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Bush condemns disclosure of secret anti-terror program
Program that searches bank records lawful, president says
Monday, June 26, 2006; Posted: 11:35 a.m. EDT (15:35 GMT)
WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Bush on Monday sharply condemned the disclosure of a program to secretly monitor the financial transactions of suspected terrorists. "The disclosure of this program is disgraceful," he said.
"For people to leak that program and for a newspaper to publish it does great harm to the United States of America," Bush said, jabbing his finger for emphasis. He said the disclosure of the program "makes it harder to win this war on terror."
The program has been going on since shortly after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks. It was disclosed last week by the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal and the Los Angeles Times. (Full Story)
full story here
original quote by:Liberal1984
More seriously there are a lot of bank accounts that the owners have forgotten.
Congress Overhauls Property Seizure Laws
Boat/US Magazine, July, 2000
Boat owners and other citizens who face seizure of their assets by the federal government -- from boats to bank accounts -- will no longer be considered guilty until proven innocent thanks to a reform measure passed by Congress and signed into law by President Clinton on April 25.
The Civil Asset Forfeiture Reform Act of 2000 amends federal law that allowed a person's assets to be seized and held by federal agencies, whether the person was ever arrested or convicted of any crime. Before the reform measure passed, a citizen's property could be seized on as little as "probable cause" that the property was connected to criminal activity. The property was "arrested," not the person, and it was then up to the citizen to post a bond and prove his or her innocence.
The reform bill was supported by BoatU.S., along with an unusual collection of interest groups, from the American Civil Liberties Union to the National Rifle Association and sponsored by Rep. Henry Hyde (R-IL), Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee.
original quote by:spacedoubt
And it goes on everyday.
The newspapers, the Blogs, even some members of this SITE.
I recently used the term "Verbal Insurgency" to describe these types of actions.
It will do nothing but prolong the war. It's tantamount to aiding the enemy..
original quote by:spacedoubt
You really think the American public, and in this case, The WORLD, has the right to know EVERYTHING the government is doing EVEN IN THE TIME OF WAR? Should we just give everyone in the country a TOP SECRET clearance? No secrets then, right?
Originally posted by ThePieMaN
Its just an excuse so he has someone to blame when all is said and done. When they say shortly after 9-11 I guess they mean after those transactions that went through the computers right before the towers went down and the trades that went uninvestigated.
Pie
original quote by:ferretman2
Please tell me how this affects the typical US citizen?
original quote by:ferretman2
Obviously this is not a big deal to some of you....................maybe you'll get bombed next time, or you'll be on the next hi-jacked plane or the next building that terrorists crach a plane into...........I guess you'll say with your last thoughts...."because of people like me, the Government was unable to stop this attacked...KUDOS TO ME......................."
Originally posted by TONE23
Your damn right I have EVERY right to know EVERYTHING that MY govt DOES period!...
Originally posted by smokenmirrors
ight I have EVERY right to know EVERYTHING that MY govt DOES period!...
I assume misunderstanding of Presidential powers during times of war, along with historical knowledge of same.
Originally posted by ANOK
Start an illegal war that has no end, and they can spy on, collect private info on, and take away the rights of their own citizens for ever.
The dumb incompetents are those that blindly follow them!
To infer I am a dumb incompetent is also your prerogative
original quote by:TONE23
Let me make something perfectly clear here:
In a war of ideology; as is the WOT, it is of the upmost importance that we maintain our IDEALS. The moment we compromise our ideals, we have already lost the war of ideology.
This may not be important to you(as you put it earlier).. But it matters a great deal to me.
I am not so afraid to die that I am willing to compromise, even in wartime
the Ideals and laws of our beloved Constitution; even If my own life ends violently by "terrorists"
Can you say the same?
Originally posted by TONE23
1.)
original quote by:TONE23
Let me make something perfectly clear here:
In a war of ideology; as is the WOT, it is of the upmost importance that we maintain our IDEALS. The moment we compromise our ideals, we have already lost the war of ideology.
This may not be important to you(as you put it earlier).. But it matters a great deal to me.
I am not so afraid to die that I am willing to compromise, even in wartime
the Ideals and laws of our beloved Constitution; even If my own life ends violently by "terrorists"
Can you say the same?
and
2.) How is the Govt.'s abuse of the Constitution Not more dangerous to our way of life than a terrorist?
thank you for your time spacedoubt