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Topic started on 24-10-2003 @ 04:10 AM by Nans DESMICHELS
The scientology aim :
A civilization without insanity, without criminals and without war, where the able can prosper and honest beings can have rights, and where man is free to rise to greater heights, are the aims of Scientology. —
L. Ron Hubbard

But everybody know it's not so easy to do !

Okay, it's not a secret society but a sect, but I've post this because I suspect the Church of Scientology of being involved in the New World Order society project :

(The scientology official homepage :
www.scientology.org... )

If you dont know what is the scientology doctrine, i will tell you that it's a kind of mystico-brainwashing called dianetic.

This is the official definition of scientology :

Scientology: comes from the Latin scio, which means “know” and the Greek word logos, meaning “the word or outward form by which the inward thought is expressed and made known.” Thus, Scientology means knowing about knowing. Scientology is an applied religious philosophy developed by L. Ron Hubbard. It is the study and handling of the spirit in relationship to itself, universes and other life.


Great ! But the truth is not there...

A few years ago, in france, there was a trial made by so people, ancients scientology victims, and now bankrupted by the "church". During the trials, some importants documents disappeared. After an enquire, they discovered that some very important people, in the society, like politics, judges, etc... Where in fact down with the scientology.

Dianetics: comes from the Greek words dia, meaning “through” and nous, meaning “soul.” Dianetics is a methodology developed by L. Ron Hubbard which can help alleviate unwanted sensations and emotions, irrational fears and psychosomatic illnesses. It is most accurately described as what the soul is doing to the body through the mind.

Official definition

Dianetic... but dianetic is almost a system of brain washing, and will abduction. People in scientology give all to the sect...


But this is what I think about scientism :

i think that NWO want to make a system of casts (like in 1984). I think they want to use the sects to conditioning people, and to make these casts.

Sects, like scientology, moon, Jehova's...are these casts.

i think scientology is the cast made for the elites of NWO.


I never watched battlefield earth, but I've heard that it 's a propaganda movie for the scientology church.

In fact, battlefield earth, the movie is based on a L-Ron Hubbard novel. (Habbard is the scientology guru).

This is a synopsis :
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In the year 3000, Earth is an empty wasteland. At mining sites across the globe, vicious alien Psychlos (probably the non-scientists ) grind out the mineral resources of the planet they utterly destroyed a millennium ago. From the handful of surviving humans the a courageous leader emerges—Jonnie Goodboy Tyler—who challenges the invincible might of the alien Psychlo empire in a battle of epic scale, danger and intrigue with the fate of Earth and of the universe in the tenuous balance.-------------------------------------------------
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These days (battlefield earth) may be the armaggeddon (The great chaos era of the end of times)...

The scientist (like all the conspirazionists, infact) are probably sure to save humanity with their doctrins...

What you think about this ?


reply posted on 24-10-2003 @ 11:36 AM by Helioform
There is a very definitive link between the OTO (Crowley's cult) and Scientology. Hubbard was inspired by it to create Scientology.

"Hubbard's fascination with Crowley's brand of religion goes back to when he was sixteen living in Washington, D.C. He got hold of the book by Aleister Crowley, called 'The Book of Law.'

He was very interested in several things that were the creation of what some people call the Moon Child. It was basically an attempt to create an miraculous conception - except by Satan rather than by God.

Another important Crowley principle was the creation of what was called embryo implants - of getting a satanic or demonic spirit to inhabit the body of a fetus. This would come about as a result of black- magic rituals which included the use of hypnosis, drugs and the dangerous and destructive practices.

Hubbard^Òs initial exposure to Crowley and the dark side of spirituality would get the opportunity to be further developed through his association with Jack Parsons. Jack Parsons was an acknowledged genius in the field of chemistry and a major figure in the first stirrings of rocket research at Cal Tech.

Parsons was involved with the U.S. branch of an occult secret society called the O.T.O. The ideological leader of this U.S. O.T.O. group was none other than Master Therion, the "Beast 666," or as the contemporary world press described him, "the wickedest man in the world," Aleister Crowley.

During the first World war Aleister Crowley had written a novel called the "Butterfly Net" later to be published under the name "Moonchild." This novel tells the story of a magical operation based on the theory that a particular type of spirit can be induced to incarnate in an unborn human embryo by surrounding the mother with the appropriate influences, carrying out certain rituals, etc.

Parsons wished to carry out such an operation designed to achieve in an unborn child, the incarnation of Babalon, an aspect of the great Mother goddess Nuit. He decided that Hubbard would make an ideal co-worker.

In order to obtain a woman prepared to bear this magical child, Parsons and Hubbard engaged themselves for eleven days in rituals. These do not seem to have produced any marked result until January 14, 1946 when, so Parsons said, Hubbard had a candle knocked out of his hand. Parsons went on to record saying that Hubbard called him and, "We observed a brownish yellow light about seven feet high. I brandished a Magical sword and it disappeared. Hubbard's right arm was paralyzed for the rest of the night."

All this work seemed to have its desired result and, on January 18, 1946 Parsons found a girl who was prepared to go through the required incantation rituals and become the mother of Babalon. Parsons was the High Priest and had sexual intercourse with the girl, while Hubbard, who was present, acted as a skryer, seer, or clairvoyant and described what was supposed to be happening on the astral plane.

Hubbard and Parsons were attempting the most reckless magical feat imaginable. They were trying to incarnate the Scarlet Woman described in the Book of Revelation as "Babylon the Great, the Mother of Harlot and Abominations of the Earth...drunken with the blood of saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus."

The foregoing ritual bears some resemblance to that of a girl who defected from Scientology in 1979. She had been coerced into a perverted act of sexual intercourse with a man fitting Hubbard's description in Hubbard's private quarters at the Fiefield Manor in Los Angeles. She describes the event as one where "my mind was being ripped away from me by force", while the man lay on her for one hour without erection and without ever saying a word.

Around the time of the Parsons connection it is documented that Hubbard used huge amounts of testosterone, stilbestrol (a female sex hormone). Taking the sex hormones were his solution to an impotence problem.

Another solution Hubbard attempted was to resort to "affirmations." The "Affirmations" were commands stated to himself as part of self-hypnosis.

Sometimes you will see in his hand written notes a statement of fact, like, "Yeah, I'm screwed up on sex." And then he'll come back with an affirmation: "You are sexually wonderful! Your sexual prowess has never before been equaled on the face of the Earth!"

Impotence was on Hubbard's mind a lot at that period. He wrote page after page about how "after Fern," he had been too afraid to go to a doctor with the clap. Fern was the girl in Miami who he claims gave gonorrhea to him. So he dosed himself with sulfur, and then he says the sulfur depressed his libido, and his solution to that was the testosterone and stilbestrol. "It so depressed my libido," he said, that he needed someone like Sara to stimulate him. (Sara was Sarah Northrup who later became Hubbard's mistress and wife.)"


Their organization was meant to create another cult with a hierarchy structure not unlike the Nazis:

"One of Hubbard's goals was to produce a Nazi-like fanaticism within his members. To this end he created paramilitary branches within Scientology like the Sea Organization, OSA, GO or the Commodore's Messengers the latter which were similar in may ways to the Hitler youth. The following is from one of the books exposing Scientology, referring to the Commodore's Messengers:"

"They had devised the uniform themselves, with the Commodore's approval, and it gave them maximum opportunity to flaunt their pubescent assets to advantage. While male members of the crew competed avidly to deflower the messengers, Hubbard himself never once exhibited any sexual interest in them."



reply posted on 24-10-2003 @ 11:44 AM by Helioform
Here's a site with a lot of very interesting information on Scientology, Hollywood and Satanism:

www.xs4all.nl...

Funny how Hubbard claims that religions are a "mental implant", but he creates another religion that brainwashes people into thinking that it will remove this "implant."


reply posted on 28-10-2003 @ 04:45 PM by Spot
Scientology..

Dianetics...

two different things.

The book dianetics is not about mindcontrol. Dianetics is about decontroll your mind. let the engramms out of the subconsious. when you want to control a mind you place an engram in a mind.

Scientology

I have visited the church out of curiosity (after reading the book)and found that the people where actually wierd and looked like deprived of sleep, played the secret card and felt not good to me at all.

dianetics can be used as a tool to put suggestions in a mind i believe. when performed dianetics you are not under a hypnotic spell and fully consious. you can walk around the room. relly the book dianetics tell you to ask yourself coordinated questions to remember the things forgotten (wich can become engrams..)

Hubbart didnt make the scientolegy church before but after the book was made.
I have seen some fine results now with dianetics without the church .

I belive that dianetics (the first and only honest book written by Hubbart) is capable of making you remember your past, seeing it for what it is, get the bad programming out (for instance,.. your fat, ugly dumb, cant see you walk funny, your a tramp, i am skinny etc..) that can affect your daily life without you knowing. I have seen some personall evidence to what these messages can do to you even cripple you.

I believe Hubbart sold his soul in a way and was not the only founder of this church. It is the best way to debunk a good way of healing phychosomatic desease.

why do i think that?

Hubbart describes many times in his enthousiastic book that you need not have to take any courses, need no teachers need only to practise..

The scientology church sells courses of dianetics. They go over the four "normal states' of mental being and are conducting some weird science... i have met the people and i will tell you those people are into world we dont want to be without a good guide.

Hubbart had a good idea that could heal thousants of people... what about pharmaceuticals?

Spot
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