What are they watching YOU for??

Originally posted by Keltoi

Originally posted by annestacey
This whole idea of everyone carrying guns to defend themselves reminds me of the Mad Max movies. Of course for me, it would be more like "Tank Girl". What if you can be trusted with a gun but your neighbor can't? Whose to say he's not gonna get drunk and start firing at pedestrians?

You make me sick

NWO pawn!

Oh yes I am a member of the New Woman Organization. It's too bad you don't like women but we appreciate you coming out of the closet.

Originally posted by Keltoi
You make me sick

NWO pawn!

MMMMMMM!! prawns


Seriously Keltio.. are you in need of help?? You come across as seriously paraniod..

What is it about you that they could be watching? Are you a secret superhero or a double agent perhaps?

Why would a N.W.O be so detrimental to your existence?

Is it just me or are some of you ok with having your most intimate and personal moments violated? I apologize, but does it require specifics of what the government watches you do? Some of it is just SICK. The government records just about, if not everything in some way-shape-or-form.

I have a suspicion they use other forms of technology, maybe even remote viewing, if not cameras, to record peoples daily lives, in home and out. Computer activity, phones, even cell phones, perhaps, are, at least in my opinion, monitored. Also I would go as far to express my opinion that in some places home activity is monitored.

I heared about a big brother (the show) episode of people having sex and also in the same show they had cameras in the BATHROOM. That is SICK. I'm sorry for ranting, I just feel the need to express what they are videotaping in some cases (Not just reality TV) which is just too disturbing.

I personally wouldn't be comfortable having people watch me shower and use the restroom, amongst other things that some people are subject to and more people are likely to be subject to those same personal violations.

Again, Everything I express is my opinion and personal knowledge...Hmm.. **Will put that in her signature**

Thank you all for your time. I wish you all well.

~Keiya

Originally posted by Keiya
I personally wouldn't be comfortable having people watch me shower and use the restroom, amongst other things...

He He ..aren,t full stops great for deliberately mis-quoting someone.

Anyway. Yeah I,d be a bit put out if people were videoing me on the crapper
BUT...The surveillance that I,m really referring to is public cctv,s in public places.


In the home is private time.In public I think people you have to apply a bit of consideration to others before you engage in anything that might warrant ''spying on'' anyhoo... or at least find a densely foliated bush to do it in

Originally posted by LoneGunMan

Originally posted by interestedalways
Someone else is not responsible for my behaviour, I am responsible. If I am causing others harm it will be brought into the open, no one needs to spy on me to catch me doing something. If in fact our prison population has doubled since 1985 that tells me that something isn't working in our justice system. The word Justice means a wrong being righted. I do not participate in activities that require justice to be administered. I do not like being watched by cameras. I don't pay taxes to buy a "big brother" I pay taxes to be protected and served.

If I had a WATS vote left you would have it for this post!

Well, I do have one to give, so allow me.

You have voted interestedalways for the Way Above Top Secret award. You have two more votes this month.

I apologize if I misquoted you. I meant to give an opinion on surviellance that came to mind and not to quote anyone. I shouldn't go off into my own topic I guess.

I'm sorry about any misunderstandings. I'm new to using forums, this is my third post on a forum(the previous was the first that has been responded to)

Please clue me in on any mistakes I make.

I hope to learn how to properly respond to posts and have learned now (Which it was obvious, how dumb of me.) that I shouldn't bring up similar yet unrelated opinions and observations.

If I've made any mistakes in this one as well I would like to be informed.

Thanks for pointing out my conveying mistakes and for your time.

Take care.

~Keiya

Originally posted by Keltoi
CCTV much like the bar's on prison window's exist not to keep you safe but to remind you of your captive state.They are the eye's of the police state,a tool for mass surveilance.I question the intelligence of anyone that think they are there "for public safety".If the technology existed in the 1940s I have no doubt nazi Germany would have erected millions of them.

[edit on 29/10/06 by Keltoi]

And while I'm at it, this post gets my second WATS.

You have voted Keltoi for the Way Above Top Secret award. You have one more vote left for this month.

Cameras have no place in a society that 'calls' itself FREE!

Free to be watched at all times even though you've done nothing to warrant it?

NO!
.

Keiya

No.. you did nothing wrong.. I meant my quote from you above.. a few dots changed the meaning completely..
Just for fun

It,s nice of you to be so polite anyway. Kudos to you.
Anyone,s views are welcome anyway even if they completely contradict my own.
I don,t know why but I just feel no threat whatsoever when I,m out and about..

Maybe I is a saint.

[edit on 3-11-2006 by AGENT_T]

Originally posted by AGENT_T
I really don,t understand why people are so freaked out by surviellance cameras etc..

NOTICE to all camera shy or paranoid people...

DON"T MOVE TO LAS VEGAS.... the place is infested with them

Also remember that most of these monitors are manned by extremely bored unqualified guys who couldn,t care less if you have a clandestine meeting with a member of the opposite sex,take a pee in a doorway etc..

Actually MOST cameras go to tape machines and are only viewed if there is a problem... that goes for most of the traffic cams on every major cross street... [just look up at the light frames...] store security cameras... etc.

Here in Vegas the ones that are watched closely are the cameras pointed on the dealers! They are the biggest crooks LOL

Even banks merely record...

Now if you plan to charge up to an FBI building or something, you can bet "THEY" are watching

Originally posted by ThePieMaN
Maybe right now there isn't face recognition software but who knows later what can happen.

Wanna bet? Been to a security convention lately?

Just try getting on the bad side of a casino here in Vegas and see if that software is any good LOL

Originally posted by Keiya

Please clue me in on any mistakes I make.

~Keiya

Did you make mistakes or simply extrapolate this out to the future? We are being slowly led I believe to this point. It may take another generation of kids watching big brother and other forms of reality TV. It will take a generation brought up on publicly being surveyed, being searched at school, having to pee in a cup at school, and letting the TV think for them so the critical thinking portion of the brain atrophies.

I can see a future, 20 years from now. People will say, I am not doing anything wrong, they need to have surveillance in all homes to catch the criminals.


It is "A Brave New World" isnt it?

Originally posted by Keiya
Is it just me or are some of you ok with having your most intimate and personal moments violated? I apologize, but does it require specifics of what the government watches you do? Some of it is just SICK. The government records just about, if not everything in some way-shape-or-form.

I have a suspicion they use other forms of technology, maybe even remote viewing, if not cameras, to record peoples daily lives, in home and out. Computer activity, phones, even cell phones, perhaps, are, at least in my opinion, monitored. Also I would go as far to express my opinion that in some places home activity is monitored.

I heared about a big brother (the show) episode of people having sex and also in the same show they had cameras in the BATHROOM. That is SICK. I'm sorry for ranting, I just feel the need to express what they are videotaping in some cases (Not just reality TV) which is just too disturbing.

I personally wouldn't be comfortable having people watch me shower and use the restroom, amongst other things that some people are subject to and more people are likely to be subject to those same personal violations.

Again, Everything I express is my opinion and personal knowledge...Hmm.. **Will put that in her signature**

Thank you all for your time. I wish you all well.

~Keiya

Well the people in the house on the Big Brother show know they are being watched. It's a TV show. Now I'm not on a tv show that I know of so I really don't think I'm being watched. What makes you think people (who are not spies and criminals) are being watched in their homes?

You have voted zorgon for the Way Above Top Secret award. You have two more votes this month.

WATS for getting the point of the whole thread.

You know what I look at when I think I,m so famous that people notice me out of a crowd?



Then I try and picture where the heck I would be in that lot

ARRGGHHH BRAIN BURSTING

Originally posted by Keiya
Is it just me or are some of you ok with having your most intimate and personal moments violated?

Sigh.....

IF "your most intimate and personal moments violated?" then you have done something to be put on the radar that requires such surveillance. People tend to forget just how much it costs to watch someone... so unless you are worthy of watching, it just isn't happening.

The public cams are 90% of the time fed to tapes... and the tapes are only stored for a few weeks to a few months depending on the area being monitored.

If you are REALLY paranoid... it costs very little to have a professional company do a sweep of your house and phone lines to see if you are being monitored.

And if you are really up to something... take you business out of town... lots of woods, desert etc out there where there are no prying eyes... [well except maybe those high power super spy satellites in space that can read a book over your shoulder...]

Originally posted by Keltoi
If the technology existed in the 1940s I have no doubt nazi Germany would have erected millions of them.

They didn't need to... they had your kids watch you for them...

Originally posted by AGENT_T

Then I try and picture where the heck I would be in that lot

LOL Thanks!

As to where.... see that bright star on the rim at the lower left? we are close to that, but to dim to spot

Originally posted by LoneGunMan

Originally posted by Keiya

Please clue me in on any mistakes I make.

~Keiya

Did you make mistakes or simply extrapolate this out to the future? We are being slowly led I believe to this point. It may take another generation of kids watching big brother and other forms of reality TV. It will take a generation brought up on publicly being surveyed, being searched at school, having to pee in a cup at school, and letting the TV think for them so the critical thinking portion of the brain atrophies.

I can see a future, 20 years from now. People will say, I am not doing anything wrong, they need to have surveillance in all homes to catch the criminals.


It is "A Brave New World" isnt it?

To be completely honest I personally *try* to explain myself in order to be fully understood. Once I figure out how to get a signature (Again, new to using forums) I will put the fact that I *always* speak from opinion. I am smart at comprehending things, but completely retarded at explaining what I comprehend. I'm trying to learn to convey myself.

Sorry about the constant ranting. I *was* saying that for future reference and at this point in time, I do admit I have a lot of fears. Trying to heal from 19 years of brainwashing and the like isn't easy, as plenty of you may know.

I am currently in a state of revamping my beliefs and fixing my fears and I feel the need to be excessively polite because it seems like the right thing to do when first speaking with people. I'm sure once I get to know people here I'll become more laid back, but still polite.


(May I ask how I can quote more than one person in the same post?)

Thank you.

~Keiya

Originally posted by Keiya Once I figure out how to get a signature (Again, new to using forums) I will put the fact that I *always* speak from opinion.

Press the ''member centre' button at top of page

then click ''account settings'' for a range of things you can adjust quite quickly including signature

Thanks! Very much appreciated. Can anyone help me on quoting more than one person in one post please?

Anne:

In my personal opinion I think there are a good amount of cases of people who are not criminals and spies being watched in their homes.

I believe it to be people whom the government deem them either suspicious, having potential and tendencies to do things they aren't supposed to, and I might get a lot of # for saying this, but I think the government is trying to monitor specific people with "Psychic" abilities. That, I think, may(probably in my view) even be something they're doing in Area 51. Testing on people with these abilities, as well as monitoring people with them that they for some reason are brainwashing instead of capturing and using for testing.

But anyways I speak of these views because that's why I think certain people are being monitored in their homes.

Not masses of people, but enough to be worried. (I'm worried at least. Eeee..)

I might just be overly paranoid, but, then again, with how the government is I have every right to be suspicious. And it makes sense to me that specific people would be monitored if they are viewed as a threat, or perhaps even valuable.

Thanks guys sorry if I don't make sense.

~Keiya

Originally posted by interestedalways

Originally posted by doctorfungi
Put it this way. There are NO cameras in your house. If you are going to do something private - do it at home.

Really, cause in my house I am subject to the V chip in my television, wiretapping on my phone, internet spies on the computer, and even neighbors, postal workers, etc who have been required to watch for anything "unusual" and to report to Homeland Security.

I agree with that one, and for the "We're treating symptoms not the root of the problem" type statement interestedalways got a WATS vote and a LOT of respect from me.

High five interestedalways!

~Keiya