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NYT Retaliates against Cheney and Rumsfeld

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posted on Jul, 1 2006 @ 09:29 AM
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It would appear that the NYT is retaliating for the recent comments made by members of the house and senate that perhaps they should be prosecuted for treason for publishing full details as to how the US is tracking the money of suspected terrorists.



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Beware of travel feature stories posing as invitations to terror.

"The New York Times points cranks, radicals, al-Qaida operatives and would-be assassins to the summer homes of [V.P. Dick] Cheney and [Defense Secretary Donald] Rumsfeld" writes FrontPage Magazine's David Horowitz, who sees the June 30 Times feature article as an apparent retaliation for administration "criticism of the Times' disclosure of classified intelligence to America's enemies."

In the "Escapes" section of the June 30 edition, the N.Y. Times printed huge color photos of the vacation residences of Cheney and Rumsfeld, "identifying the small Maryland town where they live, showing their front driveways and, in Rumsfeld's case, actually pointing out the hidden security camera in case any hostile intruders should get careless," Horowitz writes.

Times Travel section writer Peter Kilborn even makes sure enemies of the two men will know such details as where Mrs. Rumsfeld shops in the eastern shore town of St. Michaels, Md. where the two administration officials have weekend retreats.


Linda Spillers for The New York Times
There is a lens in the birdhouse at the driveway of Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld's home at St. Michaels, Md.


This kind of reporting is totally uncalled for, it is like giving a road map to terrorist organizations around the world as to where they can find and attack either Cheney or Rumsfeld's family. :shk:

Edited spelling


[edit on 7/1/2006 by shots]




posted on Jul, 1 2006 @ 09:44 AM
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if you think those two goons are that important. you can go down and stand watch.
myself, I would prefer to watch them on "the lifestyles of the rich and famouse" oh wait, they are not supposed to be rich and famouse they are politians. I wonde what they did to catch this kind of attention



posted on Jul, 1 2006 @ 09:58 AM
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And thank you for doing your part by spreading the information on the internet. According to your logic you should also be tried as an accessory after the fact. Welcome to the brave new world of the moron's logic.


BTW you spelled both their names wrong.
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posted on Jul, 1 2006 @ 10:08 AM
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This is all public knowledge anyways.

Although, now those who didn't care to do the research, or didn't read the NY Time's article, can now find it on NewsMax and in your post.


edit:
Gools beat me to it.




[edit on 7/1/06 by redmage]



posted on Jul, 1 2006 @ 10:13 AM
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Originally posted by Gools
According to your logic you should also be tried as an accessory after the fact.

BTW you spelled both their names wrong.
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No because it was already out there thanks to the Times and several others.

Thks for the heads up on the typos they have been fixed



posted on Jul, 1 2006 @ 10:29 AM
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Again, It was "out there" before the times article, but I'm sure that there will be an army of "Right Wing Outrage" blogs pointing "them" in the right direction now as well.

Oh the irony. :shk:

Kinda like the admin. stating that they were tracking the finances of suspected terrorists and then feigning outrage when the Times had the audacity to print a story about it years later.



[edit on 7/1/06 by redmage]



posted on Jul, 1 2006 @ 01:49 PM
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Gools, Red, you beat me to it.

Shots, you do know you are now pointing anyone who reads your post to their houses right? You are an evil terrorist gay black scienctist liberal to!!!!!

See how stupid that sounds? How is reporting public knowledge a bad thing? What's next, a Yankee fan wanting to burn the NYT building to the ground because they reported the Score of the last game of the World Series where the Red Sox beat them? It was already known but then NYT had the kahonas(sp?) to report it!



posted on Jul, 1 2006 @ 02:13 PM
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Two can play this game. Someone should publish the name, address, telephone numbers, financial data, shoe size, family details, and anything else about the members of the NYT management and every one of their reporters.



posted on Jul, 1 2006 @ 03:10 PM
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Im sure there will be loud cries of foul echoing from the fox news station....

but, my only question is....

our servicemen's personal information being published online, their wives and family members getting deaththreats?? why haven't I heard anything about that one.

unless of course, it was the foulups of our own government that caused the info from being leaked out to begin with.....

fox can't say anything negative about the gov't....then they'd be traitors also.



posted on Jul, 1 2006 @ 03:21 PM
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Originally posted by jsobecky
Two can play this game. Someone should publish the name, address, telephone numbers, financial data, shoe size, family details, and anything else about the members of the NYT management and every one of their reporters.


Yeah but the New York Times hasn't bombed and killed 50,000 people in a foreign nation, nor has it taken billions of tax payer dollars and handed it off to their buddies who serve our troops filthy water and bacteria infested food.

So who cares where NYT people live, really?

Its not like Cheney and Rumsfield vacation alone and are ever vulnerable, our tax dollars pay out millions to Secret Service to cover their old saggy rear ends. The people of the nation should be so well protected, but read any newspaper or police blotter , anywhere, anyday and its obvious Americans aren't protected at all, and with these traitors in office neither is the Constituition.




[edit on 1-7-2006 by Legalizer]



posted on Jul, 1 2006 @ 03:33 PM
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Originally posted by jsobecky
Two can play this game. Someone should publish the name, address, telephone numbers, financial data, shoe size, family details, and anything else about the members of the NYT management and every one of their reporters.


Don't you find a large difference between people who are servants of the people as part of the administration, and others who are private citizens with their business? Give me a break! Any of this info could be found very easily if people wanted to, including the Names/Numbers of the New York Times people.

I personally led a campaign in my area of the city to pass up the idiotic customer service people that take calls at the electric company. Through very simplistic research, I was able to get the Board of Director's names straight from their website, and put them each through the whitepages to find their information. It isn't a hard thing to do, really.

We all know where Camp David is, don't we? We all know where Crawford, Texas is, don't we? What really is the difference? We pay (and yes, as taxpayers, it is us) for the Secret Service to protect these grumpy old men! Suggesting this, is like suggesting that every person who has ever reported that Bush has a vacation spot in Crawford should be thrown in jail!

I really find this insanely entertaining. Just the idea! A birdhouse with a camera in it! I hope they had a warrant to perform domestic spying on the birds that live behind it!!



posted on Jul, 1 2006 @ 03:57 PM
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FOX News has alerted the terrorists to the number of people who will be traveling over the July 4th weeknd!



The roads and airports will likely be pretty crowded this weekend. AAA over 40 million people will travel over the Independence Day weekend. That's a record.


How dare they print this information that plays right into the terrorists' hands! I won't be surprised if FOX News' blatant message to the terrorists showing how vulnerable the travelers are costs the lives of many of these American travelers this year. :shk:

FOX News should be charged with treason, in my opinion...

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posted on Jul, 1 2006 @ 04:43 PM
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Originally posted by jsobecky
Two can play this game. Someone should publish the name, address, telephone numbers, financial data, shoe size, family details, and anything else about the members of the NYT management and every one of their reporters.


I don't think that terrorist would care about these people BUT there may be one group in America that could put this info to work.



posted on Jul, 1 2006 @ 05:46 PM
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Originally posted by Legalizer

Originally posted by jsobecky
Two can play this game. Someone should publish the name, address, telephone numbers, financial data, shoe size, family details, and anything else about the members of the NYT management and every one of their reporters.


Yeah but the New York Times hasn't bombed and killed 50,000 people in a foreign nation, nor has it taken billions of tax payer dollars and handed it off to their buddies who serve our troops filthy water and bacteria infested food.


Oh, so that's the criteria, is it? Thanks for laying the cards on the table.

Well, why not just show a picture of the Pentagon, instead of intruding upon their personal lives? I mean, that's where Rumsfeld works, isn't it? Why drag his family and neighbors into this?

And here all the time I thought this was just a case of petty mean-spiritedness by the NYT. Silly me.



The people of the nation should be so well protected, but read any newspaper or police blotter , anywhere, anyday and its obvious Americans aren't protected at all,


Guess what? State and local gov'ts are under no obligation to keep us safe. And that includes the police.


and with these traitors in office neither is the Constituition.


You're pretty brave with the words, sitting there behind your keyboard, aren't you? Able to call the Secretary of Defense a traitor. Wow, I'm impressed.



posted on Jul, 1 2006 @ 06:33 PM
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Privacy Rights



Public figures have a limited claim to a right of privacy. Past and present government officials, political candidates, entertainers and sports figures are generally considered to be public figures. They are said to have exposed themselves to scrutiny voluntarily and to have waived their right of privacy, at least in matters that might have an impact on their ability to perform their public duties.


What about these?:

Al Gore's Farm





Former Vice President of the United States and former U.S. Senator Al Gore has a farm just outside Carthage, Tennessee. To see the farm from the road, just follow these directions:


Colin Powell's Home





Secretary of State Colin Powell leaves his home in McLean, Va, on his way to Pakistan.


Does anyone actually have a link to the NY Times story? I'd like to see if NewsMax is perhaps stretching this 'retaliation' angle a little...

Edit: Here it is

Of course there will be people watching the NY Times like hawks to see what articles they can use to indicate that they're supporting terrorism. And unfortunately, people are non-critical enough to just fall for it. It's another step to take away the Freedom of the Press.

Thanks to the Bush supporters who will lead this movement against the NY Times, and any other papers in the future that will paint this administration in a less than favorable light. Soon all the papers will only speak of what a great president he is and everybody will be happy.



[edit on 1-7-2006 by Benevolent Heretic]



posted on Jul, 1 2006 @ 07:46 PM
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You're being overdramatic. There will always be a debate between those who don't believe the public has a right to know about every classified document that a newspaper obtains, and those who call it censorship.

If the issue of national security comes up, then it will be downplayed as a tactic used by the administration to kep the populace intimidated. Of course, since we will never hear of the exact consequences of divulging sensitive data, because of national security issues, it's a no win situation.

Those who advocate caution in releasing classified data will always be accused of wanting to suppress the press, and those who advocate releasing everything are incorrectly called "the true and only patriots".



posted on Jul, 1 2006 @ 08:02 PM
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Fun With Dick And Donald

Whatever the impetus for the features may actually be, it seems to me the timing makes for one hell of a coincidence.



posted on Jul, 1 2006 @ 10:23 PM
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Yeah, Majic, I don't think it's a coincidence, either. I think the NY Times was attacked and they're playing the game and aretaliating. Can't say as I blame them, though. They're not doing anything illegal or wrong, but they're throwing their weight around.

And jsobecky, are you saying I'm being over dramatic??? Did you check out the original post?



This kind of reporting is ... like giving a road map to terrorist organizations around the world as to where they can find and attack either Cheney or Rumsfeld's family.






Those who advocate caution in releasing classified data will always be accused of wanting to suppress the press, and those who advocate releasing everything are incorrectly called "the true and only patriots".


There are those in-between, you know. Just because a person believes in Freedom of the press, doesn't mean they want "Everything" released. Once again... There's a gray.



posted on Jul, 2 2006 @ 12:34 AM
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Sign Of The Times


Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Yeah, Majic, I don't think it's a coincidence, either. I think the NY Times was attacked and they're playing the game and aretaliating. Can't say as I blame them, though. They're not doing anything illegal or wrong, but they're throwing their weight around.

Of course, it really may just be an innocent coincidence. Let's assume it is.

But if it weren't, and this was intentional, I find the message rather disturbing.

"We know where you live."

If that's the message they're trying to send, I think a different message would be more effective.

But let's assume it's just a coincidence.



posted on Jul, 2 2006 @ 01:47 AM
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Sensationalism to the NewsMax

This is such a non-issue it's a disgrace.


actually pointing out the hidden security camera in case any hostile intruders should get careless


Come on, if anyone actually thinks that oversized lens, in the birdhouse, is the pinnacle of the home's security system then they deserve whatever the S.S. does to them.


If anything, they (the NYT) are helping these two men by lulling "the enemy" into a false sense of ease/security to make "would be attackers" easier to catch.


makes sure enemies of the two men will know such details as where Mrs. Rumsfeld shops


Really, it's a one street town.

It's not like there's a lot of options, or competition, on Talbot St., when that's your only choice for local shopping.

I've got an idea, lets prosecute Bush for treason!

Really, he actually invited the press onto his property, at the Crawford Ranch, for photo ops and reporting.

He has also taken them along the route of his morning jog.

The actual route he uses!


He may as well be handing out free sniper rifles along the way.


If that doesn't "aid and comfort" our "enemies", nothing will.

I know I've heard him mention the Kennebunkport estate, on Walker's Point, and the Jupiter Island estate, in FL..

When will all his treasonous maddness end!

That's it, I'm converted, lets "hang" all the treasonous bastards!!!


This is all just a political game, and a non-story, to distract the people and keep us occupied. :shk:

The only story I see here is; a possible preemptive strike on the media before an actual story hits.

*hands out peanuts for people to give to the white elephant*

[edit on 7/2/06 by redmage]



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