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reply posted on 16-10-2009 @ 11:07 AM by impaired
reply to post by justaquestion
You would never get the money in your hand. DoD would be on your butt before you could get any further.
You would never get the money in your hand. DoD would be on your butt before you could get any further.
reply posted on 16-10-2009 @ 11:26 AM by Regenstorm
reply to post by justaquestion
It isn't a matter of money but a matter of mankind. If you disclose the evidence properly, you'll earn money anyway. If I were you I would contact as many none state organisations, reporters and people that are involved in UFO research to give them the opportunity to study and release the evidence.
You could meet up with them first, blindfold them and than lead them to the evidence.
It isn't a matter of money but a matter of mankind. If you disclose the evidence properly, you'll earn money anyway. If I were you I would contact as many none state organisations, reporters and people that are involved in UFO research to give them the opportunity to study and release the evidence.
You could meet up with them first, blindfold them and than lead them to the evidence.
reply posted on 27-5-2010 @ 12:13 AM by rusethorcain
reply to post by Springer
This is why I love ATS. Practical and efficient.
I think you people have a very fair and no non-sense approach, (speaking as someone who has been banned from the site) and courtesy is mandatory. It sort of keeps things on more of an adult level.
I had to read many posts before I learned the knack of disagreeing with someone without resorting to the oh so tempting character assaults.
Now I have to leave threads without returning to look at responses. I will not allow an unfavorable response to one of my comments draw me into a personal argument. Won't let strangers push buttons and I have some buttons as sensitive as a kittens whiskers.
This is why I love ATS. Practical and efficient.
I think you people have a very fair and no non-sense approach, (speaking as someone who has been banned from the site) and courtesy is mandatory. It sort of keeps things on more of an adult level.
I had to read many posts before I learned the knack of disagreeing with someone without resorting to the oh so tempting character assaults.
Now I have to leave threads without returning to look at responses. I will not allow an unfavorable response to one of my comments draw me into a personal argument. Won't let strangers push buttons and I have some buttons as sensitive as a kittens whiskers.
reply posted on 4-6-2010 @ 02:02 PM by harleyd20
For what it's worth.
A MUFON field investigator reports UFO's turning into fake plane's.
www.earthfiles333.com...
A MUFON field investigator reports UFO's turning into fake plane's.
www.earthfiles333.com...
reply posted on 16-8-2010 @ 02:35 PM by kyle43
reply to post by Indefaticable
It is something you just have to get passed, and if there is a poster you really get annoyed with, use the ignore, I know I have many people who add nothing but negativity ignored.
it seems like the moderators don't have any intention of doing much about the obvious mud slinging arena that is the UFO forum
The new Greer and Hoagland is evidence enough, posting throughout the thread that it shouldn't even be discussed because they are "money grabbing charlatans". Little discussion actually is taking place because there is a select few who have been on the offensive the whole time derailing discussion.
Yes, responding to an honest question about disclosure with something like "who cares because Greer and Hoag are frauds", is what I consider derailing, even more so because almost every inquiry to the video has been met by something similar to this.
Id really to know what the mods like to think on this, because it is so out of hand, you want to be a skeptic, fine, you don't wanna believe them and think they are frauds, fine. But when 75 % of each page is filled with the same thing, which has NOTHING to do with the topic at hand it gets rather annoying.
If the mods really think that 18 pages of "Fraud and charlatan" from the same people, are stimulating intelligent discussion than I'd like to know why.
It is something you just have to get passed, and if there is a poster you really get annoyed with, use the ignore, I know I have many people who add nothing but negativity ignored.
it seems like the moderators don't have any intention of doing much about the obvious mud slinging arena that is the UFO forum
The new Greer and Hoagland is evidence enough, posting throughout the thread that it shouldn't even be discussed because they are "money grabbing charlatans". Little discussion actually is taking place because there is a select few who have been on the offensive the whole time derailing discussion.
Yes, responding to an honest question about disclosure with something like "who cares because Greer and Hoag are frauds", is what I consider derailing, even more so because almost every inquiry to the video has been met by something similar to this.
Id really to know what the mods like to think on this, because it is so out of hand, you want to be a skeptic, fine, you don't wanna believe them and think they are frauds, fine. But when 75 % of each page is filled with the same thing, which has NOTHING to do with the topic at hand it gets rather annoying.
If the mods really think that 18 pages of "Fraud and charlatan" from the same people, are stimulating intelligent discussion than I'd like to know why.
reply posted on 16-8-2010 @ 03:34 PM by Springer
reply to post by kyle43
When the purveyors of the tale, or, the source of topic ARE known hoaxers, BS artists, etc... what do you expect?
How would you respond to a thread about ethics, human kindness and compassion that was sourced from Joseph Stalin?
I know that's an extreme analogy but the point stands...
The two fellows in question have consistently spewed the most ridiculous tripe, utterly false "predictions" and assumptions, presented terrible fakes as images of "Alien Ships", up to an including MOTHS, rock formations on Mars and charged people money for their wares.
Summing the above up what else would you call them? Why would anything they present be worthy of discussion?
Springer...
When the purveyors of the tale, or, the source of topic ARE known hoaxers, BS artists, etc... what do you expect?
How would you respond to a thread about ethics, human kindness and compassion that was sourced from Joseph Stalin?
I know that's an extreme analogy but the point stands...
The two fellows in question have consistently spewed the most ridiculous tripe, utterly false "predictions" and assumptions, presented terrible fakes as images of "Alien Ships", up to an including MOTHS, rock formations on Mars and charged people money for their wares.
Summing the above up what else would you call them? Why would anything they present be worthy of discussion?
Springer...
reply posted on 16-8-2010 @ 07:40 PM by kyle43
reply to post by Springer
Then why even allow the discussion? By allowing ridicule, insults, and sarcasm throught the whole thread, from the same group mind you, you are allowing the topic to not have any hope of getting discussed. Just because someone is a "proven" liar, which in reality we all are, doesn't mean the things he speaks about are also 100 % false. Can you really say that they don't make any interesting connections? The crop circles of the schematics of Mars, then Fox coming out with a "new picture" of Mars that day is pretty damn interesting.
Having the same thing posted over and over does nothing, ATS wonders why there is so much hate. I have an idea for this, because ATS allows the skeptics to be downright jerks. Like I said before, being a skeptic is one thing, but having an intelligent conversation is another.
It isn't about "Greer and Hoagland" being known liars. That isn't what its about and truthfully I'm sure a lot of what they have said is a bunch of bull but they also have said a lot of thought provoking things. And another thing that many people never want to bring up with Greer is that he had how many credible sources confirm many of the things he talks about?
It is about people wanting to have the honor of derailing the thread because they have nothing else to add. What if I came to everyone of your threads spamming that you are not to be trusted because you are a mason (I dont know if you are) or because ATS is a "phys op" operation. Will I be banned or will I be aloud to go for 20 + pages literally spamming that you shouldnt be trusted for whatever reason. I can understand, I really can, the reasons why people say he shouldn't be trusted, and you know what, he shouldn't. But even he deserves to have his ideas discussed. The saddest part is that no one interested in the things they say got to have any worthwhile discussion because a few rascals took it upon themselves to be the holy crusaders of ATS, slaying down followers of ignorance. Give me a break...because at that point it is doing more harm than good.
Whats next, are you going to tell me who I should listen to and who is worthy of actual intellectual conversation? Sounds much like Stalin to me...
Then why even allow the discussion? By allowing ridicule, insults, and sarcasm throught the whole thread, from the same group mind you, you are allowing the topic to not have any hope of getting discussed. Just because someone is a "proven" liar, which in reality we all are, doesn't mean the things he speaks about are also 100 % false. Can you really say that they don't make any interesting connections? The crop circles of the schematics of Mars, then Fox coming out with a "new picture" of Mars that day is pretty damn interesting.
Having the same thing posted over and over does nothing, ATS wonders why there is so much hate. I have an idea for this, because ATS allows the skeptics to be downright jerks. Like I said before, being a skeptic is one thing, but having an intelligent conversation is another.
It isn't about "Greer and Hoagland" being known liars. That isn't what its about and truthfully I'm sure a lot of what they have said is a bunch of bull but they also have said a lot of thought provoking things. And another thing that many people never want to bring up with Greer is that he had how many credible sources confirm many of the things he talks about?
It is about people wanting to have the honor of derailing the thread because they have nothing else to add. What if I came to everyone of your threads spamming that you are not to be trusted because you are a mason (I dont know if you are) or because ATS is a "phys op" operation. Will I be banned or will I be aloud to go for 20 + pages literally spamming that you shouldnt be trusted for whatever reason. I can understand, I really can, the reasons why people say he shouldn't be trusted, and you know what, he shouldn't. But even he deserves to have his ideas discussed. The saddest part is that no one interested in the things they say got to have any worthwhile discussion because a few rascals took it upon themselves to be the holy crusaders of ATS, slaying down followers of ignorance. Give me a break...because at that point it is doing more harm than good.
Whats next, are you going to tell me who I should listen to and who is worthy of actual intellectual conversation? Sounds much like Stalin to me...
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