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until finally written down around 300 yesrs later.
Originally posted by DragonsDemesne
It was a much shorter time than 300 years, but it was after Jesus' lifetime. For most of the new testament books, it was in about the first few decades after he died, I think. You could probably find reasonable dates for the best guesses when the books were written on wikipedia or something like that. I don't know of any biblical books that were known to have been written while Jesus was actually alive, though many were written by those who had lived when he did.
Originally posted by Arcane Demesne
in either case, what you have in your bible is no where near what was originally written about him.
according to the artical Paul wites the letters between 49 and 62 A.D. these are the earlist know new testament texts according to the artical. It says the gospels were writen between 65 and 95 A.D. For comaprision Jesus was crucified in 30 A.D.
Originally posted by T0by
Hi, I was having a discussion with a friend about the veracity of the bible the other day. I have read many times that there was noone actually writing things down about what jesus did as he did them at the time and it was just passed down as word for ages afterwards, until finally written down around 300 yesrs later. She said that's not true, so I was just wondering if anyone knows for sure?
Is either one true or is even that disputed too?
Originally posted by T0by
Hi, I was having a discussion with a friend about the veracity of the bible the other day. I have read many times that there was noone actually writing things down about what jesus did as he did them at the time and it was just passed down as word for ages afterwards, until finally written down around 300 yesrs later. She said that's not true, so I was just wondering if anyone knows for sure?
Is either one true or is even that disputed too?
Originally posted by Pragmatist Centrist
The vast majority of what has been said here is roughly correct. While I don't have my notes in from of me, the chronology of the New Testiment is roughly in this order
Pauls Letters to other cities and communities (Corinthians, Romans, etc)
Acts of the Apostles
Gospel of Mark
Gospel of Luke
Gospel of Matthew (the first 3 gospels were written roughly the same timeframe: 45-60AD)
Gospel of John (at about 90-95AD)
Revelation (which is said to be written by the apostle John at the end of his life: 105AD or so)
We must keep in mind that everything in the New Testiment was written for the purpose of ministry and recruitment first and history second.
Originally posted by curiousity
On what do you base your information? I'll say that if I look in 5 different accounts of what and when someone THINKS these were written, I'd find 5 different lists. Even if they agreed what they would be based on is assumptions based on someone else's writings, and on back until the mish-mash is incredible.
Your statement that what was written for the purpose of "ministry and recruitment first" is just your opinion but stated as if it were fact. And that is how the learned studies on the "order" of the books and the "content analysis" and so on are done as well, mostly opinion, a little fact, a lot of theory, a little hard research.
I'm tired of it for one.
The Bible is God-breathed, leave it at that.
Originally posted by T0by
So can i get this straight, is the bible that we read today the bible that was edited by the council of Nicea?
Are the dead sea scrolls earlier than the bible? How much do they correspond?
Originally posted by T0by
So can i get this straight, is the bible that we read today the bible that was edited by the council of Nicea?
Are the dead sea scrolls earlier than the bible? How much do they correspond?
The purpose of the council (also called a synod) was to resolve disagreements in the Church of Alexandria over the nature of Jesus in relationship to the Father; in particular, whether Jesus was of the same or of similar substance as God the Father.
Originally posted by WolfofWar
They CLAIM that the first editions were written around 60-80 C.E at the latest, but the earlier written scriptures found are at 120 C.E. at the latest, and the majority of what you read in the bible comes from heavily edited and changed editions from as late as 1400 C.E.
Don't believe all you read.
Originally posted by Arcane Demesne
Prove it.
If you can find the actual documents, from the actual EYE WTINESSES, then you might...just maybe...have something, assuming it wasn't all made up anyway.
But right now, we do not have those documents, only many many contradicting later documents.....'cuz you know as well as eveyone here, that Paul of Tarsus was the inventor of Christianity, not your Jesus.....