Originally posted by Rockpuck
I was simply asking if this movie, and those on this board thought that it was a neocon problem.

Sometimes, when someone applies a "new" term for a very old concept (ie: neocon), it may lead to a bit of confusion as to where it all started. To
the best of my research (I don't restrict myself to any single source or even a single
approach on how & where I research), the most plausable
theory I've been able to construct goes like this:
In the early days of Mesopotamia & Egypt, those people who were the leaders of the "organized" religions would preach general, good sense behavior
to the "flock" of the mere commoners. Of course, if you know of the histories of ancient civilizations, you know that, since illiteracy was the
"norm", a lot of the religious tenants were taught through the use of the "mystery plays", performed on stage. Of course, those who designed &
directed those mystery plays held the "deep secrets" of the religion itself. Those who were not inducted into the "mystery cult" could only learn
a small part of the religious tenants, while those who
were members of the mystery cult caught secret messages & information that the commoners
missed. These "mystery cults" were the backbone of what we would today call the "secret societies".
Secret Societies have, literally, been around about as long as "society" itself. Down through the ages, some of these societies have been rooted
out, exposed & some got banned (or either became more secrative & went further underground); Adam Weshaupt's Bavarian Illuminati is a fairly famous
example of a secret society that got caught. Secret Societies are still all around us...Freemasons, the Skull & Bones that Bush is a member of,
Bilderburgs...The list goes on & on. These are only the ones that have some kind of public "face", so who can say how many are so far
"underground" that the general public has never
heard of them? How many have been caught in history but may still be around, still
operating?
Of those that were caught & (apparently) disbanded, it was determined that they were still adhering to the practices & rituals that first originated
from those very same "mystery cults" in more ancient times! Even though Pres. Bush professes
publicly to practice Christianity, who knows
what he
really may be practicing at those Skull & Bones meetings? Not just Bush for a theoretical example, but consider this ancient, religious
connection to the modern secret societies & start asking, "Whatever they say in public, what really
are they doing & why?"
You also must remember that those ancient "mystery cults" worshipping pantheons of gods; Consider the high levels of "religious intolerence" that
fueled so many wars all down through history:
Everyone
must be "one of us", everyone
must follow our way of life. Everyone must bow to the will of
our gods. We have the
secret wisdom of our gods, so therfore, everyone must serve
us.
Even the pantheistic Egyptians went through a short period of monotheism; recall the reign of the "heretic Pharoah", Akenaten. There is some
archeological evidence that Moses grew up in Egypt about that time...Perhaps one may have been an influence of some kind on the other? Which one
influenced which? These qeustions are only a small part of history; the point here is that, not only the religious cults that still existed after
Akenaten's "religious restructuring" really resented that. The general population of Egypt was still firmly rooted in pantheism as well; it
wouldn't take much for the "old" religious mainstream to chip away at Akenaten & his "heresy". Even in the new city he founded, the general
population still possessed the icons of their previous worship & still venerated the pantheon.
The monotheism introduced by Pharoah was quickly squelched when he died. His successor was (perhaps) the most famous of Egyptian Pharoahs; Tutankamon!
Needless to say, with a boy as Pharoah, the "old school" religion had no trouble restoring things back to "status quo". There was even some
indications that little king Tut fell because of the religious "secret society" that reviled his ancestor.
So it seems pretty obvious that "secret societies" have a pretty good handle & loads of multi-generational experience when it comes to directing the
course of entire
nations. All through the medeval times & even into the "Age of Enlightenment" of the Renaissance, religions had firm control
of the hearts & minds of the general public; well-noted thinkers who seemed to contradict the religion were labeld as heretics & blasphemers. Recall
such names as Nostradme, Galileo & many others who were condemmed by the Church-Recall the Crusades--Recall the Roman invasion of the Keltoi, as much
for religious conversion as for conquering the land.
The USA was founded on the monotheistic Judeo-Christian tenants. To these "Mystery Cults/Secret Societies", the concept of Freedom for the
Individual would be a blasphemy. All throughout history, they've been able to squash such ideals, but the USA is unique in that the nation & the
government was
founded upon such principles derived from a Judeo-Christian faith. So the Eurpoean (mostly English) secret societies that have
been able to keep religion firmly shackled under the tenants of a religion considered it their "sacred duty" to manipulate that "upstart nation"
into ruin...Is any of this starting to sound more familiar?
Yes, secret societies began in religion, expanded into commerce as to better increase influence...Once banks were invented to control commerce, from
there it was easy to use commerce & commercialism to manipulate governments. Why do you think that, even today, the two most widespread
monotheistic religions (who both worship the same God, BTW) are fighting each other? Because they are a "blasphemy" to the gods that are
worshipped by the secret societies that have the most control!
In most of the world, who controls money? Banks. What is it that money controls? Commerce & Governments. What's going to be the driving force behind
establishing the NWO? Money! And they're doing it with fake money that has no value & manipulating national policy to do it!
What's more, I'm willing to bet that the governments that go along with this plan have no idea who's
really going to be on top when the
"compost connects with the rotary oscillator". When they "join" the NWO, they will (by definition) lose their positions of authority; as nations
(a large number of small groups that rule the various nations) butt heads, the "winners" are only going to be a single small group...Even one else
are slaves to that group. What's the single class of people who control the
real influence? BANKS! When you look at the major shareholders of
the largest international banks, you're looking at the "secret society" that will rule the NWO! So the NWO is going to be ruled over by a small
group of "pagan" pantheist worshippers!
Of course, this is only theory, based upon history & research into a wide variety of subjects...But it's the best theory I've been able to come up
with, considering the evidence I've been able to find.