BH and subz, you both say some insightful things that I want to respond to.
I hope that you don't pull out of discussions about race. There are many times that I am bitter about being set in my place as well. The Tony Snow
thread is especially indicative lately of my bitterness concerning talks about race-relations.
But, I don't give up. I continue the discussion no matter how many times people have told me to "grow a thick skin" and "find an instance of real
There will be people who "get it". And there will be others who will never get anything concerning issues about race. That's the way life goes.
But if you can reach others who do try to understand and converse with you about race-relations, then it is a small victory.
You can't turn a deaf ear. You have to be determined to continue speaking even when it hurts you.
And believe me, I've been hurt too many times to count.
I continue to listen, learn and ask questions. That is why conversations about Mr. Palast and Ms. McKinney are useful. I think that sometimes there
are people who don't even "appreciate" the irony in this entire discussion no matter what side of the fence they sit on.
I've told you before that I would never use such words against White people anyhow because it is simply disrespectful. And if Ms. McKinney said it
in her post, I would be just as angry because the simple lack of respect.
But this is another thing to think about. I did ask about Black on White racism. I asked whether anyone could find Ms. McKinney guilty of barring
Whites from any social institution in her speeches, public policies and legislation. I wanted to know. One person answered.
It's true that the words used by Greg Palast are indicative of what derogatory monnikers Black people say about White people.
But the problem is that a White male said it. I would understand if people grew angry at Greg Palast for saying it.
But I don't understand why people supportive of "the author" (He refers to me as "the poster" when he is not ignoring or saying something rude to
me. So that is the type of references we use against each other now. He and I are barely on speaking terms as it is.) use guilt by association to
penalize Ms. McKinney regarding the words of another.
I do know Kanye West's songs. And yes, I don't like it when he uses the n-word in them. There are plenty of words you can say other than the
derogatory ones if you want to get your point across.
In fact, I don't even use the n-word and I'm Black. I have written posts on other threads stating my reasons.
But Greg Palast said the derogatory words in question. That is the true double standard here. No one is angry that he said it. Don't you find that
Now, do I like that Mr. Palast said the words in his article? No. But will I defend his First Amendment Right to say it? Yes.
I would hope that others would be just as considerate of me when defending my rights regarding freedom of speech.
However, I know the cynic in me when it comes to the defense of others' words and ideas. Some
people haven't defended me. And some people never will.
But, I truly think that this issue is a tempest in a teapot.
I am also glad that this conversation is taking place so we can understand each other about this issue.
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