Originally posted by Interseptor
Acquiring ballistic missiles on ships and submarines is essential and not risky it gives the enemy second thoughts of attacking its rival this is how Russia and America played the chicken game.
Again in my prev post I explained what difficulties the Pak Navy would have in doing so.
No your wrong there only a hand full of missile around the world that are incredibly fast and have MIRV system {Multiple independently targetable reentry vehicle} this again when setup on a naval craft really shakes the enemy. As you can see the Pakistanis are more advance in missile tech it is a fact.
Really?!
1)ALL ballistic missiles(espcially those which undergo re-entry)have speeds in the vicinity of or excess of mach 10. The Agni II has speeds that go upto(and beyond?) mach 14:
The Agni-II also incorporates a terminal navigation and guidance system; the missile uses ground-based beacons to correct for deviations in the missile's path even as it travels at hypersonic speeds of over Mach 14.
Source
I think there is a general misconception that manmade objects rarely go beyond mach 10.The Space shuttle re-enters at speeds in excess of 20,000km/hr!
The farther the reach, the higher the terminal velocity. Especially if the vehicle skips into space and re-enters.
What is it able to do the faster the missile the more dangerous it is for the enemy as the missile will attack in minutes key sectors of the country and then will be a to launch a MIRV which will disable any air defence as it can not subject which warhead to attack for a complete destruction i.e. anti-missile system.
The Shaheen(or any Pakistani/Indian ballistic missile) is NOT MIRV capable.
ABM systems can target incoming warheads which are ballistic and hence can obviously deal with those speeds.
Note Israeli Arrow Missile defense radars can track targets moving at 3km/s, i.e.
~mach 10:
Radar
Radar frequency L band
Detection range 500km
Target speed Over 3km/s
Missile guidance to distance from target 4m from target
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With multiple warheads the missile defence gets saturated.
Last but not least the Russian Topolo ss-25 is the fastest missile on earth and still is it not taken out of the arsenal when the treaty to get rid of ICBM’s and strategic missiles was taken forward this is a fact.
Treaty to get rid of ICBMs?
And I believe You are why to patriotic about India even though I am not ‘Pakistani nor Indian’ and yeah that comment is racial and of no value if some one is giving you, don’t make that info into directly pointed to ‘racial point of view’ I know YOU DEFINATLY ARE INDIAN AFTER THAT COMMENT, o yeah this may interest you SHAHEEN 1/2 IS NEAR THE SPEED OF THE FASTEST MISSILE ON EARTH.
It was not racial. I'm saying that no detailed info on the Babur has become available online except for speculations on pakistani blogsites and fora. I am Indian and I don't intend to hide that. Infact I'm quite sure that most members on ATS know my nationality. Maybe you can look-up one of my podcasts on ATS
You not being Pakistani; well I seriously doubt that, but anyways now that you mention it, where are you from?
Western intelligence sources said Pakistan's project marked a strategy to defeat U.S.-based missile defense systems by using cruise missiles. The Babur, as well as other advanced cruise missiles, was designed to fly under radar cover and strike any target.
What's worse is that intercepting a low-flying cruise missile carrying a weapons of mass destruction warhead would ensure payload detonation in the targeted country. Sources said that no missile defense system has yet been designed that could neutralize a nuclear-tipped cruise missile without an explosion and radiation fallout.
"It will clearly have India think twice about purchasing the PAC-3 system," an intelligence source said. "The PAC-3 would be useless against Babur."
But there's more. Several of Pakistan's major strategic weapons programs have been financed by Saudi Arabia, sources said. They question whether Pakistan would eventually transfer or deploy Babur missiles in the Arab kingdom to protect against a nuclear Iran.
I don't think the PAC-3/Arrow 2/S-300 will be useless against the Babur.
Especially when an AESA eqiupped jet over an AWACS a/c can detect the same?
Here's a tomahawk getting shot doen over Kosovo. The Yugoslav army reportedly shot down 200+ cruise missiles, most by AAA!
Subsonic cruise missiles are a real duck-shoot?
Source(Scroll down to tomahawks)
You holding up pretty ok until now interseptor.. what happened?
You sure you not pakistani? It would be good to have some pakistanis on international fora. I only seee them on local fora or at best chinese fora.
[edit on 8-8-2006 by Daedalus3]
happy I just like the Pakistanis like you like the Russians the
Pakistanis supply strategic equipment to Turkey and also they are Turkeys strategic ally why don’t you get that I know that you want me to be one
that wants this to become prided over this issue. But sorry I have to break your hart
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