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reply posted on 5-7-2006 @ 10:23 PM by ted4secrets
I just finished gathering a LOT of information on the Eye of Horus in my research of the Omnian Masonic Rite and their usage of the symbol. The Omnian Masonic Rite was a very amorphous group formed after the Revolutionary War by Masons who were disgruntled with traditional Freemasonry and felt it was just becoming a gathering of the political and business elite.

There's not a lot of info to go on but the Omnian Masonic Rite may have started with the publication of Ethan Allen's "Reason: The Only Oracle of Man" which put forth some pretty radical religious and moral viewpoints for the time. Other republican-leaning leaders like Jefferson, Madison, and Monroe also may or may not have been involved in the propagation of the movement.

Anyway ... here's some stuff on the Eye that was interesting:

In acient Egypt, the Eye of Horus was a symbol that signified royal power. The ancients believed this symbol of indestructibility would assist in rebirth, due to their beliefs about the soul. The more recent tradition of freemasonry adopted the symbol in the form of the Eye of Providence and as such it has survived to this day. The Eye of Horus (flanked by Nekhbet and Wadjet) was found under the 12th layer of bandages on Tutankhamun's mummy.

The Eye Of Horus also represented a fractional quantification system to measure parts of a whole. The entire eye measured one (1). Each of the parts of the eye measured a fraction of it. The shattering of Horus' eye into six pieces lead the Egyptians to use the Eye to calculate in form of fractions. This is because all is one. The ancient Egyptians used these six pieces to represent the six senses, and an arithmetical notation. Each series had a fractional value. The parts of the eye were divided as follows:

1/2 represents smell symbolized by the right side of the eye in a form of the nose. The pyramid text says: "Behold [the fire] rises in Abydos and it comes; I cause it to come, the Eye of Horus. It is set in order upon thy brow, O Osiris Khenti-Amenti; it is set in the shrine and rises on thy brow."

1/4 represents seeing, or the sensation of light symbolized by the pupil. The pyramid text says: "Perfect is the Eye of Horus. I have delivered the Eye of Horus, the shining one, the ornament of the Eye of Ra, the Father of the Gods."

1/8 represents thought symbolized by the eyebrow. The pyramid text says: "...the Eye of Horus hath made me holy...I will hide myself among you, O ye stars which are imperishable. My brow is the brow of Ra."

1/16 represents hearing symbolized by right side of the eye in a form of an arrow pointing towards the ear on the face. The pyramid text says: "That which has been shut fast/dead hath been opened by the command of the Eye of Horus, which hath delivered me. Established are the beauties of the forehead of Ra."

1/32 represents taste by the sprouting of the wheat or grain from the planted stalk symbolized by a curved tail. The pyramid text says: "Come, the Eye of Horus hath delivered for me my soul, my ornaments are established on the brow of Ra. Light is on the faces of those who are in the members of Osiris."

1/64 represents touch symbolized by a leg touching the ground. The pyramid text says: "I shall see the Gods and the Eye of Horus burning with fire before my eyes."

Ted4Secrets



reply posted on 8-2-2009 @ 09:21 AM by hawk123
Originally posted by ted4secrets
Anyway ... here's some stuff on the Eye that was interesting:

The Eye Of Horus also represented a fractional quantification system to measure parts of a whole. The entire eye measured one (1). Each of the parts of the eye measured a fraction of it. The shattering of Horus' eye into six pieces lead the Egyptians to use the Eye to calculate in form of fractions. This is because all is one. The ancient Egyptians used these six pieces to represent the six senses, and an arithmetical notation. Each series had a fractional value. The parts of the eye were divided as follows:

1/2 represents smell symbolized by the right side of the eye

1/4 represents seeing, or the sensation of light symbolized by the pupil.

1/8 represents thought symbolized by the eyebrow. ."

1/16 represents hearing symbolized by right side of the eye in a form of an arrow pointing towards the ear on the face.

1/32 represents taste by the sprouting of the wheat or grain ..


1/64 represents touch symbolized by a leg touching the ground.
Ted4Secrets

The ideal harmonic month is 30 days x 24 hours x 60 minutes = 432 x 100 minutes
Therefore the ideal harmonic month is linked to 432 Hertz.

The lunar month can be calculated as:
Multiply a month of 30 days by the Horus Eye series ‘2 ‘4 ‘8 ’16 ’32 ’64
and you obtain 29 ‘2 ’32 days,
or 29 days 12 hours 45 minutes = 42525 minutes

The Eye of Horus ratio is:
43200 / 42525 = 1.015873015873015873015873015873
The same as:
64 / 63 = 1.015873015873015873015873015873

The Eye of Horus ratio is therfore {64:63}
The repeating number behind the comma is the magic.
15873 x 63 = 999999


reply posted on 8-2-2009 @ 05:17 PM by JoshNorton
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Just curious, how many all-powerful gods do you suppose there are? I mean, all this about worship of false gods presupposes that there are a non-trivial number of shapeless, massless, sentient überbeings all of which, if not fully omniscient or omnipotent, are close enough by human standards. Is that what Christianity teaches? Because that's what it sounds like you're saying...

[edit on 2/8/2009 by JoshNorton]


reply posted on 9-2-2009 @ 09:44 AM by NWO secret agenda
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after all, we are here into a conspiracy furum so,

a way to investigate, is to make research, to propose a conspiracy theory
and base on reactions, make a evaluation of the possibilities.

base on your attitude, i can assume then, that i am right and freemasons
are after years of influences, from their temples, are worshiping a totaly
different God, then the one the were before they start following to wolf
disguise as a shepherd and became freemasons

the investigation as just begun...


reply posted on 9-2-2009 @ 11:36 AM by JoshNorton
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You didn't answer my question. How many gods do you think there are? I'll even make it a multiple choice question:

  1. 0
  2. 1
  3. >1
And don't feel pressured into giving an answer you'll assume I'd like. I've got atheist friends, and I've got polytheist friends, and I've got monotheist friends. I won't judge. But I don't feel like we can properly discuss this without knowing what stance you're coming from.

As to your methods of investigation, I find them lacking, by at least one important step. You wrote
a way to investigate, is to make research, to propose a conspiracy theory and base on reactions, make a evaluation of the possibilities.
The critical missing step is testing your theory. You can't just throw it out there and claim that it's right.

Freemasons are free to practice whatever religion they choose, in whatever manner is appropriate for their beliefs. I sit in lodge with Christians, Jews, Muslims, pagans, deists and, I'm sure, a number of other faiths or factions. I couldn't tell you who is what, because we don't talk about religion (or politics) in lodge. When we have an opening prayer to the Grand Architect of the Universe, we're all hearing the same words being spoken, but in our minds and hearts we're praying to the faith we're true to. A devout Christian is praying in Christ's name, a Muslim to Allah, a Jew to Jehovah, a Discordian to Eris, a Pastafarian to the Flying Spaghetti Monster... and because we're making that prayer internally, there's no squabbling over if one person is "right" or "wrong" in their beliefs. The founders of Masonry believed that there is a God as creator of all that is around us, but were wise enough to know that mankind has no way of testing if his own beliefs are correct in his own lifetime. The best we can do is practice the faith that we have, show reverence where due, and try to be good men so that when we die, if there is an afterlife, we hope we will be judged well by that creator.



reply posted on 9-2-2009 @ 12:01 PM by NWO secret agenda
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i am sorry to deceive you but my answer, would be A. 0

i know that as a freemason, you would like me to answered a leat B.
but hey... i guess i will never be a freemason like you, as i don't
worship any gods and freemasonry ask to at least beleive in god to be a
mason ( a god but who is exacly that god...Lucifer...)


reply posted on 9-2-2009 @ 12:36 PM by JoshNorton
Originally posted by NWO secret agenda
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i am sorry to deceive you but my answer, would be A. 0

i know that as a freemason, you would like me to answered a leat B.
Not disappointed at all. Like I said, I've got a number of good friends who are atheists. But in light of your own beliefs, it makes understanding your previous posts on the subject even more difficult than they already were. Or were you just trying to bait us?
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