Check if NSA warrantless surveillance is looking at your IP traffic

I don't know when this NSA snooping back room supposedly was invoked, but it might be of inerest that this IP in question, sffca.ip.att.net (12.123.13.186), shows in network logs (posted online) as far back as year 2000.

Was this surveilance happening then, or is this a bogus lead using an IP that has little use on the net?

NN

That's what I get when I input a site that I've been using a proxy for, I would refer it, but it blocks ads as well, and I think the ATS staff would frown on that.
.....................................
I haven't been using the proxy with ATS though



Seems I'm OK, I guess.

I did a trace route to uruklink.net where Saddam Hussein had his personal email address back then, because it's obvious the U.S. gov would want to monitor that. AT&T did not show up, but the NSA most likely tapped the Level3's switches as well.


ICMP packets are blocked at newskies.net so my trace route can't go any further. I guess many intel agencies are snooping on the wires in that part of the world. If you wanna play James Bond just say "bomb" then israeli Mossad, chinese PIAC, and russian FSB will all raid your home. *Cue the Benny Hill music*

Does this mean you are being raided now? lol

BENNY !!!!!

NN

Oh I'm sure if you try to link to any major Islamic Middle East URL's the chances of you being monitored increase dramatically.

If you e-mail the White House asking for Bush to step down for Treason and Corruption you'll probably also get a new found following even if your e-mail is completely within the law and does not promote the slightest act of violence.

Dear Mr. Bush,

I think you're doing a wonderful job of leading our country
into the ground.
I don't think most American's appreciate your effort
to undermine our U.S. Constitution and The Bill of Rights.
I don't see why everyone is so upset with your handling of the national debt.
You won't have to pay back any of it yourself, so what' the big deal?








[edit on 2-7-2006 by FallenFromTheTree]

Hi, I'm in the UK and I get the following, I don't see ATT anywhere, so does this mean my packets are not being copied by AT&T?

Tracing route to abovetopsecret.com [74.52.37.180]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 11 ms 12 ms 17 ms 217.47.130.186
2 13 ms 14 ms 12 ms 217.47.130.161
3 11 ms 13 ms 12 ms 217.41.175.29
4 13 ms 13 ms 13 ms 217.41.175.150
5 12 ms 12 ms 11 ms 217.41.175.54
6 12 ms 12 ms 11 ms 217.47.74.98
7 13 ms 14 ms 11 ms core1-pos4-0.bletchley.ukcore.bt.net [194.72.31.
113]
8 14 ms 14 ms 14 ms core1-pch2.ilford.ukcore.bt.net [62.6.204.129]
9 15 ms 15 ms 14 ms core2-pos7-3.ilford.ukcore.bt.net [194.72.20.2]

10 13 ms 13 ms 14 ms core2-pos9-0-0.telehouse.ukcore.bt.net [194.74.6
5.125]
11 14 ms 16 ms 14 ms ge9-1.mpr2.lhr1.uk.above.net [208.185.156.217]
12 15 ms 14 ms 15 ms so-4-1-0.cr2.lhr3.uk.above.net [208.185.156.2]
13 13 ms 16 ms 15 ms 64.125.27.233.available.above.net [64.125.27.233
]
14 89 ms 87 ms 87 ms so-7-0-0.cr2.dca2.us.above.net [64.125.27.165]
15 117 ms 138 ms 116 ms so-6-0-0.cr2.dfw2.us.above.net [64.125.28.70]
16 115 ms 115 ms 119 ms 216.200.6.237.theplanet.com [216.200.6.237]
17 113 ms 114 ms 144 ms vl31.dsr01.dllstx3.theplanet.com [70.85.127.29]

18 120 ms 114 ms 119 ms vl22.dsr02.dllstx2.theplanet.com [70.85.127.76]

19 116 ms 118 ms 115 ms vl1.car02.dllstx6.theplanet.com [12.96.160.23]
20 115 ms 115 ms 118 ms b4.25.344a.static.theplanet.com [74.52.37.180]

Trace complete.


I would bet that BT (British Telecom) is definatly watching my data. I have a friend of a friend who works for them, he recons they can piggyback onto an IP address and copy all the data to observe which sites customers are viewing, without actually going there themselves. Which I would think, means they can 'see' data such as passwords, intenet banking details and the like. This scares the bejesus out of me!!!

Hmm... does anyone know if me using America Online (AOL) will make any difference?

Yes, it means you are not on the real Internet ........ lmdao.

Seriously tho, I just don't put too much stock into this supposed check. Like someone stated already - it's too easy. Not too mention what I brought forward, that this IP has been in use for at least 6 years.

Imo, I tag this as a rumor.

NN

Yeah you have a point, it really is too easy. And yes, AOL is pathetic

running every one of those ip's through dnsstuff.com shows up something odd (use the 'new! ip information' search). every single ip states 'Reverse DNS authenticity: [Could be forged: hostname ar2-a3120s6.wswdc.ip.att.net. does not exist]'

it would be interesting if some customer were to email the isp and ask them for an explanation of what this means

i get two level 3s to Washington...does that mean anything?

Edit: Nevermind *sheepish

[edit on 3-7-2006 by SilentLucidity]

Want to point out something I believe most are missing. You are tracing an ATT IP, so naturally, several ATT hops are going to be in that trace.

Pinging an ATT address to see if a certain ATT address is in the results to be the deciding factor of weather or not the governmenet is watching you, is kinda like backhanding a dog on the face to see if it will bite.

Even if it is not an ATT address you ping, being many of the nations routers for the net run via ATT, they most likely WILL be in many trace results.

Don't read into what is only taken from a blog, and no substantial referrences can be found (meaning, mainstream or mainstream tech news; put that IP in Google, not much comes back, and then only from smaller sites, and most of those sites simply referrencing the original blog post).

NN

Ok I'm being watched although no surprise there...

1,2, 15-30 timed out

7&8 were level 3

10&11 went to ip.att.net

This is when I did tracert nsa.gov...


Now what the hell does the NSA want to do with my internet records? What can they do with them? Nothing. So what is the deal with them spying on us...

Hey, this thread looks very familiar. I wonder why?

i did the command but all i got were the IPs, i didnt get those strings

tracert myspace.com

1 12 ms 13 ms 19 ms 73.76.0.1
2 13 ms * 12 ms 68.87.212.189
3 11 ms 12 ms 12 ms 68.87.212.9
4 14 ms 15 ms 13 ms 12.117.240.9
5 24 ms 24 ms 25 ms 12.123.12.49
6 28 ms 24 ms 25 ms 12.122.10.26
7 23 ms 22 ms 23 ms 12.123.222.65
8 23 ms 22 ms 23 ms 12.118.42.26
9 23 ms 23 ms 23 ms 68.142.106.74
10 23 ms 24 ms 23 ms 204.16.35.137
11 23 ms 34 ms 31 ms 204.16.35.146
12 24 ms 23 ms 24 ms 63.208.226.41

tracert abovetopsecret.com

1 12 ms 12 ms 12 ms 73.76.0.1
2 11 ms 11 ms 12 ms 68.87.212.193
3 12 ms 26 ms 11 ms 68.87.212.17
4 11 ms 12 ms 12 ms 68.87.212.9
5 33 ms 15 ms 14 ms 12.117.240.9
6 52 ms 51 ms 49 ms 12.123.12.49
7 54 ms 56 ms 57 ms 12.122.10.26
8 53 ms 53 ms 52 ms 12.122.10.49
9 55 ms 55 ms 54 ms 12.123.16.161
10 63 ms 53 ms 51 ms 12.119.136.18
11 54 ms 56 ms 52 ms 70.85.127.62
12 55 ms 52 ms 52 ms 70.85.127.67
13 58 ms 55 ms 55 ms 12.96.160.55
14 56 ms 58 ms 56 ms 74.52.37.180

Ok so most of us are being watch so how the hell get it to stop please some one find out how

I live on Long Island, New York.
I called my computer Jesus inside of the workgroup, God, Inc. just for #s and giggles. Inside joke, really.


ping nsa.gov
Pinging nsa.gov [12.110.110.204] with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

I'm guessing they block ping requests.


tracert nsa.gov
Tracing route to nsa.gov [12.110.110.204]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 7 ms 5 ms 5 ms 10.14.0.1
3 7 ms 5 ms 5 ms dstswr2-Vlan2.rh.frptny.cv.net [167.206.32.162]

4 7 ms 5 ms 5 ms r2-ge0-1-2.mhe.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.32.133]
5 8 ms 5 ms 5 ms r2-srp9-0.wan.hcvlny.cv.net [65.19.104.211]
6 7 ms 8 ms 7 ms r2-srp0-1.in.nycmny83.cv.net [65.19.96.70]
7 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms so-2-0-0.gar2.NewYork1.Level3.net [167.206.8.62]

8 8 ms 8 ms 7 ms ae-13-51.car3.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.68.97.18]
9 8 ms 7 ms 7 ms 192.205.33.93
10 8 ms 10 ms 9 ms tbr2-p032301.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.123.3.110]
11 8 ms 7 ms 7 ms gbr5-p40.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.122.11.26]
12 8 ms 7 ms 7 ms 12.123.214.57
13 17 ms 18 ms 18 ms 12.126.221.90
14 20 ms 18 ms 19 ms 12.110.110.132
15 * * * Request timed out.
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * * * Request timed out.
27 * * * Request timed out.
28 * * * Request timed out.
29 * * * Request timed out.
30 * * * Request timed out.

Trace complete.

[edit on 3-7-2006 by Johnmike]

[edit on 3-7-2006 by Johnmike]

pathping nsa.gov
Tracing route to nsa.gov [12.110.110.204]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
0 JESUS [192.168.1.100]
1 192.168.1.1
2 10.14.0.1
3 dstswr2-Vlan2.rh.frptny.cv.net [167.206.32.162]
4 r2-ge0-1-2.mhe.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.32.133]
5 r2-srp9-0.wan.hcvlny.cv.net [65.19.104.211]
6 r2-srp0-1.in.nycmny83.cv.net [65.19.96.70]
7 so-2-0-0.gar2.NewYork1.Level3.net [167.206.8.62]
8 ae-23-56.car3.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.68.97.178]
9 192.205.33.93
10 tbr2-p032301.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.123.3.110]
11 gbr5-p40.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.122.11.26]
12 12.123.214.57
13 12.126.221.94
14 12.110.110.132
15 * * *
Computing statistics for 375 seconds...
Source to Here This Node/Link
Hop RTT Lost/Sent = Pct Lost/Sent = Pct Address
0 JESUS [192.168.1.100]
0/ 100 = 0% |
1 0ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 192.168.1.1
0/ 100 = 0% |
2 6ms 97/ 100 = 97% 97/ 100 = 97% 10.14.0.1
0/ 100 = 0% |
3 6ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% dstswr2-Vlan2.rh.frptny.cv.net [16
7.206.32.162]
0/ 100 = 0% |
4 --- 100/ 100 =100% 100/ 100 =100% r2-ge0-1-2.mhe.hcvlny.cv.net [167.
206.32.133]
0/ 100 = 0% |
5 --- 100/ 100 =100% 100/ 100 =100% r2-srp9-0.wan.hcvlny.cv.net [65.19
.104.211]
0/ 100 = 0% |
6 --- 100/ 100 =100% 100/ 100 =100% r2-srp0-1.in.nycmny83.cv.net [65.1
9.96.70]
0/ 100 = 0% |
7 10ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% so-2-0-0.gar2.NewYork1.Level3.net
[167.206.8.62]
0/ 100 = 0% |
8 10ms 3/ 100 = 3% 3/ 100 = 3% ae-23-56.car3.NewYork1.Level3.net
[4.68.97.178]
0/ 100 = 0% |
9 8ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 192.205.33.93
0/ 100 = 0% |
10 --- 100/ 100 =100% 100/ 100 =100% tbr2-p032301.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.
123.3.110]
0/ 100 = 0% |
11 --- 100/ 100 =100% 100/ 100 =100% gbr5-p40.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.122.
11.26]
0/ 100 = 0% |
12 --- 100/ 100 =100% 100/ 100 =100% 12.123.214.57
0/ 100 = 0% |
13 21ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 12.126.221.94
0/ 100 = 0% |
14 21ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 12.110.110.132
100/ 100 =100% |
15 --- 100/ 100 =100% 0/ 100 = 0% JESUS [0.0.0.0]

Trace complete.

Here's mine.

What does it all mean?

Traceroute has started ...

traceroute to nsa.gov (12.110.110.204), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 home (192.168.1.202) 16.577 ms 5.277 ms 2.400 ms
2 bras4-l0.skt2ca.sbcglobal.net (151.164.187.6) 22.391 ms 25.115 ms 19.169 ms
3 dist2-vlan50.skt2ca.sbcglobal.net (68.120.211.67) 18.220 ms 18.462 ms 18.586 ms
4 bb2-g1-3-0.skt2ca.sbcglobal.net (68.120.211.228) 22.544 ms 19.028 ms 16.587 ms
5 bb1-p10-2.crscca.sbcglobal.net (151.164.191.241) 22.490 ms 21.197 ms 19.680 ms
6 ex2-p5-0.eqsjca.sbcglobal.net (151.164.41.109) 24.048 ms 53.957 ms 20.311 ms
7 ex1-p9-0.eqsjca.sbcglobal.net (151.164.191.201) 110.125 ms 20.961 ms 22.502 ms
8 12.122.79.97 (12.122.79.97) 21.131 ms 21.457 ms 21.410 ms
9 tbr2034001.sffca.ip.att.net (12.122.85.138) 92.707 ms 87.216 ms 91.189 ms
10 tbr1-cl2.sl9mo.ip.att.net (12.122.10.41) 84.648 ms 87.526 ms 83.401 ms
11 tbr1-cl4.wswdc.ip.att.net (12.122.10.29) 84.563 ms 88.359 ms 84.477 ms
12 ar2-a3120s6.wswdc.ip.att.net (12.123.8.65) 85.191 ms 84.022 ms 81.612 ms
13 12.127.209.218 (12.127.209.218) 92.715 ms 90.656 ms 92.980 ms
14 12.110.110.131 (12.110.110.131) 104.321 ms 89.673 ms 88.865 ms
15 * * *
16 * * *
17 * * *
18 * * *
19 * * *
20 * * *
21 * * *
22 * * *
23 * * *

Oh yeah, oh yeah, I'm safe, I'm safe.





Now I'll just slink away and re-commence my highly illegal internet activities knowing that the NSA doesn't have a clue what I'm doing.

Why get so worried if AT&T is funneling your data to the NSA? I don't really care what they think of me. It's not like I'm downloading weapons schematics and the White Houses's blueprint.