posted on Jun, 25 2006 @ 06:48 AM
In an exlusive inverview with Globes the procurement officier of the Israel Air Force told Israel has plans to replace their older F-16's with
100 Joint strike fighters. The first F-35s will come into service in the mid-2010s.
Besides the JSF they also have plans to buy several C-130J Super Hercs and are currently upgrading their CH-53 Super Stallion helicopters.
They won't replace their F-16A Netz. They will replace their F-16C.30 and .40 Barak. The former are almost entirely pointdefense dedicated birds
with a little bit of CAS as the A-4/Kfir they themselves replaced. They are likely 'reserve' squadrons and hence are not hard to support, cash
OTOH, the JSF has the potential to do what the Ra'am and Suifa were supposed to but for which the changing threat circumstances (S2A and IADS
especially) over there have more or less rendered laughable. Namely return to Israel 'forward air dominance' and the ability to Strategically
Strike to Damascus and beyond.
For this alone, I would not trust them. Not so long as we are trying to drag the dead of the Iraqi regime along.
At the same time, 100X104 million dollars = TEN POINT FOUR BILLION DOLLARS.
Almost all of which will be hidden under the rug of FMF and Congressionally lobbied 'charity' on behalf of the taxpayer.
ASK YOURSELF. If the Israeli's only 'bought for themselves' about 25 F-15I, to fullfill the longrange and precision strike roles being vacated by
the Kurnass, why do you think they should be _given_ 100 other airframes to do exactly the same mission?
So solly dolly, buy for yourself what you think you can afford, don't ask for credit where it ain't due. 9/11 more or less ended the 'who has the
most influence in the Middle East' argument.
Very interesting development. Israel was kept out of the JSF program for several years. In november 2005 they were finally able to join the program,
but have not worked out the technology tranfser problems (yet).
Why on earth would they want to? You see, that's the fallacy here. Israel has allllll these fancy weapons programs from clones of the GBU-24 and
AGM-62 and GBU-10/12 even a halfway-sorta JDAM clone. While they also have indig developments like the Delilah, Popeye and Derby/Python. And you
know what? Except for export where they undercut U.S. systems, they _prefer_ our weapons.
Why? Because, by taking advantage (and I do mean that in all senses of the word) of our mass production techniques and Congressional Dole, they can
buy them cheaper than they can make them.
And because, specific to the JSF, _none_ of their weapons are appropriately sized or ranged to take advantage of the aircraft's LO. So they will
beg, mewl and demand GBU-38/39 and well will likely give it to them so that they can copy and sell onwards those munitions as well.
HOWEVER; by laying claim to an 'urgent need to exploit existing stocks of local weapons' the Israelis can get access to software object and source
codes. While, by inserting their own interfaces, they can deny U.S. rights to access and check the (Lavi to China) status of these systems.
Which is of course (just like Britain and her ties to EADS) why we shouldn't give them a single jet.
As long as we hold Israel and her Neighbors apart, the technology spiral will only get more dangerous folks. If we let Israel finish the fight they
picked by _illegally_ creating a Zionist State in Palestine, they will either get their clocks cleaned or 'solve' our Arab/Muslim problem for us.
Either way, we should not continue to let them suck us dry just so that they feel safe enough to sell our toys to China and India and and and.
Intelgurl is dead on correct. For what little they give us, the Israelis fulfill the very worst stereotype of what it is to be 'Jewed'.
Manipulated. Sold Out. Used until we are too weak to be worth their time and trouble.
Bad as I hate the F-35 I would rather not give them away to that kind of self-interested city state.