Who has the Highest Interpretation of the Bible?

Those who think in numerals or those who think in words? Words are so vague, I believe those who think in numbers do. It is a disgrace that people who interpret the Bible in words write 200-1000 page books and profit off it without providing any real spiritual meaning.

There is only one perfect and real interpretation of the Bible and that is God's.

How can you interpret a language-based text in numerals?

Are you suggesting that "God's interpretation" is naturally related to numbers in some way? Are numbers somehow less human than spoken language?

If we search to interpret the Bible it seems we must see it for what it is: a compiled series of texts claiming (among other things) that if you do not believe its claims you will fry in Hell. From there, isn't it a bit presumptuous to interpret that there is a God, as described in the Bible, much less that he himself might be able to interpret (i.e. God can have an opinion?!?!)? This poses another problem. If God could have an opinion, could we ever know it?

Seems to me that the only interpretation we will ever have access to is our own. The closest we humans, locked forever inside our own minds, can get to someone else's interpretation is the other person's description of it--and even that is verbal and must be interpreted into concepts.

So, while we can read someone else's ideas and call our impressions of what we've read "their interpretation", it is really only our perception of it (perhaps the other person in question is an idiot or irrational).

Thus, I would submit that Your interpretation is the ONLY interpretation you can ever access and the all-important.

Originally posted by GreatTech
Those who think in numerals or those who think in words?

Why judge? Each has it's merits and neither is complete...both are imperfect....

It is a disgrace that people who interpret the Bible in words write 200-1000 page books and profit off it without providing any real spiritual meaning.

More of a shame that someone would buy it. :shk:

Originally posted by GreatTech
There is only one perfect and real interpretation of the Bible and that is God's.

Wich you dont happen to know what it is

Who has the Highest Interpretation of the Bible?

Our Innermost Consciousness, or our own Individual Father which is in Heaven.

This is why in Gnosis it is stressed that we start by studying Kabbalah(the Science of Numbers), stop fornicating and renounce vain desires, and learn how to meditate(it is taught that God's voice is heard when the mind is in silence).

Because only Gomer Oz Dabar's interpretation is correct.

According to all esoteric systems(including the Hebrew) G.O.D. is Within.


The majority of the modern day interpretations of the Pastors, Priests and clergy in general, are based on blind-faith(Pharisees) and sectarian fanaticism(Sadducees).

The run-of-the-mill 'new age' interpretations aren't any better either, as they are usually channeled(Masters and Angels don't contact ordinary mediums) or are merely based on fantastical dreams.

What we need is to work hard, right here right now, as to awaken Consciousness and "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. - Matthew 5:48"

This is only possible through the guidance of the Intimate Christ combined with our Individual super efforts.


All authentic scriptures were written to be understood by the Initiated(the Consciousness), not the profane(the egotistical mind).





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Originally posted by Tamahu
This is why in Gnosis it is stressed that we start by studying Kabbalah(the Science of Numbers), stop fornicating and renounce vain desires, and learn how to meditate(it is taught that God's voice is heard when the mind is in silence).

Tamahu, Thanks for the post. Very interesting stuff.

Your ideas seem very familiar to me, though I've studied Buddhism much more than Gnostic ideas. The quieting of the mind in order to obtain insight is a critical concept in Vispassana meditation, and I know that it is true.

Would you care to expand a bit with regards to your recommendations of Kabbalah study (any favorite authors or exgeses)? Also, how will studying "The Science of Numbers" help one to quiet his or her mind in meditation?

Cheers,

Originally posted by Tamahu
Because only Gomer Oz Dabar's interpretation is correct.

Its a nice analogy, but what if you try to spell GOD in other languages ?

Originally posted by PeaceBeWithYou
Tamahu, Thanks for the post. Very interesting stuff.

Your ideas seem very familiar to me, though I've studied Buddhism much more than Gnostic ideas. The quieting of the mind in order to obtain insight is a critical concept in Vispassana meditation, and I know that it is true.

Would you care to expand a bit with regards to your recommendations of Kabbalah study (any favorite authors or exgeses)? Also, how will studying "The Science of Numbers" help one to quiet his or her mind in meditation?

Cheers,

Greetings PeaceBeWithYou


One of my biggest sources of inspiration is the Gnostic Master Samael Aun Weor.

But I also study Shetaut Neter/Metu Neter and all four main schools of Tibetan Buddhism.

You may find the following online course helpful in regards to Shamatha and Vipassana:

Meditation

Introduction to Gnostic Meditation
Gnostic Meditation 1: Vigilance
Gnostic Meditation 2: Calm Abiding(Shamatha)
Gnostic Meditation 3: Concentration
Gnostic Meditation 4: Mental Discipline
Gnostic Meditation 5: Vipassana and Clairvoyance
Gnostic Meditation 6: Imagination, Inspiration and Intuition
Gnostic Meditation 7: The Foundation

And regarding the Science of Numbers or Kabbalah...

It is the same thing as Buddhist Cosmology(see Vasubandhu and Jamgon Kongtrul), just in an apparently different arrangement.

From what I understand it is an intellectual tool, for one not to get lost in the Internal Worlds during meditation and dream yoga(I'm just a beginner but as I said, this is just my (albeit limited)understanding); a map to the higher dimensions and Pure Lands if you will.

IMO, Kabbalah is a better introduction to Universal Cosmology, as it is easier for the intellect to grasp in the beginning, as it is more direct.

Once the basic Tree of Life(structure of the Bodhi Tree) is understood, one can move on to Buddhist Cosmology and the more advanced Kabbalistic teachings.

Of course, it is taught that meditation is always the best way to verify; but the Science of Numbers and study of the logic of Emptiness are also necessary for Right View.

Kabbalah

"The objective of studying the Kabbalah is to be skilled for work in the Internal Worlds...

One who does not comprehend remains confused in the Internal Worlds. Kabbalah is the basis in order to understand the language of these worlds." - Samael Aun Weor, The Initiatic Path in the Arcana of Tarot and Kabbalah

There are a few very excellent online courses and lectures related to Kabbalah there; and I hope they'll assist you in your efforts to awaken Consciousness and Bodhicitta.



Regards

Hi Mike Phil

Originally posted by Mike Phil

Originally posted by Tamahu
Because only Gomer Oz Dabar's interpretation is correct.

Its a nice analogy, but what if you try to spell GOD in other languages ?

G.O.D. is simply a Kabbalistic Hebrew acronym describing the main attributes of the Diety or Adam Kadmon(the Archetypal Man not fallen into sin).

Beauty(Gomer/Tiphereth) Strength(Oz/Geburah) and Wisdom(Dabar/Chokmah).

These are the Three Pillars of Ancient FreeMasonry(Gnosis).

I really doubt it's a coincidence that the Three most important Sphere's attributes of the Tree of Life happen to spell "GOD".






The Nation of Gods and Earths(and perhaps the Nation of Islam) also have a very interesting acronym for Adam Kadmon, AMEN or ALLAH, the Original Black Man(as).

Arm Leg Leg Arm Head


Reminds us of the Pentagrammaton.

The five Impressions of the Great Light are found represented within the Esoteric Pentagram.

The Gnostic Pentagram is the human figure with four limbs, and one unique apex which is the head.

The sign of the Pentagram is also called the sign of the Microcosm. It represents what the Kabbalist Rabbis of the book Zohar call the Microprosopos.

When the superior point of the Pentagram is pointing up, it represents the Saviour of the world.

When the two inferior points of the Pentagram are pointing up, it represents the male goat of the Witches’ Sabbath.

A human figure with the head pointing down obviously represents a Demon, that is to say, an intellectual subversion, disorder, or madness.

The Pentagram, which in Gnostic schools is known as the Flaming Star, is the sign of Magic omnipotence.

The five Impressions of the Great Light, and the five Helpers are contained within the Flaming Star.

The five Helpers are the five Genii: Gabriel, Raphael, Uriel, Michael, and Samael.

The entire Treasury of the Light is contained within the Pentagram and this allegorizes the Human Being...

An interesting side note; The RZA's(Wu Tang Clan) Attribute is Ruler Zig Zag Zig Allah:






Hmmm.....






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Originally posted by Mike Phil
Its a nice analogy, but what if you try to spell GOD in other languages ?

In English it is:
G ood
O rderly
D irection

Yes, God is within each of us, but seeking comes by only one path--which any one of us can travel.

The way to God is not through the mind (for there dwells both imagination and delusion, children of the ego) but through the heart (by loving someone else as much as we love ourselves).

First we seek (love another besides ourself)
Then we come upon the door (love another more than self)
And only then can we knock (give of self to another with no thought of recompense, including love reciprocated)

There is absolutely, positively, no other possible route to God's door...the only way your ego won't trip you up....for it avoids that path at all costs....it is ego's last mile.

Hi queenannie38

Enter by the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many.

For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few. - Matthew 7:13

We should also remember that to walk this Path, all three brains(head, heart and sex/body) need to be in equilibrium.


Yes, the Heart is the most important...

We must search for the Divine Mother within our Heart Temple. The Cross of the Initiation is received within the Temple of the Heart. - Samael Aun Weor

...because without the Heart, there's no Bodhicitta; and without Bodhicitta there is no way for Christ to descend within our Hearts.

The Three Demons/Traitors

In the Head we have the Demon of the Mind, distorting the Father's energy in order to satisfy the appetites we have in our ego. This demon is the opposite of the Father who is Truth.

The Christ is the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

The most beautiful atoms always manifest in the Son.

Christ said, "I am the Truth, the Light and the Way."

To incarnate the Truth we have to have a balanced mind, but when we want the Truth through the Intellect, without experiencing the Light, we develop the Anti-Christ, the intellect under the service of the ego, materialism.

The Creative Ray of Light from above, in all the worlds, that shines in every Angel, every part of the universe, is the Truth, but we disconnect from the Truth, Light, and only see through our personal ego: Anti-Christ.

The "den" of the Anti-Christ is in the intellect.

Intelligence under the service of the Father is embodied in the Angel, the prophet, eg. Master Jesus, with an Illuminated intellect.

But when the intellect is not under the service of the Father, the intellect becomes the Anti-Christ.

There are many Anti-Christs: in the mind of every person.

We deny Divinity, mock Divinity.

There are many levels among intellectuals, but when a person develops psychic Powers for the ego (pride, Vanity, lust, Fear, etc.), that person becomes a demon...

The Son is Chokmah, and not just Jesus, but also Vishnu/Krishna and Avalokitesvara/Chenrezi the Buddha of Compassion.






He invites us to Work with the Three Factors for the Revolution of the Consciousness!


1) Birth(of the Solar Bodies through Chaste Sex/White Tantra/Alchemy, which are only born according to the merits of the Heart. To be Born Again.)

2) Death(of the egos).

3) Sacrifice for Humanity(Bodhicitta, The Law of The Christ).



However, even though the Heart is the crux of our developement, we still can't ignore the intellect and body.

Intellect "Two types of intellect exist: 1. The commonly known sensual intellect. 2. The intellect which is given by the Being; this is a conscious intellect." - The Revolution of the Dialectic

The common sensual or subjective intellect is the capacity of reasoning and comparing (see Intellectual Animal). Related to the Intellectual Brain or Center, and to the physical brain.

"The intellect is a very precious instrument for the Great Work of the Father, when it is absolutely used for the pure service of the Spirit. A mystic without intellect fails because of lack of culture (see Intellectual Culture). The intellect is satanic when it is used for the service of the internal beast. The intellectual villains (cynics and skeptics) are the result of intellectualism without spirituality." - The Aquarian Message

"The intellect never attains Initiation. Only the heart attains the Golgotha of the High Initiation. The majority of people have their heads filled with absurd theories and ancestral prejudices; they do not open their minds to anything new." - The Revolution of Beelzebub


Intellectual Culture A complete and comprehensive intellectual understanding of the many aspects of the Path of Initiation.

"To possess an intellectual culture is necessary for the development of clairvoyance. To have an intellectual discipline is necessary for the development of the latent powers, chakras, discs, magnetic wheels of the Astral Body." - Endocrinology & Criminology

"In order to develop positive clairvoyance, it is required to practice the necessary esoteric exercises and to study the best authors of Theosophy, Rosicrucianism, Yoga, Psychology, etc., etc. Our worst enemy is ignorance; therefore, we recommend our readers study the great works of the female Master Helena Petrovna Blavatsky, entitled The Secret Doctrine. We also recommend Kundalini Yoga of Sivananda, the books of Dr. Arnold Krumm-Heller, the books of Dr. Adoum, the books of Rudolf Steiner, etc., etc." - Endocrinology & Criminology

"Every esoterist student must have discipline and intellectual culture. The occultist without discipline and intellectual culture converts himself into a delinquent." - Endocrinology & Criminology

It is taught that we need psychological equilibrium in all three brains, as all three are useful for the Path of Self Realization to free All Sentient Beings from suffering.

The Twelfth Commandment

...In order to acquire or enter into wisdom one needs to perform the Eleventh Arcanum, the Arcanum of Persuasion. One needs not to exercise violence but persuasion, and persuasion (A-Himsa; nonviolence) is that attitude through which we attain what we want through the laws of God, by comprehending the laws of God inside of ourselves and transforming the infra-consciousness, sub-consciousness, and un-consciousness, into consciousness – to awaken through the Holy Denying (Chokmah). Persuasion is the way that we tame the Lion, which is the Fire and the Law of Karma, to enter into the wisdom. That is why we have the three factors because we have to defeat the Lion in different stages, in order to see the Light. Therefore we have to work.





The First Mystery is the First Commandment, and everything is hidden in the First Commandment; if we want to go ahead in this work we have to work with the First Commandment everyday;


"To love God with all our head, heart and strength."


The three brains have to be controlled by the consciousness, which is the soul.

As we awaken we enter into the knowledge of God, this is how we know what God is within ourselves...

In a nutshell, basically what you said.




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Nous Atom

A spiritual atom located in the left ventricle of the heart. This atom is also called the Master Atom and is directly related with the Christ.

"As we have already stated in our book entitled “The Perfect Matrimony or The Door to Enter into Initiation,” the heart of the Sun is constructed like the heart of our human organism. Just as Seven Hierarchs exist in the Sun, who direct the seven cosmic rays, seven brains exist in our heart which belong to the Seven Great Cosmic Hierarchies. The sun has an atomic central nucleus, which is the Atom Nous, and this atom is the dwelling of Brahma within us. This atom is the first vital center which functions in the fetus and also the last atom which stops living in our organism. This atom contains the mind, life, energy and will power of the human being. It has an opal-like luminous aura which irradiates and shines." - From The Revolution of Beelzebub.

For more information, read The Dayspring of Youth by M.

Master M:. also refers to the Nous Atom as (slightly paraphrased perhaps)"The Master Mason of the Human Body".

Originally posted by queenannie38
G ood
O rderly
D irection

Nice.

The highest interpretation of the Bible is to grasp what this means.



John 3:[16] For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
[17] For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.



[edit on 21-6-2006 by dbrandt]

Originally posted by dbrandt
The highest interpretation of the Bible is to grasp what this means.
John 3:[16] For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
[17] For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

To understand that is to exhibit that same love and compassion to every other soul you meet. It is something that shows just like a lamp in the darkest of nights.

But I disagree with you, for I know that the main point of all those 66 books lies in just two sentences.

Love God with all your heart, and mind, and soul.
Love your neighbor as yourself.

All the rest is detail and means nothing if first these ideas aren't experienced.

Not only the law and the prophets rest on these commandments, but the very fabric of the universe is love manifested in both warp and weave. God's love is all there is--without that there would be no question to ask and no one to ask it....

Because
love = truth = light = energy

Greetings dbrandt


According to Gnosis, that passage from John is referring to us(any Initiate) incarnating the energy of the Son(Chokmah), to create the Solar Astral Body(Hod), as to be free of the mechanical return to Samsara.

This is the Anagamin Initiation of Buddhism.


To the Gnostics, there is a distinction bewtween belief, and Conscious Solar Faith; the latter of which comes from walking the Path and living truth at any given cross-roads.

When we read "believe" in any scripture, it is symbolic.

Yes there is literal belief at first; but Faith has to be built more and more as we walk the Path in scientific chastity(it is taught that real Faith comes from the proper channeling of the sexual fire, daily selfless action, and from daily meditation).


The Gospels are Alchemical/Tantric and Kabbalistic texts written as manuals for the Initiates to comprehend:

Eighth Sephirah – Hod

Virtue - Veracity


"You shall not lie" – this commandment is related with the Word – one lies through the uttered word which is the expression of the heart, “Hod.”

We now enter into the Sephirah Hod – Glory – related with the emotional center and with the Astral Body that we have to build.

That (Astral Fire in Hod) is the true Light, which lightest every man that cometh into the world. - John 1:9

And the Word (in the Astral Light) was made flesh (in the Astral Body), and dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory (Hod), the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace (Solar Astral Fire) and truth. - John 1:14

For God (the Ain Soph Aur) so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son (the Solar Light), that whosoever believeth in him (and transmutes him through Scientific Chastity) should not perish, but have everlasting life (in Hod, the Eternity).

For God (the Ain Soph Aur) sent not his Son (the Solar Light) into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

He that believeth on him (and transmutes him through Scientific Chastity) is not condemned: but he that believeth not (the fornicator) is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name (or the Verb that lies low, waiting within the Seed of every genre) of the only begotten (Chokmah, the Solar Cosmic Christ, the) Son of (the Ain Soph Aur) God.

And this is the condemnation, that (the Solar) Light is come (to coagulate) into the (the seed of every genre of the) world, and men (instead) loved (the fornication from) darkness rather than (the) light (from scientific chastity), because their deeds were evil.

For every one that doeth evil (lies and) hates the (astral) light, neither cometh to the light (of Hod), lest his deeds should be reproved.

But he that does truth (by means of the control of his negative emotions) comes to the light (of Hod), that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God (the Truth). - John 3


But the hour comes, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

God is (the Solar) Spirit (that manifests as light in Hod): and they that worship him must worship him (by means of the Atom Nous within the heart) in spirit and in truth. - John 4


The Atom Nous says: “…I am a king (atom). To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the (heart of the) world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth hears my voice. - John 18:37

Arcanum 8 - Justice





...And no man has ascended up to (supernal life in) heaven, but he (the Ray of Okidanokh) that came down from heaven (through the letter “Vav” into the waters of Yesod, sexual glands), even (the Ruach Elohim) the Son of Man (Shaddai El Chai) which is (El-Shaddai) in heaven.

And as Moses lifted up the serpent (Ida, Ob, Zain) in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man (Shaddai El Chai, the life-power of the Ruach Elohim, the Messiah hidden within the waters of Yesod) be lifted up: That whosoever believes (hold dear, hook, love, connect) in him should not perish, but have eternal life (which is supernal life).

For Iod-Havah Elohim so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son (the Ruach Elohim to hover in the waters of Yesod), that whosoever believes (hold dear, hook, love, connect) in him should not perish, but have everlasting life (which is supernal life); for Iod-Havah Elohim sent not his Son (his Ruach Elohim, Shaddai El Chai, to hover) into (the waters of) the world (of Yesod) to condemn the world (of Malkuth); but that the (souls of the) world (of Malkuth) through him (through his ascension or fiery manifestation in their spinal column) might be saved.

He that believes (hold dear, hook, love, connect) on him is not condemned (to the second death in Klipoth): but he that believes not (that does not hold dear, do not hook, do not love, do not connect in him) is condemned (to the second death) already, because he has not believed in the name (the word in potentiality) of the only begotten Son of God (the Ruach Elohim, Shaddai El Chai that moves upon the sexual waters of Yesod).

And this is the condemnation, that the light (of the Ain Soph Aur) is come into the world (of Yesod, Sexual Glands), and men loved darkness (lewdness) rather than light (of scientific Chastity), because their (sexual) deeds were evil (bestial).

For every one that does evil (who experiences the filthy orgasm, the abominable spasm of the fornicators) hates the light (of Christ in Shaddai El Chai), neither comes to the light (of Christ in the Sephiroth above), lest his deeds (Kamaduro and Karmasaya that are sins against the Holy Spirit or El-Shaddai) should be reproved; but he that does truth (who transmute the sexual force of Shaddai El Chai) come to the light (through their spinal column), that his (sexual) deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. - John 3

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Originally posted by queenannie38
To understand that is to exhibit that same love and compassion to every other soul you meet. It is something that shows just like a lamp in the darkest of nights.

But I disagree with you, for I know that the main point of all those 66 books lies in just two sentences.

Love God with all your heart, and mind, and soul.
Love your neighbor as yourself.

All the rest is detail and means nothing if first these ideas aren't experienced.

Not only the law and the prophets rest on these commandments, but the very fabric of the universe is love manifested in both warp and weave. God's love is all there is--without that there would be no question to ask and no one to ask it....

Because
love = truth = light = energy

Do you study Gnosis queenannie?

Not only do your interpretations sound similiar, but some of the specific words you use as well...



In my last post in this thread, I quoted from Arcanum 11 of the Gnostic Tarot, which spoke about the Greatest Commandment that comes before all others.

More in relation to what you said about Love and the weaving of the fabric of the Universe:

The Eleventh Commandment




Perform what is thy duty.

The first paragraph of Pistis Sophia textually states:

Jesus hitherto instructed his disciples only up to the regions of the first mystery.

The First Mystery is Kether, the Father of all the Lights, who is related with the First Commandment.

The First Commandment is related to Kether; because the Willpower of Kether, the Will of God is to perform the Great Work, to perform his duty. That is why the Eleventh Commandment says "Do thy duty" or "Do thy obligation." As Monads we are obligated to Self-realise ourselves – that is precisely the reason of creation, of existence, why we have come into this physical world.

The reason of the whole universe to be is precisely to Self-realise our Beings. In other words, God, our Monad, wants to awaken, wants to Self-realise himself, wants to perform His own obligation, which is to awaken, to give a reason, a meaning to creation, or to give meaning to Himself.

We know that we are the lower part of Kether in this physical world. If we want our own particular Kether, our own Monad to perform His duty we have to feel that that duty is also our own duty.

This is the Eleventh Arcanum – "Do thy own duty" - the Self-realisation of the Being.

But no one can perform that Eleventh Commandment, which is related with the Eleventh Arcanum, if one does not know anything about sexual alchemy, “Daath,” or about the Lion of the Law of Karma.

The Virgin that is controlling the jaws of the lion is the Divine Mother Kundalini that we have to awaken in each one of us through “Daath.”

Pistis Sophia states:

It came to pass, when Jesus had risen from the dead, that he passed eleven years discoursing with his disciples, and instructing them only up to the regions of the First Commandment and up to the regions of the First Mystery, that within the Veil, within the First Commandment, which is the four-and-twentieth mystery without and below - those [four-and-twenty] which are in the second space of the First Mystery, which is before all mysteries, - the Father in the form of a dove.

In this paragraph of the first chapter we find a lot of Light, a lot of Wisdom, a lot of SOPHIA, a lot of Chokmah.

In order to perform our own duty one needs to understand the First Commandment.

The First Commandment, which is the First Mystery, is the Father, Kether.

The First Mystery is within the four-and-twentieth mystery. The four-and-twentieth mystery is the Great Work. In other words, the Great Work (Duty) that Kether has to perform is done within the Womb of the Divine Mother Kundalini, the Weaver.

When we look in the Book of Tarot, the Twenty-fourth Arcanum is the Weaver.

The axiom of the Twenty-fourth Arcanum is:

My loom is weaving net after net, a cloth for my honour and cloths for honour.

The "cloth for my honour" is the Solar Bodies and cloth for honour because these solar bodies are the vesture of the Solar Light, which is Christ.

You find that the whole work in the Twenty-fourth Arcanum is done by the Divine Mother weaving her own loom, because the one that performs the whole work, in the Great Loom of God, is the Divine Mother, so she is the one that performs the work inside of each one of us. She is the Holy Spirit.

This is why the First Commandment is the four-and-twentieth commandment, this is the first and the last commandment, because in the Loom of God is hidden the Great Work that we have to perform that is our own duty.

If we make the addition of the Twenty-fourth Arcanum, we find that 2 + 4 is 6.

This is why if we want to perform the Great Work, which is the four-and-twentieth mystery we have to know the mystery of the Sixth Arcanum.

Originally posted by Tamahu
Do you study Gnosis queenannie?

Not only do your interpretations sound similiar, but some of the specific words you use as well...

It's all of God. That is who has been teaching me--for something like 33 years....

And so I've studied all the texts and sciences, too. It's all about just one thing!

Originally posted by Tamahu
Greetings dbrandt


According to Gnosis, that passage from John is referring to us(any Initiate) incarnating the energy of the Son(Chokmah), to create the Solar Astral Body(Hod), as to be free of the mechanical return to Samsara.

Thanks for writing, but I am astounded at what you wrote. Not that it seems to be something that makes sense, but astounded that satan has been able to twist the true meaning of what salvation is and repackage it in this form and to this degree and some believe it.

Sorry, but I can't show any "love" for what you wrote.

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