6,500 Year Old Anchor Stones in FLorida, page 1
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Topic started on 26-6-2006 @ 09:25 AM by rollinoffset
For amature and armchair archeologists one of the obtacles is just getting people to listen to your theories and to view your evidence openmindedly. Here's a good example in today's Tampa Tribune.

A local man has identified what he believes to me massive mooring stones scattered around Florida and he struggles in vain to get someone established in archeology to examine them. Because he has out of the norm theories as to the Garden of Eden and Atlantis being located in Florida his identification of the stones is ignored. He finally finds a willing ear in Archeologist Bill Donato.

Here is a segment of the article:

There, wedged deep in the grass of the median on Dailey Lane, about 150 yards from the Pithlachascotee River, sits a massive stone with two holes, both 17 1/2 inches in diameter.

Donato said it clearly was an artificial formation with distinct rope grooves running through both holes and other properties that show it may have been used as an anchor or mooring stone.

"The size is astounding,” Donato said, “far bigger than anything I’ve seen. It may have been a mooring stone. The Romans used circles set this way. It’s a similar shape to Carthaginian findings.


from:
STEVEN ISBITTS
The Tampa Tribune

In the article the reporter makes the comment that Saxer, who found the stones, was "homeless for much of 2004". Seems reporters can't mention an out of the mainstream theory with out trying to find something that would discredit the man or label him a crackpot.

tboblogs.com...
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reply posted on 26-6-2006 @ 05:26 PM by Harte
Originally posted by rollinoffset
...A local man has identified what he believes to me massive mooring stones scattered around Florida and he struggles in vain to get someone established in archeology to examine them. Because he has out of the norm theories as to the Garden of Eden and Atlantis being located in Florida his identification of the stones is ignored. He finally finds a willing ear in Archeologist Bill Donato.

Here is a segment of the article:

...Donato said it clearly was an artificial formation with distinct rope grooves running through both holes and other properties that show it may have been used as an anchor or mooring stone.

"The size is astounding,” Donato said, “far bigger than anything I’ve seen. It may have been a mooring stone. The Romans used circles set this way. It’s a similar shape to Carthaginian findings...

Typically, I prefer a more ordinary source for information than somebody's blog. Also, I'm certainly not surprised that this fellow has found an avid listener in Donato, an "archaeologist" whose sole post graduate work has involved the Bimini "Harbor." That was the subject of his Thesis ("A re-examination of the Atlantis Theory") that earned him his Master's degree (he has no PhD.)

As far as publishing his research, he's got several articles in
Ancient American Archaeology Magazine. Their mission:
It is the magazine's purpose to show readers just how, when, and why these once powerful societies arose to great heights of cultural splendor and fell into deep obscurity as dramatic object lessons for our time. No rehash of well-worn theories, Ancient American offers up-to-the-moment news about ongoing discoveries and original perspectives, bringing to light a surprising abundance of fresh material that is seriously challenging entrenched conceptions of our past.

As such, our staff and contributing reporters believe they are writing a New History of our nation by convincingly offering research that, in the coming century, will amount to virtually a total revision of American antiquity. Because of its revolutionary potential, Ancient American, although authoritatively written, is not a scholarly journal. It is a popular science publication specifically aimed at attracting the broadest possible general readership, while refusing to compromise its scientific credibility.


He's also been featured in Atlantis Rising (like the above Ancient American Magazine, Atlantis Rising is also "not a scholarly journal.")

So if you want an Atlantis in America guy, he's probably your man. I suspect he's funded primarily, if not solely, by Edgar Cayce's A.R.E. Foundation.

Regarding the stones pictured, my guess is they are natural.

Harte


reply posted on 27-6-2006 @ 04:39 PM by EdenKaia
Originally posted by timski
Anyone read 1421-The Year China Discovered The World?
From the accounts of the author, Gavin Menzies, and that quoted in your link that such similar stones have been found as far afield as Bimini and other far-flung locations, it would sound like these carved stones could be either sea-anchors or ballast from the Chinese Junks of Emperor Zhou Di's treasure-fleet which has been suggested as having charted all the continents and circumnavigated the globe decades...even centuries before the Olde-European Naval Powers. Is there any information on any remains of hardwood/teak timbered vessels found on the Florida shoreline, or accounts from Native historical traditions of strange looking people landing in that part of the Americas?? Also, have any geo-chemical analysis been performed on the stones to determine their geological origin??

Have you seen the size of the stone in question? As has been stated before, what do you think would happen to a Chinese Junk ship with this thing hoisted over the side?
Classic junks were built of softwoods – though in Guangdong in teak with multiple compartments accessed by separate hatches and ladders: similar in structure to the interior stem of bamboo. These were not watertight, as is commonly believed, all wrecks so far recovered having limber holes at the base of each bulkhead. The largest junks were built for world exploration in the 1400s, and were around 120 meters in length

Source
That's four hundred feet people, and the width would have been close to 150 ft. This is a huge ship, granted, but the weight of this stone it still a bit much. There is even some speculation as to whether or not ships of this size could even have sailed. There are records of Chinese Emperors building things such as Portal Stones for their tombs that could not even be moved upon their death. Seems the Chinese were adept at biting off more than they could chew. Medieval Howard Hughes.
How did the Chinese shipbuilders construct and operate wooden ships that were 40 percent longer and 65 percent wider than the largest wooden ships known to have been built at any time anywhere else? Since no special construction techniques such as iron strapping for supporting the wooden hulls of these treasure ships were reported, there is something inherently improbable about the claims made for them in the Ming texts. Perhaps these texts only describe a grandiose dream and the overseas trading voyages of the early Ming Dynasty were, in fact, accomplished with large numbers of smaller ships. Or perhaps one or more ships of this kind were built at the Longjiang shipyard outside Nanjing but never sailed.

Source
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