Originally posted by ceci2006
The Tony Snow thread is especially indicative lately of my bitterness concerning talks about race-relations.
I asked whether anyone could find Ms. McKinney guilty of barring Whites from any social institution in her speeches, public policies and legislation.
I wanted to know.
Tony Snow didn't bar any black people from any social institution in his speeches, public policies or legislation either, yet you determined he's
took him out of context. His words offended you
, so you branded him a racist. There is no indication that his intent was
racial. AT ALL. He has no history of being racist. To defend Ms. McKinney and lambaste Tony Snow is a double standard.
I hate to think of the repercussions should anyone, black or white, utter the N word on a website of Snow's.
Ms. McKinney played the race card. In my opinion, a very racist thing to do. It says, in essence, "I am not guilty of what you charge because you're
only charging me because of the color of my skin, not what I did." She has a history of racial issues.
I do not hold Ms. McKinney responsible for the words uttered by another. But if she does have any control whatsoever of what's on this website, I
think letting that racial slur remain there is yet one more irresponsible decision on her part. Just like refusing to wear her pin.
She's out to prove something and the decisions she makes in that regard are less than effective and less than responsible, in my opinion. She just
pisses people off and turns them against her 'cause'. One definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over while expecting different
results. Her actions (and inactions) get in the way of what she says she wants. The chip on her shoulder is clear from here.
But, I don't give up. I continue the discussion no matter how many times people have told me to "grow a thick skin" and "find an instance of real
I think that sometimes there are people who don't even "appreciate" the irony in this entire discussion no matter what side of the fence they sit
I think it's truly sad that you place people either on one side of the 'fence' or the other depending on YOUR perception of what they say, because
many times, your perception is so colored by your past and your experiences, I believe you are judging incorrectly. And the judgments you hold are
getting in the way of resolution, in my opinion. Instead, they are keeping the 'fence' firmly in place.
But the problem is that a White male said it. I would understand if people grew angry at Greg Palast for saying it.
To me, the color of the person who said it doesn't matter. I feel the same about this racial slur as I do about the COUNTLESS times I hear black
people use the N word. And if you haven't heard thousands of black people using it, you haven't been listening.
But I don't understand why people supportive of "the author" ... use guilt by association to penalize Ms. McKinney regarding the words of
You put everyone on a side like a grade school game. They're either supportive of jsobecky or on your side. That makes me want to puke, because you
are so wrong. Your assumptions are so wrong. And continuing to strike the divide only makes your position all the more clear.
You say you don't understand why people might think that a racial slur on McKinney's website might cause people to have negative judgments against
her??? Are you serious??? Just imagine a racial slur on Snow's website. Just imagine someone... anyone, using a racial slur against blacks. Imagine
someone referring to black people who vote for Bush as "Oreos" on Snow's website. Let's say you don't even know the color of the poster. If you
tell me that you wouldn't, in some way, hold that against Snow, I don't think I'd believe you.
In fact, I don't even use the n-word and I'm Black.
Why would your skin color have anything to do with it? Unless you believe that black people have some kind of right to use the word? If that's the
case, they why should anyone be upset at Palast? He's white. If blacks can use black racial slurs, the white people can too, right?
The double standard lives on...