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Star Gate and the Truth

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posted on Jun, 29 2006 @ 07:14 AM
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Anyone remember William Hamilton III?

He said, "New material has revealed that we may now have developed fully functional field-propelled aerospace craft from these studies and that we may have a secret space program beyond Cosmic Top Secret."

www.astrosciences.info...




posted on Jun, 29 2006 @ 11:47 AM
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That we have the technology there is no doubt in my mind. That the secrets surrounding other life forms should be made public I have doubts about. We may not be strong enough for the truth. Just keep that in mind.



posted on Jun, 29 2006 @ 03:54 PM
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IMO

Listen to me now and hear me later...

People are far more interested in getting a paycheck and spending it to give much thought to the reality of ET.

In our polarized society, at the end of the day that knowledge would just be added to the already long list of things that don't really have much of an impact on our lives.

Worst case? Our gov't would use it to take the place of the "evil doers", to further steal our rights and money.

-=v=-



[edit on 29-6-2006 by vorlance]



posted on Jun, 29 2006 @ 08:14 PM
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Originally posted by Matyas And for how long have such projects existed?


Funny you mentioned "Cat" and "Spaceship drive" in the same post



But seriously that was very interesting, I was planning a new thread soon when I have time to pull my old notebook apart. And I for one don't mind lengthy posts in my thread.

But about the qoute I snipped. In 1969 I heard a recording of an interview with Herman Oberth, german rocket scientist and teacher of Von Braun. On this recording he mentions "electric spaceships NOT of ionic propulsion" I don't have a date on when it was recorded, but it is included on Time Life records "To The Moon"

[edit on 29-6-2006 by zorgon]



posted on Jun, 30 2006 @ 07:05 AM
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Originally posted by zorgon Funny you mentioned "Cat" and "Spaceship drive" in the same post


I forgot the buttered toast
^2


Originally posted by zorgon But seriously that was very interesting, I was planning a new thread soon when I have time to pull my old notebook apart. And I for one don't mind lengthy posts in my thread.


AHA! Are you a ramblin' wreck from Georgia Tech (and a hell of an engineer)?


Originally posted by zorgon But about the qoute I snipped. In 1969 I heard a recording of an interview with Herman Oberth, german rocket scientist and teacher of Von Braun. On this recording he mentions "electric spaceships NOT of ionic propulsion" I don't have a date on when it was recorded, but it is included on Time Life records "To The Moon"


Verrry interresting, as ions constitute a vast majority of propulsion methods, from MHD to ionic wind. The x-ray excitation from todays "flying saucers" creates the amber glow so many observers notice by ionizing the airspace. I am not 100% certain about this, but I feel close. I would like to know more about what he meant.



Originally posted by vorlance People are far more interested in getting a paycheck and spending it to give much thought to the reality of ET.


Minus of course the four trillion that disappeared over the decades instead of going into the infrastructure.


Originally posted by vorlance In our polarized society, at the end of the day that knowledge would just be added to the already long list of things that don't really have much of an impact on our lives.


O-Kaay, so are you gonna be the one to tell the people in all the nations of Earth where their children have been disappearing to?



Originally posted by vorlance Worst case? Our gov't would use it to take the place of the "evil doers", to further steal our rights and money.


That can almost be construed as a bait, but seeing it is non-partisan it may not be meant as such. This scenario was already foreseen by (of all people can you guess who) Von Braun (surprise, surprise)! Government is not all absolute evil. Our tushes would have been toast long ago if it were not for that tangled mass of agencies covering our backs. Yeah, I could do without the bureaucrats too, but I don't intend to throw out the baby with the bathwater. Just consider for a moment those public servants have a life and family of thir own and therefore share the same desire to survive as you and I do. I suggest exercising caution before making an assumption of such sweeping magnitudes, as it is the people like you and I and everyone else here that take the ultimate responsibility by placing our leaders in office (and you don't want to chase away capital either, eh?)!



posted on Jun, 30 2006 @ 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by Matyas
One particular that stands out to me about the Stargate story is the circle story element. I was foraging the web for another member when I came across this:

www.dartmouth.edu...


Wow nice link I like that line. That one picture on the Greek cieling sure looks like Jesus coming out of a star gate. If one where to think like that... enless possibilities come to mind


As to the Unified Feild. I personally have always felt it would be required before we start shooting for the stars.

Of course with human inginuity, we wouldn't have to explain it, just steal a saucer and figure out where the gas pedal and brakes are.

About the circle, don't forget the occult world has been using that symbols as "symbolic gateways" forever, but lets not open that can of worms



posted on Jun, 30 2006 @ 03:47 PM
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Originally posted by Matyas
That we have the technology there is no doubt in my mind. That the secrets surrounding other life forms should be made public I have doubts about. We may not be strong enough for the truth. Just keep that in mind.


Yes I covered that in another thread. Man is not ready for the truth.

Let me give an example. Religion... what would happen today if someone could present absolute proof that the true God was [for arguments sake] THOR

What would happen to the world? Same with Aliens. If they existed most of the worlds religious beliefs would be in instant turmoil and Kaos.



posted on Jun, 30 2006 @ 04:12 PM
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Funny you mentioned "Cat" and "Spaceship drive" in the same post


Re: "Cat from Outerspace". Disney. Cat appears for a rerun in "Men in Black" both have the key to the unverse around there neck




AHA! Are you a ramblin' wreck from Georgia Tech


UofT, Toronto...Security Systems Specialist... high government clearance...shhh



Verrry interresting, as ions constitute a vast majority of propulsion methods, from MHD to ionic wind. The x-ray excitation from todays "flying saucers" creates the amber glow so many observers notice by ionizing the airspace. I am not 100% certain about this, but I feel close. I would like to know more about what he meant.


Yes so do I. About 20 years ago I was really looking into this stuff and even then it was hard to get any references. Afterall Herman was a Nazi rocket scientist and there wasn't even the hint of the internet. I bet Von Bruan knows what he spoke about, but unfortunately he is gone too. Not before he left plans etc for the next 20 years of spaceship designs though.

I am sure there are some out of print books out there somewhere, I havn't really had the time to hunt these down. Maybe with the internet and posts like these I will get lucky [Its one of the reasons I toss things like that in here... free research assistants
] Don't forget about all those "foo fighters" reported during the war. It was afterall rumored that Germany was working on saucer type craft.

Let me toss a little teaser at you. I wanted to put this on a new post and I will next week, but maybe give you something to work with. [Actually might be better if I create a web page for it]

Imagine a uniform shaped craft, a sphere, a lens shape doesn't matter as long as it is symetrical...
Remember high school physics class the pith ball in the sphere...
Put an electromagnetic field charge on your sphere or lens...
no effect inside, glow outside color is brighter as speed increases from dull red orange to brite blue white... blurry exterior look as you are seeing the field not the craft like heat over a radiator distorts the image behind...

Two things you need an energy collecter that absorbs all forms of EM radiation and a reflector that can be controled for direction.

Collect all EM coming in, focus and direct it behind you... No feul stops needed, no waste... [well a little... the colored light emmited during operation... nothing is perfect..]

This is one reason I feel you would need the unified field solved, because you would need to be able to block gravity and inertia as well.
IF you had that, sudden bursts of speed and sharp turns would no longer be a problem.

Now compare this to actual sitings. Using this as a search criteria, its easy to weed out fakes in a matter of minutes. I found that reports of UFO's sighted by reputable people usually fit into this pattern.

Okay I have more and better details, but I said it was a teaser


And if you create and working engines with this I want a "piece of the action"

BTW if we need titanium for the hull, no problem




[edit on 30-6-2006 by zorgon]



posted on Jun, 30 2006 @ 05:51 PM
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from what i heard the real star gate was supposed to be a military project based around 'remote viewing' it was similiar to the fbi using psychics, esp experiments and other mojo to try and gain alternative forms of 'intelligence'. Its had many years put into its RnD.

Probably never got it working tho, or opened up a portal to another world by mistake. (jk, k!)

A quick search on google revealed this:

www.remoteviewed.com...

[edit on 30-6-2006 by Insolubrious]



posted on Jun, 30 2006 @ 08:57 PM
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Originally posted by zorgon It was after all rumored that Germany was working on saucer type craft.


Yep. I am wrestling with some Nazi mysticism on another thread. I feel that proponets of their ideaology swiped and subverted material from Henry Coanda, and who knows what else has been stolen. I think they get way too much credit for advanced propulsion systems.


...Put an electromagnetic field charge on your sphere or lens...
no effect inside, glow outside color is brighter as speed increases from dull red orange to brite blue white... blurry exterior look as you are seeing the field not the craft like heat over a radiator distorts the image behind...


Sounds like a magnetron. Wreaks havoc with radar, navigation and sensors.


Two things you need an energy collecter that absorbs all forms of EM radiation and a reflector that can be controled for direction.


Now I think that is the theoretical part.


This is one reason I feel you would need the unified field solved, because you would need to be able to block gravity and inertia as well.


Who needs a UFT when we already have electrodynamics? And that gravity/inertia thing has already been solved


www.rexresearch.com...


And if you create and working engines with this I want a "piece of the action"


You and me buddy, and I have been a wantin' for 20 years. I have to date found no one who will fund this. All I get is silence.

Let's take it to the Skunkworks thread, just for old times


[edit on 6/30/2006 by Matyas]



posted on Jul, 1 2006 @ 03:38 AM
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Originally posted by Insolubrious
from what i heard the real star gate was supposed to be a military project



Missed that one, thanks. I see that project has nothing to do with an actual gate to the stars, but with articles and projects like this, no wonder everyone thinks conspiracies



posted on Jul, 1 2006 @ 03:44 AM
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Originally posted by Matyas
I have to date found no one who will fund this. All I get is silence.


We need a good fund raiser. I have seen some crazy projects get funded.

HMMM T&C says no recruiting... don't see anything about fund raising.

Nice article. Thanks. I kinda let all this research drop some years back, so have a little catching up to do



posted on Jul, 1 2006 @ 04:38 PM
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Here are some groovy animated Stargates:













posted on Jul, 1 2006 @ 08:51 PM
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Nice Picture Vorlance

I see they took away your quote button


As to the other thread "Star Gates are Real" her books are
HERE


She also posted a really convincing representation of a stargate in Egyptian artwork

Amazing Picture from Ancient Egypt

Look at the doorway with the water represented around it


Her discussion follows along the same path as mine did many years back, before stargate was mentioned. She has managed to put LOTS of details and links in there that will take me months to read through



posted on Jul, 2 2006 @ 12:29 AM
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Zorgon! If you havn't caught it yet I thought I would sneak this in here for your benefit


post id: 2125884



posted on Jul, 2 2006 @ 01:14 AM
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And I was just beginning to like you


jaguarike scares me scientology scares me


but as to the inquisition, well every King should have a little torture chamber in the basement



posted on Jul, 2 2006 @ 01:40 AM
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Originally posted by zorgon jaguarike scares me scientology scares me


Same here. Its your friend. Go look again.

post id: 2125902



posted on Jul, 2 2006 @ 01:50 AM
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Originally posted by Matyas
Same here. Its your friend. Go look again.


Oh undo not a friend [yet] just found her thread this morning actually, but boy she did her homework. I need to pass on some info to her top secret stuff secret society business and all


But she is going to save me a lot of work hunting down stuff. I already have about 50 links of hers to read through. But that Egyptian picture is about as close to a Stargate as I have seen


[edit on 2-7-2006 by zorgon]



posted on Jul, 2 2006 @ 01:59 AM
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I think it is deeper zorgon. It is another queer coincidence where Pegasus shows up again, once in my work, once in a friend, once in a friend of a friend. You're the analyst, you tell me. Can there be identifiers that survive erasure?

I see people with special abilities and interests coming together here, getting to know each other, and eventually starting a project that may or may not have been successful in the past and may or may not be successful in the future, but nevertheless has bearing on our purpose for being here. Get my drift?



posted on Jul, 2 2006 @ 02:13 AM
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Originally posted by Matyas
Get my drift?


Oh I see where you are going now. Sorry I did not read all her posts yet, but yes that could be a long discussion. Let me address that in the morning. Had too much wine tonight. There was a Christian Lassen gallery opening here tonight where he unveiled his black lombargini with dolphins painted on it.

He too believes dolphins are the most evolved lifeforms on this rock



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