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Originally posted by MorningtonCrescent
you know what? antidepressants saved my life. I attempted suicide in early August. don't mistake it with some sort of cry for help; I wanted to die. I was hospitalized, underwent intensive therapy (still am), and found a combination of antidepressants and mood stabilizers that began to work. I don't feel perfect now, I really don't even feel happy. but I can get out of bed, I can go to class, I can exist again. I don't fantisize about ways to die or hurt myself anymore. this sort of depression is not a normal human condition. that's bull#. feel free to feel smug about how 'strong' you are because you don't need drugs to make your brain work correctly, but don't you dare begrudge me what is allowing me to live some semblance of a normal life.
Originally posted by Cynic
Anyone who has not been in the black hole of depression is NOT entitled to rave on about the effects of drugs vs. the condition.
I was an undiagnosed manic-depressive for over 20 years. I know well the terrible effects that this disease can have on one's social and economic life.
While it is true that many anti-depressants can have addictive and unmwanted side effects, the benefits they give is truly remarkable.
Lithium saved my life, and my family. To all those posting the "bad" drug story...If you haven't walked the walk, then piss off!
Originally posted by ThePrankMonkey
i've walked it. screw you.
Originally posted by MorningtonCrescent
Originally posted by ThePrankMonkey
i've walked it. screw you.
well, that was mean. by the way, there is no amount of therapy that will 'cure' manic depression. it's a chemical imbalance in the brain, it's that simple. my mom struggled in therapy for years, being told to 'try harder', while her emotional ups and downs nearly destroyed herself and the rest of our family. stuff like 'you don't need drugs, you need therapy' when it comes to manic depression is like saying to a diabetic 'you don't need insulin, you need to will your pancreas to work harder.'
Originally posted by MorningtonCrescent
Originally posted by ThePrankMonkey
i've walked it. screw you.
well, that was mean. by the way, there is no amount of therapy that will 'cure' manic depression. it's a chemical imbalance in the brain, it's that simple. my mom struggled in therapy for years, being told to 'try harder', while her emotional ups and downs nearly destroyed herself and the rest of our family. stuff like 'you don't need drugs, you need therapy' when it comes to manic depression is like saying to a diabetic 'you don't need insulin, you need to will your pancreas to work harder.'
Originally posted by Lysergic
Only thing I need to help me deal with all the bull# in this world is
CANNABIS!
It's your right, decriminalize it NOW!
God put it here for us to enjoy. no?
Originally posted by ThePrankMonkey
read my ENTIRE post again. it mentions medication AND therapy used in combination and how i think thats ok but not JUST drugs by themselves.
selective reading habits????
GET SOME THERAPY AND DRUGS FOR IT!
Originally posted by MorningtonCrescent
Originally posted by ThePrankMonkey
read my ENTIRE post again. it mentions medication AND therapy used in combination and how i think thats ok but not JUST drugs by themselves.
selective reading habits????
GET SOME THERAPY AND DRUGS FOR IT!
why the hell are you yelling at me? if you feel the need to be obnoxious, take it somewhere else.
Originally posted by ThePrankMonkey
i wouldnt have to if you read THE ENTIRE POST to begin with.
i am tired of people on this board reading what they want and ignoring everything else.
Originally posted by MorningtonCrescent
Originally posted by ThePrankMonkey
i wouldnt have to if you read THE ENTIRE POST to begin with.
i am tired of people on this board reading what they want and ignoring everything else.
or you could have just said 'that's not what I meant' and gone on with your life. and for the record, therapy does very little for bipolar disorder. exactly how much more can you accomplish after 20 years in therapy? bipolar disorder (manic depression) does not have the possibility of subsiding after a time the way depression does. it's there for life. exactly how long can you go over the same stuff when the real problem is a chemical imbalance?
Originally posted by ThePrankMonkey
therapy is a means to ALSO keep track of a patients progress or lack thereof so the doctor can help the patient more as time goes by. its called having a medical history.
i wasnt aware i had to explain this.
of course if you had simply read my entire post to begin with we wouldnt be in this thread right now would we? nope! or do i have to tell someone to read my entire thread as if they were a child? thats why you dont assume and you assumed. next time dont skim over, READ, you might miss something important otherwise.
Originally posted by ThePrankMonkey
Originally posted by Cynic
Anyone who has not been in the black hole of depression is NOT entitled to rave on about the effects of drugs vs. the condition.
I was an undiagnosed manic-depressive for over 20 years. I know well the terrible effects that this disease can have on one's social and economic life.
While it is true that many anti-depressants can have addictive and unmwanted side effects, the benefits they give is truly remarkable.
Lithium saved my life, and my family. To all those posting the "bad" drug story...If you haven't walked the walk, then piss off!
i've walked it. screw you.
too many doctors throws pills at their patients because of the the demand from their patients, basically its a patient turned doctor scenario. the patient "feels" they need (insert psycho drug here) and then makes demands from their doctor for it. any doctor who caves in to this sort of behavior should be stripped of their license to practice medicane as far as i'm concerned.
the problem i have too many doctors are all too willing to reach for the prescription pad while doing very little to encourage their patients to seek other forms of treatment that SHOULD and MUST be used to treat these problems if the patient it to ever have any hopes of actually controlling their problems a better way.
they (both doctors and patients) mostly rely solely on drugs as do parents as a "treatment" for their problems.
its one thing if you're on a med AND you're going to therapy/counseling sessions. but i've seen too many used just pills thinking it will cure them and it only makes them want larger doses and ruins them, doing more harm than good. its a crutch and too many doctors are letting it happen. both sides are to blame in this.
and i truly believe that such drugs should not be given to young children as many of them have not been studied in enough detail to know what the long term effects of them will be after that child grows up.
its one thing if you're an adult, quite another if you're a child and your parents make you take these pills, they arent given a choice and it is far too easy to misdiagnose a child as some behaviors are "normal" but not seen that way by the parents and is then exaggerated to the doctor hoping for drugs to zombify their child.