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Ram

posted on Jun, 24 2006 @ 08:50 PM
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If you don't know where to start - Then goto this page Information wars
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[edit on 24-6-2006 by Ram]




posted on Jun, 24 2006 @ 09:10 PM
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Originally posted by DYepes

That was a single attack by an Islamic extremist, but thanks to a great propoganda campeign have convinced many Americans and Westerners in the world to support a war that can only be described as a war against Islam.


Actually, it wasn't a single attack. There have been many attacks around the globe and on U.S. interests as well as constant threats. But, I completely understand where you are going with this, and I beg to differ regarding the war. I think we would have went to war with Iraq anyway. Regardless of 9/11 we would be in Iraq right now. There were so many underhanded things going on in Iraq and the U.S. was losing out on its interests. This is why I do believe our government sat back and turned a blind eye to the signs of 9/11. And, I want to make clear that I don't agree with generalizing all Muslims as extremists. The Islamic religion in no shape, form or fashion would support what the radicals of their religion are doing and how they are portraying it.


So yes I believe one isolated incident involving Masons could very well involve the whole society since many westerners now believe anything Islam involves the takeover of the world and death to all infidels as well as the source of all terrorism.


I don't believe anything Islam involves taking over the world. Only the extremists that believe in blowing themselves and innocent people up as far as I can see. And only small minded extremists in this country actually believe all Muslims are a threat. But, the fact of the matter remains that radical Muslims are a threat to the U.S. And no i'm not blinded by a propaganda campaign when I say that. It's common sense and logic really. But, hey remember what I said about my logic....sometimes it blinds me.



posted on Jun, 24 2006 @ 09:18 PM
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Is the Masonic lodge you guys mention the suspects were reportedly members of the same as the "Moorish Temple of something something" I only remember the words "Moorish" and "Temple" in it from a local news report, and wasn't giving it my full attention at the moment, apparently the Moorish Temple is a sect of Islam, and they mentioned worries that these men were members of a "splinter-sect" of the Moorish sect.


edit - Just one more thing I thought was weird about the news reports - it was reported that they wanted the money, in part, for "uniforms" - uhh, nice way to stay inconspicuous, guys! Just curious, why would a group that wants to remain undetected need/want uniforms, and who'd be in charge of patch-making (j/k) one of the neighbors of the "compound" said they were running around at night "jumping over chairs" while dressed as "ninjas" (her words, not mine) Parts of the reports just really do seem strange.

[edit on 24-6-2006 by AlphaHumana]



posted on Jun, 24 2006 @ 09:23 PM
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Originally posted by Ram
There is many people who knows about the Masons - and the entire pyramid of Grand master what ever they call themselves.


Actually, my father, my brother, my father's father and on down the line were all Masons. In the small little town I come from, most people are that are business owners, bankers, etc. They get together and do their little secret rituals and talk about women according to my family....but, hey I don't know. The modern Masonry is so blown out of proportion in my opinion. Half of them don't even know what it's about, it's only a social mechanism in their eyes. It makes them feel like somebody.



Anyway - I once researched Ufo's... And dare i tell you where my research ended? Masons.. Vatican in Rome - and what have you... I can say - I wish i never took that RED pill - I should have taken the Blue one.


Exactly where do you do your research? Basically you can find just about any research on the web these days to support any preconceived notion you may have.


You could make a choice - If you want to know what this is all about... Educate yourself.


Yeah, I'll make sure and do that.


I think i was wrong - I think you took it to your heart - And that should be respected by everyone. Nomatter what color or side we are on - We all have a right to know the truth in our short lifetimes.


I'm really not on a side. I'm actually kind of lost when it comes to a side. I feel by myself and isolated the majority of the time when it comes to either side of politics if you want the truth of it. I dislike a ton of things about our government especially both political parties. But, that doesn't mean that I take every news event and run with it deeming it a conspiracy.

Anyhow, have a nice night!


Ram

posted on Jun, 25 2006 @ 06:40 AM
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hmm - yea.. Worldwide...Logde's...
You know all these logde - have a master of some kind - and they communicate with some tempel that controls everything. I even heard a member told it on the Radio. Offcourse the master of each logde only get the message he needs to have. And he communicate that message to he's small community logde. And only tells what is nessesary for them to know. Offcourse the (mini-Logdes) wont get the whole plan of the New World Order - And in my memory i can only say that he said the main tempel was in USA - And there where some other Main Tempels around the globe. Just like a computer - or a pyramid.

The guys in the buttom wont know the whole deal - Cause they would start running out that tempel faster than we can say "beers" - if they where told the secrets higher in the hiracy. And by the Way - Illuminati is something else.

But the whole plan is a nice and good plan. But i personally don't think that plan needs millions of dead people laying around the globe with a bullet in their head - dead.
Cause we have a nice plan.
I just can't agree with that - sorry.

If any of you want to know what a Top Illuminati has to say about this - then watch these videos - Here. The guy with the dark beard is a little far out i think myself. But it's good education.&.Information.

Now he will tell you how the pyramid looks from the top - He almost made it to the top - But somthing happend to him.
He will tell you things....


Where i did my research on UFO's - oh well - I saw one - and i have meet people who did to. But It's not really the UFO's that are most important here -


[edit on 25-6-2006 by Ram]



posted on Jun, 25 2006 @ 07:04 AM
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Originally posted by Nygdan
American citizens have a right to privacy...


These Americans lost their right to privacy when they conspired
to blow up the Sears Tower and other places ... when they conspired
to murder Americans ... when they contacted a person whom they
considered to be AlQaeda to help them make those dreams possible.

To clarify their religion - they belong to the Moorish Science Temple of America.

Frankly - their religion and their skin color don't matter.
It's what they were planning to do and the fact that they
contacted people who they thought could help them
carry out their murders and destruction. THAT is the
criminal behavior that matters.

THIS is some of what the FBI has been looking at on the main group
library.unlv.edu
foia.fbi.gov...

This is what they say about themselves -
www.moorishsciencetempleofamericainc.com...

This is what others say about them -
www....-------------------------/library/religion/moorish_science_temple_of_america/
en.wikipedia.org...

YES, there ARE connections to Nation of Islam and the whack Louis Farrakhan.
(complete with people who 'disappear' and others who take over ...
probable murder and corruption)
www.inetmgrs.com...

In the words of one of their own leaders - a call to all BLACK radical militants -
(White people are not welcome to 'worship' - these are a racist bunch!
Some 'religion', eh?
)
hometown.aol.com...

Last years Islamic Conference in Atlanta Georgia had the
Moorish Science Temple of America taking care of the finances.
www.allconferences.com...



[edit on 6/25/2006 by FlyersFan]
mod edit to shorten link

[edit on 25-6-2006 by DontTreadOnMe]



posted on Jun, 25 2006 @ 07:36 AM
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Originally posted by AlphaHumana
why would a group that wants to remain undetected need/want uniforms
...they were running around at night "jumping over chairs" while dressed
as "ninjas"


I saw the same report on TV. The same interview. These Moorish
Science Temple people would train in Ninja outfits and in their
conferences (see the above list of links provided) they would call
upon America to be 'converted' and to come under the religious
Islamic Law.

This isn't just a religion. It's a subversive militant cult.

www.globalsecurity.org...
www.moralgroup.com...
www.danielpipes.org...


[edit on 6/25/2006 by FlyersFan]


Ram

posted on Jun, 25 2006 @ 07:48 AM
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I can't go no further...
This is where you see a dustcloud, and can hear my footsteps running screaming out the horizon..

bye all - "WHHHHAAAAAaaaaa!!!!! They are all insane!!!!!"
Was nice chatting with you...............



posted on Jun, 25 2006 @ 07:56 AM
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Is it just me or do these guys come off as the terrorist version of "Making The Band"? I have a hard time seeing them as a threat, they just seem to me to be a bunch of bored, self important thugs looking for a cause and some cool clothes. Al Queda is the "new black".



posted on Jun, 25 2006 @ 08:30 AM
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just seems blown up, why they took this so far when they had them at hello....

they obviously didnt look like they were prepared to robb arbys...

more like they were overheard during a session of the Relaxing bush.....


Ram

posted on Jun, 25 2006 @ 11:18 AM
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....I have no further comments....

I can't write no more - 622 -

Damn i need a few more hours before i can leave for my holliday..

[edit on 25-6-2006 by Ram]



posted on Jun, 25 2006 @ 11:23 AM
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Thanks for clarifying about the Moorish Science Temple, FlyersFan. Which means that no more need to blame the Masons for this. LOL

Ram....please take care of yourself. I wish you well.


Ram

posted on Jun, 25 2006 @ 06:41 PM
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thx - I will be working on a report that will explain why i think America was attacked on 6/22.
If the report turns out fine - We will se how far it will reach the globe.

The Absurd Report:



posted on Jun, 25 2006 @ 09:17 PM
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Originally posted by syntaxer

I think if there is a conspiracy involved, it has now shifted against the black people of America. Actually, considering the history of riots and assassinations, this is nothing new to America. So, not only do young black male teens make the 6 o'clock news for crimes against society, they are now effectively being brought in to the same category as Al-Qaeda, Islamic extremists, and the War on Terror.

Above, I see ghetto thugs within those mug shots, ask yourselves if it impacts the way you view Al-Qaeda now..


When this whole terrorism thing first started, right after 9/11, a lot of the young black men I know, and their moms, breathed a sigh of relief, glad not to be "It" anymore. But, I always felt in my heart that that was just a temporary reprieve, the quiet before the storm, if you will. I was just waiting for this terrorism crap to hit the black male population. Blacks have always been this nation's whipping-boys, and girls, so it was just a matter of time.

I'm a black conspiracy theorist. So, what, am I a terrorist now?


And, hearing Larry Silverstein's name mixed up in this just makes the set-up more obvious.

[edit on 25-6-2006 by HarlemHottie]



posted on Jun, 25 2006 @ 09:43 PM
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but, everytime a black person says he wants to "kill all the devils," or simply refers to "white devils," it doesn't automatically mean that he's a disciple of Farrakhan, or that he's been brainwashed by Farrakhan's rhetoric. A lot of black people reach that conclusion on their own, without his help. So do a lot of other people of color. That would appear to be the result of world domination.

While I disagree with the 'kill all the devils' thing on principle (I don't like the idea of killing anyone), I can certainly see where the sentiment arises.

Like I said, don't shoot the messenger.


Originally posted by HowardRoark
I base that on the "kill all the devils" quote from one of the accused.

The "White devils" is a favorite theme of Farrakhan's

While he himself probably isn't directly involved, his rhetoric is.



posted on Jun, 26 2006 @ 05:39 AM
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Originally posted by HowardRoark
he himself probably isn't directly involved, his rhetoric is.


www.inetmgrs.com...

The Farrakhan/Moorish Science Temple of America connection has
already been established.



[edit on 6/26/2006 by FlyersFan]



posted on Jun, 26 2006 @ 05:43 AM
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Originally posted by HarlemHottie
Blacks have always been this nation's whipping-boys, and girls,
so it was just a matter of time.


Seven Americans are caught in the act of making plans to blow
up tens of thousands of Americans; destroy property on a massive
scale; and terrorize the country. They are caught contacting a
person whom they consider to be a terrorist and someone who
can help them accomplish this.

How exactly are they "whipping-boys"?

Definitions of 'Whipping boy' -
1 - A scapegoat.
2 - A boy formerly raised with a prince or other young
nobleman and whipped for the latter's misdeeds.

These seven people were plannning on mass murder, destruction,
and terrorism. How are they whipping boys? How are they being
punished for someone else's misdeeds? No matter what their skin
color happens to be - they are clearly criminals.





[edit on 6/26/2006 by FlyersFan]



posted on Jun, 26 2006 @ 09:54 AM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan
These seven people were plannning on mass murder, destruction,
and terrorism. How are they whipping boys? How are they being
punished for someone else's misdeeds? No matter what their skin
color happens to be - they are clearly criminals.


CNN calls them "inept." I agree. As far as I can tell, some FBI agent posing as AQ made contact with them, offered a plan, and the funds to accomplish it. Until I see conclusive evidence that they ALONE concocted this nefarious plan, and actually had the means to follow through, I'm not seeing anything but entrapment. Due to the agent's involvement, I would, at most, consider them guilty of conspiracy, but with the lightest sentences, since the plan didn't originate with them.

As to my "whipping boy" statement, I stand by it. The discerning eye can see that, in this 'War on Terrorism,' so-called "radical Muslims" have become the international 'whipping boys.' When our government decides to rescend(sp?) one of our civil liberties, the blame/'whipping' is always placed on the "radical Muslims," ie, the Patriot Act, wiretapping, etc.

So, now, we, the American public, have a new enemy, walking among us, but- hey!- we've always been suspicious of them anyway, and now, we've been reaffirmed. We always treated them like criminals anyway.

I wonder which civil liberty they'll take next, as a result of these homegrown terrorists...hmmm... the Voting Rights Act of 1965 is up for renewal, but facing resistance from southern republicans. By removing the system that ensures African-American suffrage, they'll take away another civil liberty and no one will even care. At least not mainstream America.

IMO, the key with this administration is that you have to look two steps ahead. When a story breaks, its because they're setting something up further down the line. Look to the ramifications.



posted on Jun, 26 2006 @ 09:55 AM
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double post

[edit on 26-6-2006 by HarlemHottie]



posted on Jun, 26 2006 @ 09:59 AM
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Originally posted by HarlemHottie
CNN calls them "inept." I agree. As far as I can tell, some FBI agent posing as AQ made contact with them,

THey were trying to make contact with international terrorist organizations, and fortunately got an FBI decoy.

offered a plan, and the funds to accomplish it. Until I see conclusive evidence that they ALONE concocted this nefarious plan, and actually had the means to follow through, I'm not seeing anything but entrapment.
I can't see entrapment being a legitimate defense for mass murder. Drug dealing, yes, hell, MAYBE even a single instance of murder, but not mass murder and terorrism.



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