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reply posted on 2-10-2008 @ 02:44 AM by LostNemesis
Has this been debunked, or anything? Just wondering,


Here is mine, if this is true..... Surely if true, no way in the world they would make it this easy to find them

Damn, I cannot post a picture to the post... But this can't be real. Guessing debunked long ago.

[edit on 2-10-2008 by LostNemesis]


reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 05:01 PM by bdswetty
reply to post by NeverSurrender




te-3-4.car1.Cleveland1.Level3.net [64.156.
ae-2-4.bar1.Cleveland1.Level3.net [4.69.13
ae-6-6.ebr1.Washington1.Level3.net [4.69.1
ae-91-91.csw4.Washington1.Level3.net [4.692]
ae-4-99.edge1.Washington3.Level3.net [4.68]
att-level3-oc192.Washington1.Level3.net [4.154]
tbr1.wswdc.ip.att.net [12.123.8.114]
r1.wswdc.ip.att.net [12.122.16.49]
ar1.wswdc.ip.att.net [12.123.8.65]


Cleveland1.Level3?
Washington1.Level3?
And there's the ATT... yay!?


reply posted on 15-2-2012 @ 02:09 PM by Echo3Foxtrot
If you're trying to find out if the NSA is tracking your IP traffic, a trace route will not tell you anything. Only thing the trace route will tell you is what places your data traffic flows through to get to the IP provided. As a network guy I used the tracert command to see if my network was connected to the site that was providing us services. Let me give an example as best I can.

Service site: 192.168.1.1
My laptop: 192.168.1.6
Router to physical firewall bottom router: 192.168.1.5
Physical firewall bottom router: 192.168.1.4
Physical firewall top router: 192.168.1.3
Satellite sending/receiving from service site: 192.168.1.2

Now if I trace from the laptop to the service site it will ping all the stops long the way. If I am unable to get through one of the routers for whatever reason, it will time out and I will not be able to reach my destination ping.

If I tracert from 192.168.1.6 and get hits from .5 .4 but I timeout at .3, that means that my data is not routing out.

In laymen terms, I'm sending a letter with return services requested and it has to hit certain checkpoints. I send a letter from San Diego asking New York to send a response. The letter goes from SD to Phoenix. Phoenix checks it, knows the route to the next point which is Dallas and sends it off. Dallas receives it and knows to send it to Nashville and sends it off. Nashville gets the letter but doesn't know where to send it. So it kicks it back to sender. Now, if Nashville knew to send it to Philadelphia en route to New York, it would send it off. Now, Philly receives the letter and knows it's addressed to New York and where to send it, so off it goes. New York receives the letter, gets the message for return services and sends their letter to Philly. Philly knows it's going to Nashville, who in turn sends it to Dallas. Dallas sends it to Phoenix and Phoenix passes it on to San Diego. San Diego has received the returned correspondence with marks saying it hit these cities at this time and was passed on.

Hopefully that makes sense. I guess if anything, you would know what ip's your ip travels through to get to it's destination. But it wont tell you much more. I don't know what this "magic string" is. Sounds more like a wild speculation to me. If the NSA was watching your IP traffic, I'm pretty sure they would not allow themselves to be pinged by a simple trace route.
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