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NASA Gate - We Did Go To The Moon ...But The Footage Is Fake

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posted on Jul, 1 2006 @ 08:30 PM
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After watching this documentary found in this older thread I´ve decided to open a new thread, because the story is quite compelling, and really has not been discussed as such. (A very, very big thanks to Amon_Ra for finding this video!)


Here is the deal:

1) NASA did really go to the moon, but the footage shot of the astronauts on the moon was unusable due to the high temperature swings which affected the film. Both pictures and film were mostly unusable.

2) In a "what if" scenario Nixon decided just two weeks before the mission to make sure that clear photo and film material was made which could be presented to the public just in case anything should go wrong.

Huh? That´s right. They actually devised a plan to shoot the moon walks and the planting of the flag in a studio and take pictures of the planting of the American flag etc. etc. in a studio somewhere in London.

Why London? Well, it happens that my favorite director, Stanley Kubrick, was working over there shooting, and Kubrick owed the U.S. Gov. a favour for being allowed access into the situation room to shoot parts of his "Dr. Strangelove".

Stay with me!

So, they talked to Kubrick, who in the end agreed to use a skeleton crew and film two CIA operatives doing the moon acts. All under perpetual Non Disclosure Agreement ofcourse.

So far, no harm no foul right?

Aha, but when the real event took place NASA´s footage proved useless, forcing the backup footage to be used. This changed things somewhat, because now Nixon couldn´t sleep anymore worrying about a score of people knowing the footage and pictures presented to the world are not NASA´s footage, but rather mostly footage shot in a studio somewhere in London.

So forget the NDA, how do we get these people eliminated? During preparations for eliminating the entire crew and actors of the staged footage, Nixon´s advisors (Rumsfeld one of them) advise against this plan, and Nixon does not give his final OK.

Somehow, one of the operation´s operatives, a Col. Kaplan, thinks he is Col. Kurtz from "Apocalypse Now", and turns rogue, deciding to go ahead with the operation anyway.

Bottom line is, all crew that were present, including the two CIA actors, die suddenly in a short period of time.

Finally, even Kubrick, fearing for his life, retreats from the public view and never makes public appearances or give interviews anymore until the day he dies.

Some story. It would be a nice theory were it not that the following persons are on tape being interviewd, and admitting that this operation actually took place.

Rumsfeld, Kissinger, Haig, Eagleburger, Helms, Kubrick´s widow and others.

This is on film people, watch.

The depressions and refusal to give interviews by the NASA astronauts Armstrong, Aldrin and Cooper suddenly makes a lot more sense, doesn´t it?




posted on Jul, 1 2006 @ 08:35 PM
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Erm, that film was an April Fools gag. It wasn't supposed to be taken seriously. It was released on April 1st, and if you watch the outtakes you can see them all reading the scripts they were given.



posted on Jul, 1 2006 @ 08:43 PM
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Well that´s a relief. Phew. I was afraid the world was really a wicked place, but it turns out it is not. Thanks!


I wasn´t aware people like Donald Rumsfeld and Richard Helms were capable of this kind of humor. Hmmmmmmmm.

Convenient we cannot ask Stanley because he is no longer with us...



posted on Jul, 1 2006 @ 08:45 PM
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If you watch all the way to the end, you'll see him say "You told me this was a high class program!" and someone else laughing say "I thought this was a serious program!" It's pretty funny, but it gets a LOT of people to fall for it.



posted on Jul, 1 2006 @ 08:54 PM
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Yeah, I didn´t watch the credits, but you´re right. It does make you think though, a bit convenient to create this to silence those rumours... Fact & Fiction..

I find it strange that people of this stature would lend themselves to doing this, it could easily give of the wrong impression right?

I must say I love this video, even though it looks like it´s a mockup as you say.



posted on Jul, 1 2006 @ 09:02 PM
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This will be like 9/11...no matter how much proof you present that it DID happen...you will always have nay sayers. Hell there is even a group who thinks the world is really flat and we are being lied too.....
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posted on Jul, 1 2006 @ 09:09 PM
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Nah, Zaphod is right, it´s a mockumentary

I´ve been had, because I´ve never heard of this one


HOWEVER

Good old Eric Hufschmidt makes some valid remarks about this:



Why would any of those people agree to be part of a silly "mockumentary"? This especially applies to Donald Rumsfeld, who has a full-time job.

I think they are all worried that the Apollo moon hoax will be exposed, and that each of them is somehow involved in the crime (it is a crime, not a mere hoax).

Source


That was my first reaction too after finding out that it is a mockumentary.

Why cooperate?

I can only find one reason: disinformation. And where there is disinformation there is something to cover up. Ah well. Back to the drawing board on this one I guess...



posted on Jul, 1 2006 @ 09:11 PM
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Or it could be that they are all huge Kubrick fans, and did this as a "tribute" to him. Or they really DO have a sense of humor.


Dark Side Of The Moon was a mocumentary, showing how "real" documentaries, or even the news can be faked and faked well enough to fool people, even people that should know better. That's how they got Buzz Aldren and the others involved.

[edit on 7/1/2006 by Zaphod58]



posted on Jul, 1 2006 @ 09:26 PM
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I for one think Kubrick is (alas was) the best director the world has ever seen.

But, here we are, final verdict, thread is now in Skunk Works...

I knew I should have Googled for "hoax dark side of the moon" first before posting. Sometimes I´m such a puppy jumping up to the kitchen counter where a plate of prime beef is sitting... Jump - Can´t reach - Arf! - Jump - Can´t reach -Arf!



posted on Jul, 1 2006 @ 09:31 PM
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dude wtf..
at 40:15 in the movie..they have the subtitles but that's not what those guys are saying at all!..
wtf! that's bs! their speaking laos and the one in the beginning is talking about the distance the guy walked was 6 kilometers,and then the 2nd guy was saying that the guy was cutting the wood and he took the wood.

and the subtitles are totally saying other bs.

wow..bs in a video to call bs on the other subject.



posted on Jul, 1 2006 @ 09:35 PM
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I wondered about the following conversation (subtitle)

"These guys were amateurs. One of them killed himself while cleaning his gun. We´ve kept the body for the children to play with".

How could I have missed that, that´s a dead give away....




posted on Jul, 1 2006 @ 10:32 PM
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If it makes you feel better I was had too. The version I had seen did not have the entire footage or credit (It cut on a pic on Kubrick on the moon's surface)

When you watch it again (knowing its a mokumentary) you see that Rumsfield, kessinger etc. are not in the same room. They just took clips from older interviews.

Brilliant show. It shows how thing can be taken out of context and applied in support of a totally unrelated theory. (something we often do on ATS)

After seeing that, I was also "WTF? Why aren't people talking about this?"

lol



posted on Jul, 1 2006 @ 10:58 PM
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that I might have a dark mind of sorts...



Interesting when you think... What would be a good way to cover up a really Really REALLY bad cover up?

Simplicity itself! It would look a LOT like this mockumentary.



posted on Jul, 2 2006 @ 12:25 PM
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IMHO they shot a fake in case they had to abort the mission at some stage, which they didnt. You can see the Hasselblad/Zeiss optics shots on special cold resistant Kodak on enterprisemission.com. If you examine the ancient intelligence-created structures in these shots, you will understand why the fake shots are the ones mainly publicised.



posted on Jul, 2 2006 @ 02:14 PM
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Originally posted by ThomasT
enterprisemission.com. If you examine the ancient intelligence-created structures in these shots, you will understand why the fake shots are the ones mainly publicised.


That looks like an interesting site.... Can you please provide a link where those shots are exactly? Thanks.



posted on Jul, 2 2006 @ 02:40 PM
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Enterprisemission.com is great for sheer entertainment value.
Some of the things they put out on the site are just laughable. IIRC one bit of "proof" that we didn't go to the moon was another admitted fake video showing studio lights falling down during the filming.



posted on Jul, 2 2006 @ 06:39 PM
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It's the EntirepriseMission.com or Nasa's site? I get so confused which one is 'just laughable'...

What's really amusing is how the diehard Nasa supporters just won't give it up...

I believe!




posted on Jul, 2 2006 @ 08:00 PM
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I'm hardly a diehard NASA supporter when it comes to spaceflight. But enterprisemission is the third biggest joke I've seen in a long time.



posted on Jul, 2 2006 @ 11:57 PM
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If you watch the video its clear that Rumsfeld and crew are not talking about the moon landing at all, and thier responses to other questions were just cut into the film. This video is a totally fake.

-- Boat



posted on Jul, 3 2006 @ 04:31 AM
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Boatphone, it was never CBC's intent to fool anyone.


Its intent is to inform and entertain the viewer, but also to shake him up - make him aware that one should always view television with a critical eye.

www.cbc.ca...





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