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posted on Jun, 17 2006 @ 12:08 PM
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Hey everyone

i have been reading alot on the third eye and i have a few questions

1. Are there any Religious or Spiritual consequences for opening the third eye

2. are there any special advanced abilites for doing this

3. how long would it take for the avage person with no knowledge of meditation to do this?

i respect all opinions and criticism and please help me with this




posted on Jun, 17 2006 @ 01:14 PM
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there is plenty of new age info out there. people some times open the third eye up, and they do not know they are doing it, or what they are doing will open it up. like how there seems to be so much mystical info out there today, it seems the people running us want us to do these sort of things.

if you are a christian you should stay away, but if not go right ahead. if you start you will eventually get through to the other side, but do not think what you open yourself upto is you, you will be opening yourself upto what people call demonic activity. not demonic posession as such, but opening yourself upto the spirit world which has two sides.

most people do not care today that they open up to such things, and want to rather believe it is them in there brain that what ever experience comes from them.

but the choice is yours after all, and you have to want these things as its your free will, whether you want to open yourself up. your brain is a reciever(i.e interface), what is interfaces we do not know.



posted on Jun, 17 2006 @ 02:20 PM
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thanks for the help i am infact a christian so there for i will stay away from this activity

what about psi energy and telepathy do those also have consequences?



posted on Jun, 17 2006 @ 04:34 PM
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Before I answer, let me say that I too am a Christian. And the lable "3rd eye" is just one of the terms the new age movement has put on something we've lived with and called NORMAL for far as far back as human history goes.

Try not to think of it as this '3rd eye'. It is a silly name for the energy point that people have given to the Brow Chakra. Why that name? Because they assume that it is that point alone that opens the door to things they'd like to be privy to.

Oh- my writting sounds defencive and strong. Sorry. Let me revamp my stuffs here. LOL

Anyway... it is all the energy points together that give us a better handle on sensing and understanding this life and precieving more of it than most do.

We, as living physical people with soul/spirit/body have been given all these things - most of which aren't understood properly if even believed in at all.

I'm not sure exactly what your wanting to do with this opening of the 3rd eye thing - I'd probably be more helpful to you if I did.

But to have a good grasp on the intuit side of yourself you need mostly to be still and listen. Try to grasp the answers for what they are and not put the logic thinking cap on to cover up your gut instinks. Basicaly, what I'm saying is to get back to basics and to try not to depend on other vices.

1. Are there any Religious or Spiritual consequences for opening the third eye

God tells us to come to him for answers and guidance and comfort and help. That is where we MUST go. So yes, there are GREAT consequenses if you intend to start scyering for lifes questions etc. But to use prayer (as a constant companion), to be still and listen and to follow what your gut is telling you... this IS what the discriptions of the opened 3rd eye is trying to relay. They just don't add in that you get it from closeness to God and trusting Him and yourself.

2. are there any special advanced abilites for doing this

Work on your ENTIRE energy system, and all 7 will be opened. This equates to healthy body/mind/spirit and more intuitiveness etc. After grasping the basics, hands on healing then distance healing are but the begining. Emathy and compassion lead to service of others and much understanding of almost everything comes as it's needed. Inspired thoughts and writing and speech etc.

3. how long would it take for the avage person with no knowledge of meditation to do this?

That fastest time possible? A matter of moments. Find a good Reiki Master Practitioner and have yourself attuned to the first level. That is like an all over treatment and ballancing and opening of the chakras.

But let's say that I did some energy work on you and set my goal at opening your 3rd eye as of tonight. What would be different in you when you woke up? Nothing you'd notice besides blockages cleared away and energy flowing. You'd not have great vissions and such like the internet scams make you think.

But, like I said, I really need to know what exactly it is your wanting to do so that I can better help you get there or understand the process.

Angela



posted on Jun, 17 2006 @ 04:41 PM
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Well some major things im looking for in the opening is:

Empathy-on what i understand the reading of anothers emotions

Telepathy- speaking to one through the mind

Psi Energy- Not sure if it has anything to do with The Chakras but i have only started researching...



posted on Jun, 17 2006 @ 11:17 PM
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Originally posted by Ignorance_is_Bliss
Well some major things im looking for in the opening is:

Empathy-on what i understand the reading of anothers emotions

Telepathy- speaking to one through the mind

Psi Energy- Not sure if it has anything to do with The Chakras but i have only started researching...


I thought this is what you were looking for :-)
These things come from inside yourself, it isn't something you have to look to find. When I talked about being still and listening - it's not a literal thing, although it does help many to do it literaly (meditation... I think that's why that came about).

I am an empath, a sensative or what ever they call it now days. LOL, I'm not big on lables and terms, I understand and know what I understand and know - but I don't often have the new age terms for them (I'm getting better though. It's a bit scary to use the terms people use because they almost always include things I consider wrong, or nonChristian if you know what I mean.

I also do energy work and a host of other things. The telepathy is a strange thing to discribe... only a few times in my life have I actualy heard the thoughts of others as if they were speaking them out loud (and I actualy thought they were speaking out loud!)

But all the things you listed above, you are capable of them. We all are. I don't know why I grew up using these skills and others don't, but I think it may have to do with culture, family, the purity and innocence of the family and person and surroundings.

My very best advice is constant prayer. When you pray you are connected to the most high, you are in a spiritual mode, you are open and honest and receptive.

I believe whole heartedly that you already have had many experiences and are not aware - just haven't connected the expereince to the happening. I think that's because so many people think it's a freaky "wow" thing. It isn't, not really. It's a part of everyday and thinking and making decisions and conversations - it's as much a part of everything as all our other sences and thinking are.

I think being more aware of those things that happen now may bring you more understanding.



posted on Jun, 17 2006 @ 11:39 PM
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Prayer And Meditation


Originally posted by AngelaLadyS
Before I answer, let me say that I too am a Christian. And the lable "3rd eye" is just one of the terms the new age movement has put on something we've lived with and called NORMAL for far as far back as human history goes.

I agree wholeheartedly.

Nothing I have seen supports the idea that being a Christian must somehow preclude intellectual inquiry and spiritual growth.

In fact, I consider such concepts to be tragically false, pernicious and a path into darkness.

Prayer and meditation are staples of Christianity.

Through them Christians can discover the truth about Life, the Universe and Everything.

And the truth is wonderful.



posted on Jun, 17 2006 @ 11:50 PM
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My understanding is limited, but it goes something like this

The pineal gland excretes a bit of fluid that is likened to '___' and this allows a bridge of light that connects you to a realm of thought where you may meet with entities otherwise unavailable. It may also create a kind of 3-D like vision of something you are looking at. I experienced what I attributed to third eye awakening and the cover of the book "The Pleiadian Workbook" came alive to me, the stars were moving and so were other pics on the cover. It also seemed that I could *see*, meaning my perceptions became clear and precise, I had a sense of knowing that I generally cannot access.
The Bible mentions that Daniel met God in the land of pineal, and also "let thine eye be single and the whole body will be filled with light."

Tool has a great video called "parabala" which depicts a pretty good Kundalini, third eye opening. You may check that out and see how it makes you feel



posted on Jun, 18 2006 @ 12:21 AM
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Originally posted by Ignorance_is_Bliss
i have been reading alot on the third eye and i have a few questions

First, you should know what it is you're asking.

What is the third eye? Is it a real, physical object or is it a mental or spiritual endowment of some kind? Do you know?

What does one see with a third eye? What kind of knowledge does that seeing bring? What is it good for? Do you know?

Forget about New Age gurus and people you meet on ATS. You'll get nothing worthwhile out of them. You will certainly not find what you are looking for in America.

The answer to your questions lies in the study of Tantra, a form of esoteric mysticism allied to (and arising from) Hinduism and Buddhism. You'll have to become a Buddhist or a Hindu and study the exoteric forms of your chosen faith until you are familiar with them. All this will take several years and your Christian faith will have to go; it is incompatible with the knowledge you seek.

Once the groundwork is complete, you will have to travel to India or one of the Himalayan kingdoms (Nepal, Bhutan) and find a guru of Tantra who will bring you to initiation. Before you get anywhere near one, though, you will be taken for any number of rides by any number of fakes -- gurus, god-men, magicians, astrologers and keepers of clairvoyant talking goats. Some of them will be so convincing they will sidetrack and detain you for years (I say will, not may; it's an inevitable part of the process).

You will give up several times, only to return to the quest when all else fails. Finally, you will encounter a genuine initiate. Unlike the charlatans, this person will probably refuse to have anything to do with you. You will have to plead with, beg from, bribe, cajole or even threaten before they will part with so much of a scintilla of knowledge. You may have buy their food for them and cook their meals before they so much as speak to you. And it isn't even certain that they ever will; if they reckon you're not capable, or not worthy, you'll get nothing from them.

Still interested?



posted on Jun, 18 2006 @ 10:36 AM
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actually i am still intrested but giving up my current faith will need some cold hard months of thinking about...but still From what i understand it does seem like a very long process with a wonderful outcome..and one more thing if anyone here is familiar with psi and has moven the psi wheel i would like some private help becasue these seem like fun and cleansing exercises



posted on Jun, 18 2006 @ 10:36 AM
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double post..again

[edit on 18-6-2006 by Ignorance_is_Bliss]



posted on Jun, 18 2006 @ 02:14 PM
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Hi ignorance is bliss,

i am not a christian or religious, yet 'believe' in god – kinda. The third eye is for me the connection between your mind and the universal 'mind' – it is an inner mind nature imho, it is open all the time – you don't need to do anything to open it, it is more a case of understanding and utilising your mind.

In the coming weeks, i will post a few threads that along side other threads here will hopefully shed some light upon it for you. The first i am posting now called; 'painting masterpieces in the air'.

I hope i can help in some way...

thanx
attila



posted on Jun, 19 2006 @ 12:27 AM
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Originally posted by andy1033
there is plenty of new age info out there. people some times open the third eye up, and they do not know they are doing it, or what they are doing will open it up. like how there seems to be so much mystical info out there today, it seems the people running us want us to do these sort of things.

if you are a christian you should stay away, but if not go right ahead. if you start you will eventually get through to the other side, but do not think what you open yourself upto is you, you will be opening yourself upto what people call demonic activity. not demonic posession as such, but opening yourself upto the spirit world which has two sides.

most people do not care today that they open up to such things, and want to rather believe it is them in there brain that what ever experience comes from them.

but the choice is yours after all, and you have to want these things as its your free will, whether you want to open yourself up. your brain is a reciever(i.e interface), what is interfaces we do not know.


Wow, well I can't change anothers belief system in a single post--I feel compelled to reply with my own opinion (based on the post above).

Here is the Cosmos according to MystikMushroom's mystical/religious experiences:

In the begining there was nothing. Because nothing can't actually exisit, it became somthing. Then this somthing realized itself (that it wasn't "anything" so to speak) and started to use imagery to create "thoughts". This why imagination is so, so precious!

These "thoughts" are infinite. As infinate as any "God" the world worships. There are an unlimited ammount of thoughts. Try it! Think about somthing that has never actually happened...see!? You have just created a new "potential" and thrown it into the unified cosmic consciousness!

We are thoughts.

These thoughts then got organized by The One into sequential order--thoughts laid back to back, linnerally to give memories. Memories are a series of many thoughts all occuring in sequence.

So, a bunch of related thoughts strung together make a memory, and a bunch of ordered memories give rise to a thing we like to call "time".

Why time?

Time is needed to experience emotion. The One KNEW that in order to feel the amazing emotion of say...accomplishement, love, or joy--an event/series of events (aka memories) needed to be created.

We all exist under the umbrella of "The One-ness"

If you belive you are open to demonic posession, you just might find yourself there.

I however choose to take a stand. I say this is MY reality. I choose. I choose where, what or when things will happen--because I know the true nature of myself and my true divinity.

We each can make the choice to realize our own innate birthright--to be God's playing in the creation we have manifested for ourselves.

This is but a taste of the things you will begin to ponder once your third eye is activated.


I didn't "read this" somplace, my own being sort of downloaded this esoteric belief into my being. I'm still struggling to focus my perspective of reality each day...

Remember, there is nothing to fear besides yourself...and you ARE your best ally after all


[edit on 19-6-2006 by MystikMushroom]

[edit on 19-6-2006 by MystikMushroom]



posted on Jun, 19 2006 @ 06:13 AM
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Did you ever watch YUYU HAKUSHO series?



posted on Jun, 19 2006 @ 04:23 PM
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Hello mystic mushroom,

interesting cosmic worldview, mind if i pick you up on a few things...
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In the beginning there was nothing

imho there is no beginning nor end! I like the idea of imagination being precious, i see 'mind' as a 'primary' nature of reality so this is still so even if i am disagreeing with how we arrive there.
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These "thoughts" are infinite

'thoughts' is a collective of finite ideas etc, although they have infinite potential they cannot be infinite because 'infinity cannot be built up to' i.e. No matter what 'amount' we count to there is always an infinite 'amount' remaining thus even the largest number is no closer to infinity – in short, 'infinity is incomparative'.

Interesting post.



posted on Jun, 19 2006 @ 05:56 PM
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Well yes, you are correct that there was no begining...It's just to hard for many people to comprehend the paradoxical nature that there just "always was/is/will-be". When you break through to the "other side" the paradox falls away and one goes, "ohhh YES! It never ended OR started!"

It's the old chicken and the egg. The key is that there was no egg, no chicken...yet at the same time there IS an egg, and a chicken. It just always WAS. And it will forever be as well. That is why I have no qualms if I were to die tomarrow. I know that somehow I will continue on. This is why I am reading the "Tibetan Book of the Dead". I want to stay lucid into death as to incarnate my next life in the best/easiest way.

Infinity in all directions is what I think the anchients used to base their religious dieties on. What else besides the vast infinite sea of reality could be considered truly "worshipable"?



posted on Jun, 21 2006 @ 04:39 PM
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Hi mystic mushroom, sorry for late reply, world cup n all that.

I see you understood exactly what i meant. I have read the Tibetan book of the dead too, i also read the egyptian book of the dead which provides an interesting alternative yet in many ways similar e.g. in both books there is a world between worlds; the intermediate zone [Buddhist] and the underworld, it is described in both books that beams of light emanate from 'orb-realms'. The main thing for me as concerns rebirth is 'like attracts like' so if we think of earthly things we will be reborn here – its that simple... think where you want to go and you go there!

I agree with what you say on infinity, there is one thing greater than infinity though; a 'universal entity' is greater, this is because it has the qualities of infinity, the quantum, and the infinitesimal pan-dimensionally. I am however moving towards the idea that such natures do not exist except comparatively, e.g. There cannot be absolute infinity or else nothing else can exist. In the end there are no absolute definitions! I find it fun that the deeper we go into and beyond the paradox, then the more anarchic the very essence of philosophy becomes.

Thanx

attila



posted on Jun, 21 2006 @ 08:01 PM
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Wowzers! You really jive to the same kind of thought-patterns that I do!


I was thinking today about how some people wish to be vampires or whatnot to become "immortal". I laugh! We are SOOOO immortal and yet 90% of the world dosen't realize it.



I had another thought...

This life isn't that bad...I have my basic human needs met, and really great
friends and family. According to what i'm reading in TBOTD (tibetan book of the dead), we are able to "navigate" and choose our next incarnation.

If, at 23 years of age I have "on my own" come to pick this book up and try to learn from it....what does this say about me and who I was before?

I mean it seems like I must have read the book in the past, and wanted to get a "jump start this time around" by starting to learn about these concepts so early on in life. After all, like I said my life is pretty darn good. I can see why I choose the life i'm living, and if I choose it (i really belive so)...then that means I somehow had acess to the same type of information in some "past existance". . .

Does this make any sense?



posted on Jun, 22 2006 @ 05:48 PM
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Hi MM
concerning immortality:
immortality infers an infinite lifespan, yet infinity is not an 'amount' and cannot ever be reached, unless... we the actual being/spirit/soul are stripped of everything that pertains to finite existence, i.e. Become timeless and stateless. All of this is of course applying our rules to the spirit, which i am sure you will agree, doesn't care for rules. If we did enter this timeless 'nirvana', then we loose everything that makes us us! Then we may also ask; why do we have individuality and why does life seam to enhance our individuality? And why are we a separate entity to the state of oneness [and can that state exist] to begin with!

I find books 'jump out at me' which is perhaps similar to how you 'found' the TBOTD – or how it found you.

My moto; 'Always look beyond the beyond'.
I have studied Buddhism for some years, yet it and all other explanations come apart at the seams upon close inspection e.g. Dharma, how can we have 'correct action' [and all the other meanings of dharma] unless there is one truth by which to follow in our actions? The beauty of philosophy for me is that there is no truth, the nearer we get to it the more paradoxical and circular it becomes, and because we cannot ever arrive at everythingness as an entire entity [absolutely everything] then we cannot ever gather all things in one place that its truth be told. This principle is universally applicable, so even 'god' cannot know the 'truth' [hence he didn't write the bible etc].

All in all i think this is the better approach [in my opinion]; 'take from all sources' i.e. All religions and philosophies that are on your path, then look beyond them.



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posted on Jun, 22 2006 @ 07:02 PM
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Ignorence_is_bliss,

Here is a website that will probably more descriptive to thing's that you are inquiring about.
I was a "Tiger Mantis" in training for 5 1/2 yr's, and that by no means makes or leaves me qualified to personally answer your question's. But, I will say that some of the poster's on this thread have a very vague enlightenment of what really takes place, and for those few poster's that say you have to "Cook for them and possibly clean for them, and still have the chance of being rejected for training." It is nothing like that at all.
When I was being taught for Mantis-Tiger KungFu, My trainer (Master) was a recognized expert by his peer's, it took him almost 32 yr's of his life to achieve the goals of enlightenment he was looking for. The one thing I am trying to get across to you, is that "No matter who you are,Criminal,thief,police officer,clergyman,man or woman, it is all there for the taking. You have to be willing to understand and go through every part of your being to truly find what you are looking for.
On this website that I am posting, I would like you to go down to "1 in. Punch technique", it is titled for you to find, there are some pic's there that you have to look at to get the full feeling of what I was trying to find, I still possess the knowledge and the brut force, but somehow, I have lost the ability for the concentration of the single thing that I had longed for, to be able to over come any obsticle placed in front of me.I lost face with my Master, I used everything that was taught to me for the wrong reason's and I have no need to know those enlightened thing's any longer because of how they were there to help me find myself and help other's, I managed to screw it all up.
I wish you luck on your journies, I hope that you do get the enlightenment you do deserve, just remember the old adage "Do as I say, Not as I do", saying.
My Master use to always tell me "What is preceived in the thought's, are exactly what you bring to the table." So, be wise, think correctly and most of all realize that the journey begins with a single step, no matter how far you travel.
Good Luck Ignorance_is_bliss.

If you feel you have more questions on how the physical and mental parts of the "Third Eye" has on an individual, u2u me.

"So, the journey begins."
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