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Topic started on 20-6-2006 @ 09:26 PM by MadGreebo


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reply posted on 20-6-2006 @ 09:36 PM by Willard856


Sorry, what do you have no idea about? The aircraft type? Looks like a B2 with possibly an F-16 escort to me



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reply posted on 20-6-2006 @ 09:48 PM by MadGreebo


I meant exactly what i said.


I have no idea. The aircraft isnt a B-2 - not enough saw teeth edges - yet its pretty big in comparison to the chase plane. again...I have no idea whats so ever. Thats why I posted it -










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reply posted on 20-6-2006 @ 09:55 PM by planeman


Where/when was this taken?



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reply posted on 20-6-2006 @ 10:34 PM by MadGreebo


I retract all comments on the location and time frame this picture was taken.




Will go read a bit around the legality of said picture and taker (and where I stand posting it on web) Will repost then. Thanks.

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reply posted on 20-6-2006 @ 10:43 PM by uuhelpus


Looks like a Photoshop to me. A b-2 and a t-38



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reply posted on 20-6-2006 @ 11:00 PM by MadGreebo


www.pbase.com...

Dude, look at the size of a flaming B-2 Bomber - its absolutely bloody massive. What ever that is in the piccie is just a small fraction over the chase plane size (Agreed the area is large but the size isn't). Yes I agree its got the B-2 'shape' but theres not enough wing, theres not enough saw edges, and well, its just not big enough to be a B-2 bomber.

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users.cihost.com...

Just look at the size of the F-117 and the B-2 - The f-117 is no small plane but the B-2 dwarfs it.... sorry mate but what ever it is it is no B-2.

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reply posted on 20-6-2006 @ 11:12 PM by lilwolf


Looks to much like a B2 and a T38 to be anything different. The B2 is more than likely at a higher altitude than the T38. Could explain the size difference appearance.
The shapes are right for the two planes. The altitude is high enough you could not see sawtooths on it if you had to. The t38 is unmistakable. Nose to long (I think) for an F16.



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reply posted on 20-6-2006 @ 11:14 PM by uuhelpus


Okay, lets say its not b-2, why would it be tested in the middle of the day?
I thought you said earlier that it was taken over the Indian ocean, I doubt it would be flying from Diego Garcia, the only real base in the Indian ocean, being that the press is there on a regular basis. And with all the cargo ships that are in the area.

And lets say it wasn’t from DG, why would it be flying to Iraq or Iran? Existing airframes that are within the publics realm could gather just as much intel as this thing.



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reply posted on 20-6-2006 @ 11:14 PM by Xenophobe



Originally posted by MadGreebo
I retract all comments on the location and time frame this picture was taken.

Will go read a bit around the legality of said picture and taker (and where I stand posting it on web) Will repost then. Thanks.


MadGreebo,
Just a bit curious as to what all of the fuss was about. Worried about copyrights, aunthenticity, or what?



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reply posted on 20-6-2006 @ 11:19 PM by uuhelpus




Just look at the size of the F-117 and the B-2 - The f-117 is no small plane but the B-2 dwarfs it.... sorry mate but what ever it is it is no B-2.



Thats what I hate about these people who take pics of classified A/C, Its obvious that the person who took the pic had never taken a picture before. Hell I got great shots of airliners at 30-35k AGL taken on 35 MM at my place

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reply posted on 20-6-2006 @ 11:23 PM by Zaphod58


Uhm, the F-117 is a pretty small plane.


Length: 65 feet, 11 inches

Height: 12 feet, 5 inches

Weight: 52,500 pounds

Wingspan: 43 feet, 4 inches

www.lowobservable.com...

65 feet isn't that big for a plane. It's barely bigger than an F-15. The Eagle comes in at 63 feet long and a 42 foot wingspan.



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reply posted on 20-6-2006 @ 11:26 PM by MadGreebo


Xenephobe, authenticity no problem, copyright no worries either. person took it is still in area working. thats the problem.


oh and I agree - piccie would be better taken by a pro, but their not a pro - rofl far from it.



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reply posted on 20-6-2006 @ 11:40 PM by Xenophobe


Ok, thanks for clearing that up.

The image is interesting, it is clearly not a B-2, possibly a variant of some sort. The image doesn't look faked either, it could be - but it doesn't look to be. It's difficult to tell with the artifacts induced by the jpeg compression.

Would it be possible to get a non-jpegged copy of the image, such as a hi-res .bmp?

TIA,
Xeno



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reply posted on 21-6-2006 @ 12:44 AM by Willard856


I still stick by the B2, depending on aspect, the jigsaw shape can be hidden, though it may also be a variant, or testing of a new IR suppression device maybe? Or photoshopped. It is definitely the right size. It is actually surprising how small the F-117 and B-2 are when you see them in the flesh. I always pictured them as much bigger.



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reply posted on 21-6-2006 @ 04:49 AM by waynos


Please can I get to see this picture? I'd like to apply my ID skills to it if I can?



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reply posted on 21-6-2006 @ 08:04 AM by gfad


Now you've got me curious!

I want to see the photo now too! How soon till you can post it MadGreebo?



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reply posted on 21-6-2006 @ 08:43 AM by uuhelpus


Heres the image
Rehosted.



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reply posted on 21-6-2006 @ 09:01 AM by Zion Mainframe


I don't know if this version ever flew, but the B-2 used to have a different rear end:


www.globalsecurity.org...


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reply posted on 21-6-2006 @ 09:12 AM by gfad


You're right it's ridiculous to argue over size as there is nothing to use as a reference. The chase plane could be at any altitude.

Also, looking at it in photoshop I can't see any evidence of any editing but with a photo of so little detail it wouldn't be hard to fake it.

Assuming that its not a fake, FAS has this image on it's website but doesn't give any additional information. The image suggests that at some point during it's development the B-2 went through a redesign for some reason or another, changing the sawtooth design from one identical to that in the image to the actual B-2 design. Yet this design change could have occured after windtunnel tests or at least early in the development and there is no evidence to suggest that a model ever flew with this sawtooth pattern.



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