Great to see my original link generating so much debate -- my first post too. Will see if I can scout out some more hidden gems.

For what it's worth, I believe alien civilizations have been monitoring the earth since we were tadpoles, but waited till we could at least communicate before making themselves known in the past, hence the pyramids, ancient carvings and so on.

The present-day signals? Could be from a civilization somewhere, but probably at our level of development as -- some have already mentioned this -- SETI seems a very primitive way to communicate by pinging a large metal dish from the other side of the galaxy!

I'm more inclined to believe that messages are all around us, have been for years, in the form of crop circles, orb displays, the shutting down of nukes (on occasion), planetary probes suddenly disappearing, and so on.

Subtle stuff, but persuasive... not a few "beep beeeep beeps" from space.

Chaz.

So... how is it? Reading some posts, now Steven Greer is a von Daniken-class? Then I wanna now where the "serius researchers" are!

you are right chaz, some ancient monuments and stuff are also important to take as messages. by the way, from what I know, the pyramids were built to stabilize the earth due to the phase lags of the earth axis. From them they were needed as a condenser of energy.

" the pyramids were built to stabilize the earth due to the phase lags of the earth axis. From them they were needed as a condenser of energy."

From what I know actually looking at the glyphs from the pyramids no aliens constructed the pyraminds because the glyphs show the egyptians doing so with ancient tools etc. pyramids ar just tombs and monuments to the pharoes nothing more.

Originally posted by ZoooMer

Hey, you got my vote for the Way Above - great post, suggest everyone check out the links SKMDC1 posted in the above post.

I think you have a point sir, because if there ever is going to be public dislosure, this is probably very similar to how it woud go down. Interesting connections.

Who would be the "official" embassadors to extraterrestrials ?
Who would be the public frontend for all news related to the alien contact ?

First guess would be SETI & other powerful icons, like of course - Bill Gates.

Second guess would be NASA.



My thoughts are that SETI was created for just this very purpose. To serve as a smokescreen for the whole alien situation until the right time for the "right people" to carress this issue to the world, and in just the way they want it to unfold. For those of us who have known it all along, it will be nice to see official contact, but I can't help but fear that corrupted politics & media will turn this into a tool for a shadowy agenda.

Thanks ZooMer! I don't really have much experience in the UFO Conspiracy world, but it seems that most who do get so distracted by silliness like "The Aviary" and whatnot that they sometimes miss the clues that are in the mainstream press. The links I posted were really just a quick rundown over the past 2 weeks, picking out the "interesting" articles, and then attempting to connect them. I was hoping that with the brilliant people here at ATS that someone may take one of those strands and run with it. Oh well, I'm keeping an eye on things myself. So, if I start connecting any dots, I'll post them.

As for your thoughts on alien contact/disclosure. I couldn't agree more. The corrupted politicians and the "zazz" chasing media are the most ill-equiped groups on the planet for dealing with the most important moment in the history of mankind. I guess part of me hopes that someone like Bill Gates or SETI will take the lead and act as peaceful ambassadors for Earth just to avoid the inevitable trainwreck that a Government led first contact situation would certainly lead to. So maybe a lot of my original post is just wishful thinking!

Originally posted by Enkidu

Originally posted by Zenem
I know what you're saying but the fact of the matter is, we are being visited by Aliens and not the other way round.

Care to back up this "fact" with some decent, undeniable evidence? Because I'm not aware of any such thing. If you have this evidence, then I guess the announcement of ET signals received by SETI is no big deal, right? Like announcing you just heard "China Grove" by the Doobie Brothers on the radio from K-ROK 101.

Are you serious?



Come on dude, there has been sightings, abductions, pictures in old manuscripts, the list goes on & on & on...

Originally posted by Enkidu
Because I'm not aware of any such thing.

Well if you're not aware then its not my fault. If you want answers, I suggest searching this very forum for information yourself & making up your own mind.

Originally posted by Enkidu
If you have this evidence, then I guess the announcement of ET signals received by SETI is no big deal, right? Like announcing you just heard "China Grove" by the Doobie Brothers on the radio from K-ROK 101.

I have no idea what you mean by that

[edit on 30-6-2006 by Zenem]

Originally posted by SKMDC1

Thanks ZooMer! I don't really have much experience in the UFO Conspiracy world, but it seems that most who do get so distracted by silliness like "The Aviary" and whatnot that they sometimes miss the clues that are in the mainstream press. The links I posted were really just a quick rundown over the past 2 weeks, picking out the "interesting" articles, and then attempting to connect them. I was hoping that with the brilliant people here at ATS that someone may take one of those strands and run with it. Oh well, I'm keeping an eye on things myself. So, if I start connecting any dots, I'll post them.

Well the Shuttle launch was just delayed, but certainly this mission will be something to keep an eye on if there is some sort of disclosure imminent. If there ever is a full disclosure, I have a feeling both NASA and SETI would be two key players in making the first announcement.

I really do think it may be possible that SETI may have picked up something alien, however I checked the SETI website and found nothing based on that at all. No announcements, no articles, nothing. You would think that because it being so recent, and big mind you, they would mention something on their main page. But it's completely devoid of any such thing.

As for the pyramids, they are just tombs. I really doubt that they are there to 'stabilize' anything. The arguement itself doesn't really make sense.

Sure, there have been some things here and there about UFOs and what not on CNN as well as on the History channel but there always has been stuff like that on. It is interesting.

So disclosure isn't anywhere around the corner. At least, thats what I believe. And I know it's crushing the hopes and dreams of people but it's just reality. People have been poking at UFOs and Aliens as well as the government about this for the past 50 or 60 years and nobody has actually anything to prove except shakey cameras and crappy photos.

I personally think that no alien has ever set foot on Earth. They may have orbited it a few times but that is it. That was probably enough for them to see our massive arsenal of Nuclear weapons. This is following the assumption that the ET's are not violent or they don’t have anything as powerful as the nuclear warhead. So IMO all those 'crappy pictures' and 'wobbly film footage' is all a hoax. I am not saying that no Aliens have ventured here. Pointing to the Roswell crash the Aliens may have found that their space craft couldn’t fly in our atmosphere and as a result they crashed and were killed. This was a lesson to the Alien Species that Earth could not be landed on with their Space craft. Maybe right now they are looking at our aircraft and are making a replica of an Earth aircraft that could be deployed by a space craft and could land on the Earth's surface.

If SETI has made contact as Greer says, this sounds recent no?
So all that stuff about contact before this time is true or not true?
Or is this the "staged" disclosure that we have all been waiting for?

Sorry if this has been asked before.

[edit on 31-7-2006 by Denied]

I don't think this is a "staged" disclosure because it seems that Greer is more or less "leaking" this information. A staged disclosure by the government would likeley invovle SETI, but not in this manner.

Greer is speaking the truth, in my opinion. What motives does he have for causing all of this stir ?

Originally posted by ZoooMer
I don't think this is a "staged" disclosure because it seems that Greer is more or less "leaking" this information. A staged disclosure by the government would likely involve SETI, but not in this manner.

What i mean is maybe "they" are using Greer for the "staged" disclosure.
He is a good guy, and what better medium to disclose.

If you believe things are being covered up, then you would think a staged disclosure might happen, as that maybe the agenda.

[edit on 1-8-2006 by Denied]

I know that Paul Allen is a big donor to the now privatized SETI program but
can he be said to be a "SETI insider"? If Allen is aware of the reception of
signals, what exactly is preventing him from opening his mouth? (Nothing, imo.)

Generic Patriotism? Who knows. There are as many reasons for people to stay quiet as there are stories in the human canon. Fortunately, this is all just speculation yet. Paul Allen funded research into my mysterious medical condition. I have a lot of respect for the guy. Few other people would do that. If he ever came out and said something, I think it would be fairly convincing.

But it is purely speculation that Greer is even talking about Allen....at this point.