Originally posted by ThomasT
Maybe the guys who come on and say we are all whacko disbelieving the official line, would like to read my commentary and respond to any one of the
points raised. Dont attack me, I am only the messenger.
This is like a runon montage of conspiracy cliches.
You make an assumption that the guy who failed to pass the test to rent a cessna was completly incapable of flying a plane all together. That's
because this is all sites like prison planet will tell you. They will show you pieces of the interviews but leave the more important information out
conveniently. What they won't tell you is that the hijacker had trouble landing (only) and the instructer had to help him land, hence failing the
test. Tell me. Why is it those conspiracy sites leave that out?
Their names were on the passenger lists, and there were recepits and boarding passers and all other records of them being on the flights. The names
were removed from the passenger lists in press releases due to complaints by the famillies who were offended by seeing their loved ones listed along
side the hijackers. They were also captured on video camera. But more importantly this complain uses the assumption that every person who enters an
airport or boards a plane is video taped. Would you say that there is video records of every person who flies? Very doubtful if even a small
They were able to subdue the passengers because the passengers were under the impression that they had a bomb. And at the time the notion of using a
plane as a missle was not widly known. So the standard procedure was to obey hijackers so that they could land the plane and negotiate a release.
engaging the hijackers risked the loss of human life while obeying increased chances of survival. Only by the last plane did passengers learn what was
going on and hence they DID revolt then.
The issue with being detected by RADAR was because they turned off transponders. So normally it would not have been an issue tracking them. But
because of the lack of transponders they had to switch to conventional RADAR which doesn't have the same coverage.
he didn't plan anything. He was unable to locate his target and therefore fixed on the Pentagon since it was easily visible. This of course meant
having to turn around to hit the target. Nothing odd there. You make an assumption that the plan flew at a constant speed of 500mph at all times. The
plane didn't skim across the lawn it hit the lawn just before the building and it knocked over light poles since it was too high to hit cars. 1000's
of eyewitnesses watched it happen.
Much of your description is just imagination trying to make an ordinary collision of a plane intoa building seem like some unplausible event. It also
wasn't a 10ft hole, it was much much bigger. you are mistaking it with the exit hole at the end created by the nose landing gear.
There were engines and the tail remaining. However the wings liquified as to be expected due to sheer speed and that they are filled with fuel. The
body acts like a bullet since all of its force is at one point whereas the wings have the force distributed across them and can't penetrate the
concrete. it's simply physics really and makec complete sense. Some people think it should be like a cartoon that makes a punchout the exact shape of
the plane. But that only works in cartoons. There are however wing marks on the building and damage from the engines (not to mention the engines
Not all bodies were identified, but most were. But again you are making assumptions that every inch of everything was burning at 1000 degrees. In an
impact pieces break up and go in every direction. Some get burned, some dont. Some end up inside, some end up outside. like with all explosions it's
completely random. And with DNA testing not much is needed to make a match. You can see documentaries on TV where they go into great detail and step
by step as to how they did the testing.
The airplane was not vaporized by any means and no one except conspiracy sites have claimed so. What amazes me is that people can make such a claim
despite the popularity of all the pictures of the scene and remains going around.
And the classic cop out of saying Bin laden was some unable guy in a cave. He wasn't in a cave until the US started chasing him. Before that he was
in extensive terror training camps with the complete support of the Taliban. He was also very rich and well funded. he also did not act alone but had
a world wide network working twards this goal that took many many years to plan out and required years of training and investigating. Finding the best
flight times, the best seats, the best routes. Everything down to the finest detail. Saying it was some old guy in a cave is simply irresponsible
No there wasn't just such a hijacking exercise going on. There were about 5 different completely unrelated exercises going on. What the conspiracy
sites do is take the highlights of each of them so it sounds like one big exercise that matches 9/11. Nothing could be further from the truth.
The FAA tapes were not detroyed and they have been played on PBS many times. Transcripts of them can be found online. I would like to see a source
showing there are 84 cameras on the Pentagon. Even if there were they would likely all be inside which would be completely useless. But of course the
1000s of witnesses mean nothing to you? Perhaps they were all coincidentally halucinating?
So basically it was something other than flight 77. But they somehow at the same time did blow up flight 77 and places all the body parts and plane
parts, including personal items of the victoms and hijackers at the scene while no one was looking. And at the same time they sprayed drugs in the air
so that all the morning commuters stuck in traffic watching would all imagine a plane hitting the building. They also likely used some new alien
technology to get the plane parts and body parts to the scene in time since they diverted it to some other airport. Am i spot on?
What I like about this forum is that it is open and open inded. unlike other sites people listen to both sides and discuss in an adult manner. I think
the OP should be banned for wanting to impose his or her views on everyone as other web sites do. Simply trying to win an argument by shutting up
those who disagree is something Nazi germany would do.