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reply posted on 30-6-2006 @ 04:43 PM by bsl4doc
Originally posted by Long Lance
Há Hà, very funny, there are many things i could say now, the reasonable thing is to state that body weight, (if administered shortly after birth) limited excretion capability, speed of growth and therefore uptake of material will play a role, to say the least. of course, interrupting a child's early development phase results has to result in different damage characterisitcs, it's like exposing an unfinished vs. finished building to an earthquake.


Infants excrete faster a nd more often than adults do, and they also have a higher metabolism. This would lead one to suggest that any mineral/vitamin/nutrient entering their body would be used/excreted faster and would need to be replenished, thus the reason infants and young children need such nutrient rich food so often. That doesn't really jive with your idea, but then neither does the rest of medical science.

I don't know about polysterene or some other factor I'm overlooking, but the following question is very simple: if it started in the 1930s but really took off in the 1990s and seems to have an affinity to developed nations, while opt-outs like the amish remain unaffected, then what is it?


Well, Ford Motors became the number one car manufacturer in 1927, and has steadily increased the number of cars sold throughout the world, mostly in developed nations, and the Amish don't drive cars...OH MY GOD! HENRY FORD IS THE CAUSE OF AUTISM!

Again, see how I can take two totally unrelated events that happen to fall in the same time frame and make it seem like one is the cause of the other? That's how many of us see your vaccine-autism link.


PS: if diet doesn't affect your capability to deal with poison then i don't know what does, ever heard of antidotes?


An antidote isn't a diet. A diet is a normal consumption schedule without too much variance in amount or nutrient type. An antidote is a substance consumed for medicinal purposes only when need arises, not on a daily basis.

Mariella

[edit on 6/30/2006 by bsl4doc]


reply posted on 1-7-2006 @ 06:01 AM by Long Lance
Originally posted by bsl4doc
Infants excrete faster a nd more often than adults do, and they also have a higher metabolism. This would lead one to suggest that any mineral/vitamin/nutrient entering their body would be used/excreted faster and would need to be replenished, thus the reason infants and young children need such nutrient rich food so often. That doesn't really jive with your idea, but then neither does the rest of medical science.



They also absorb faster and this includes toxins. HBV vaccine was /is adimisted within the first few hours after birth, do you believe a child is born fully acclimatized? i can't believe you're so dense, think about the tests (blood levels), the mechanism of toxicity (absorbed by neural tissue in this case) and how they might correlate but not necessarily be fully indicative. i mean it's not like the world revolves around lab tests, does it? i hope i'm wrong, but your previous comment about Metallothionein also strikes me as superficial, just because there's a compound which transports (heavy) metals, doesn't mean there aren't any other factors to be considered, which may influence cellular absorbtion patterns or resistance. besides, metallothionein starts out with a zinc ion, doesn't it? what about a zink deficiency, then? is that genetic, too? or are you going to tell me that nobody suffers from such a deficiency or any other which may indirectly affect zinc levels or its use in the body or the formation of the needed metalloprotein?


Finally, (as many others have said already) why are people setting thresholds for methylmercury exposure, when a much more toxic compound used parenterally and in similar quantities is supposedly not a problem?



Well, Ford Motors became the number one car manufacturer in 1927, and has steadily increased the number of cars sold throughout the world, mostly in developed nations, and the Amish don't drive cars...OH MY GOD! HENRY FORD IS THE CAUSE OF AUTISM!


the # of cars does not follow the trend, because there was no significant (say 100 fold) increase in car usage during the 90s. btw.,hyperbole doesn't invalidate our observations. sure, i may be wrong, but what we see is imho, severely incriminating, especially because next to nothing is being done to solve the investigate now well known anomalies.

PS: if diet doesn't affect your capability to deal with poison then i don't know what does, ever heard of antidotes?


An antidote isn't a diet. A diet is a normal consumption schedule without too much variance in amount or nutrient type. An antidote is a substance consumed for medicinal purposes only when need arises, not on a daily basis.


so, all that talk about antioxidants is a marketing sham, cute... btw. i know they aren't strictly antidotes, but the effect is the same it's simply less pronounced.


reply posted on 1-7-2006 @ 12:01 PM by riley
Originally posted by golemina
I see you took a warning ThickHeaded.

MODERATORS and good people in these medical threads:

Most of us discuss medical issues with a good deal of good faith. Such is NOT the case with our good doctor.

As participants in these threads, you NEED to be consciously aware of what here true purpose here seems to be based on her behavior... More important NOT rise to her CONSTANT BAITING.

Indeed.. I'm not always as diplomatic as I could be but I'm kind of disapointed that he's recieved a warning when she was not given one when she told me to 'get f-' in italian. It wasn't even edited to my knowledge.. instead a general warning was given for people to behave themselves. I didn't reply to her initial interrogation demanding 'proof' of an autism epidemic. It's an accepted fact in the medical community and she would know this if she were in it.. most GPs will freely admit it's an epidemic yet she demanded I jump through hoops justifying a personal opinion. IMO it was meant to antagonise me as she knows I'd already written several posts on this issue on another thread and I wasn't going to repeat myself on cue as though I hadn't already put the effort in.

I have an adult brother who 'changed' [as in the same day] after vaccinations.. and it's implied that I would be a bad parent for having concerns about the risks of vaccines on my own kids?!

Hmm. Which one should I choose?:

-Child getting sick for a while.
-Child growing up and spending whole life in institutions because he/she was one of those 'unlucky' ones that has a bad reaction. 'Oops sorry these thing happen but it's for the greater good of society so can you just pretend it's a co-incidence so we don't have pandemics? We would prefer not havng to pour money into research to protect a minority.. it's not cost effective.'

IMO my genes are suseptable to these 'reactions'. Does the medical community really know that much about the immune systems of babies and the way their brains develop? NO.. they're intent on claiming that vaccines don't cause autism yet they don't know what does and admit to this ignorance. So how then can they confidently exclude it from the list of possible causes? They can't.

What is wrong with me trying to be on the safe side and wait till their older before bombarding their immune sytem with diseases that they didn't naturally catch? What is wrong with me waiting till I at least finnish breastfeeding? My immunity should cover us both shouldn't it? Why are they given so early when nature has already provided adequate protection for babies anyway? Why should they have three diseases in one jab? Why can't they be seperated by a month or two? Is this meant to make things easier on my child or is it a simple matter of not wasting the doctor's time? It sounds overly rushed and reminds me of cattle. There is even a vaccine for chicken pox now.. I know people can have problems when they're older but I recovered from it okay. Is that going to be one of the vaccinations parents are going to be bullied into giving their kids as well?


reply posted on 1-7-2006 @ 12:27 PM by Long Lance
Originally posted by riley

IMO my genes are suseptable to these 'reactions'.



Genes, you know i'd bet my hat that, before helicobacter pylori was isolated as the cause of stomach ulcers, mainstream consenus was that there's a genetic component to it...

It's imho one of those unlucky carry-overs from the 1930s, when eugenics was still popular around the world. It's of course it had 'scientific' backing, that people don't just change because it's unpopular and that the higher (read hierachical and administrative) positions in any field are held by the same people for ages with predictable consequences.


Genetic disposition, like Irreversibility, is in the overwhelming number of cases an excuse when they don't know and probably don't want to know.



reply posted on 9-7-2006 @ 08:02 PM by ThichHeaded
I will give you people a bit of history on Myself and Autism.

Mercury Is Good For Your Children
9/24/2004

This was my 1st post on anything remotely to do with Autism, then I didn't have any idea wtf I was talking about. The people named RedBallon on there ripped me a new one cause I really didn't have much to say on that subject at that time.

I did however start learning after kdx175 Came to my rescue and saved my ass with a raping from this RedBallon. He gave a 1st hand exp on his account with Autism and his kid.

I in the coming years will be subjected to the same thing KDX was facing then. I however have learned alot of what autism, mercury shots and such have to do with each other. I can honestly say that Autism is a bigger problem than most of us think.

According to some place we spend about 9 billion on treating autism in the post yr or so.

In 10 yrs its supposed to climb into around 25 billion.

Anyway my personal history. I have been learning that mercury and autism are link, My son who was diagnosed with autism a few months back was going to get the last of his mercury shots. I don't talk about this with my g/f cause every time we talk about it this conversation ends in a big fight. Anyway I told her when she took him to the doc to do what she felt was right. In the end she got him the shots and now he has autism.


To that Italian Doctor or supposed or whatever the hell you wanna call them. I do not take back anything I said about you, You are the most stupidest people I have ever met in my Life. In this thread and the past thread here about Childhood Vaccinations if you can't get a clue on 405 post most which contain excellent information then stfu and gtfo because there is no helping someone who don't open their mind and accept that things aren't always as they seem.

And to golemina and riley, Thanks for backing me up on that.

Unfortunately some people come into this area as parents who know the BS that mercury shots/autism is. I will take this personally every time because people like bsl4doc are to god damn stupid or something to even act something as simple at people to don't take mercury shots get one and say 1 million kids with autism to the US which is 1 and 166.. what the hell is there to figure out, its not rocket science... A Monkey can figure it out, a man made program can figure it out, A 1st grader can figure out that the stats aren't right.

Anyway this is all I have to say........... I am sorry if I pissed anyone off except bsl4doc for all I can they can well Take a really long walk off a very short pier.

I would guess to get another warn for this... But I am talking from personal exp, and all bsl4doc is doing is sh*tting on the fact of what I live thru everyday, I see the effects of Mercury shots everyday................................ well this is all I have to say...
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