SCIENTOLOGY :

But everybody know it's not so easy to do !

Okay, it's not a secret society but a sect, but I've post this because I suspect the Church of Scientology of being involved in the New World Order society project :

(The scientology official homepage : www.scientology.org... )

If you dont know what is the scientology doctrine, i will tell you that it's a kind of mystico-brainwashing called dianetic.

This is the official definition of scientology :



Great ! But the truth is not there...

A few years ago, in france, there was a trial made by so people, ancients scientology victims, and now bankrupted by the "church". During the trials, some importants documents disappeared. After an enquire, they discovered that some very important people, in the society, like politics, judges, etc... Where in fact down with the scientology.

Official definition

Dianetic... but dianetic is almost a system of brain washing, and will abduction. People in scientology give all to the sect...


But this is what I think about scientism :

i think that NWO want to make a system of casts (like in 1984). I think they want to use the sects to conditioning people, and to make these casts.

Sects, like scientology, moon, Jehova's...are these casts.

i think scientology is the cast made for the elites of NWO.


I never watched battlefield earth, but I've heard that it 's a propaganda movie for the scientology church.

In fact, battlefield earth, the movie is based on a L-Ron Hubbard novel. (Habbard is the scientology guru).

This is a synopsis :
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In the year 3000, Earth is an empty wasteland. At mining sites across the globe, vicious alien Psychlos (probably the non-scientists ) grind out the mineral resources of the planet they utterly destroyed a millennium ago. From the handful of surviving humans the a courageous leader emerges—Jonnie Goodboy Tyler—who challenges the invincible might of the alien Psychlo empire in a battle of epic scale, danger and intrigue with the fate of Earth and of the universe in the tenuous balance.-------------------------------------------------
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These days (battlefield earth) may be the armaggeddon (The great chaos era of the end of times)...

The scientist (like all the conspirazionists, infact) are probably sure to save humanity with their doctrins...

What you think about this ?

Insanity is defined by Scientology as:

Being aware of Scientology and its "benefits" and not participating.

A world free of insanity - as THEY use the term - would be a world of Scientologists.

So this term means one thing before you join, another after you're in.

People in Scientology are told that if you learn the secrets of Operating Thetan III before you are ready, you will die of pneumonia, or go insane.

Follow the logic:

If you learn the secrets of Operating Thetan III before you are ready, you will die of pneumonia, or go insane;

Insanity is defined by Scientology as:

Being aware of Scientology and its "benefits" and not participating;

Therefore: If you learn the secrets of Operating Thetan II before you are ready, you will be aware of Scientology and its "benefits" and not participate.

Presented for your viewing pleasure: The secrets of operating Thetan III:

www.b-org.demon.nl...

www.religio.de...

www.holysmoke.org...

There is a very definitive link between the OTO (Crowley's cult) and Scientology. Hubbard was inspired by it to create Scientology.

"Hubbard's fascination with Crowley's brand of religion goes back to when he was sixteen living in Washington, D.C. He got hold of the book by Aleister Crowley, called 'The Book of Law.'

He was very interested in several things that were the creation of what some people call the Moon Child. It was basically an attempt to create an miraculous conception - except by Satan rather than by God.

Another important Crowley principle was the creation of what was called embryo implants - of getting a satanic or demonic spirit to inhabit the body of a fetus. This would come about as a result of black- magic rituals which included the use of hypnosis, drugs and the dangerous and destructive practices.

Hubbard^Òs initial exposure to Crowley and the dark side of spirituality would get the opportunity to be further developed through his association with Jack Parsons. Jack Parsons was an acknowledged genius in the field of chemistry and a major figure in the first stirrings of rocket research at Cal Tech.

Parsons was involved with the U.S. branch of an occult secret society called the O.T.O. The ideological leader of this U.S. O.T.O. group was none other than Master Therion, the "Beast 666," or as the contemporary world press described him, "the wickedest man in the world," Aleister Crowley.

During the first World war Aleister Crowley had written a novel called the "Butterfly Net" later to be published under the name "Moonchild." This novel tells the story of a magical operation based on the theory that a particular type of spirit can be induced to incarnate in an unborn human embryo by surrounding the mother with the appropriate influences, carrying out certain rituals, etc.

Parsons wished to carry out such an operation designed to achieve in an unborn child, the incarnation of Babalon, an aspect of the great Mother goddess Nuit. He decided that Hubbard would make an ideal co-worker.

In order to obtain a woman prepared to bear this magical child, Parsons and Hubbard engaged themselves for eleven days in rituals. These do not seem to have produced any marked result until January 14, 1946 when, so Parsons said, Hubbard had a candle knocked out of his hand. Parsons went on to record saying that Hubbard called him and, "We observed a brownish yellow light about seven feet high. I brandished a Magical sword and it disappeared. Hubbard's right arm was paralyzed for the rest of the night."

All this work seemed to have its desired result and, on January 18, 1946 Parsons found a girl who was prepared to go through the required incantation rituals and become the mother of Babalon. Parsons was the High Priest and had sexual intercourse with the girl, while Hubbard, who was present, acted as a skryer, seer, or clairvoyant and described what was supposed to be happening on the astral plane.

Hubbard and Parsons were attempting the most reckless magical feat imaginable. They were trying to incarnate the Scarlet Woman described in the Book of Revelation as "Babylon the Great, the Mother of Harlot and Abominations of the Earth...drunken with the blood of saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus."

The foregoing ritual bears some resemblance to that of a girl who defected from Scientology in 1979. She had been coerced into a perverted act of sexual intercourse with a man fitting Hubbard's description in Hubbard's private quarters at the Fiefield Manor in Los Angeles. She describes the event as one where "my mind was being ripped away from me by force", while the man lay on her for one hour without erection and without ever saying a word.

Around the time of the Parsons connection it is documented that Hubbard used huge amounts of testosterone, stilbestrol (a female sex hormone). Taking the sex hormones were his solution to an impotence problem.

Another solution Hubbard attempted was to resort to "affirmations." The "Affirmations" were commands stated to himself as part of self-hypnosis.

Sometimes you will see in his hand written notes a statement of fact, like, "Yeah, I'm screwed up on sex." And then he'll come back with an affirmation: "You are sexually wonderful! Your sexual prowess has never before been equaled on the face of the Earth!"

Impotence was on Hubbard's mind a lot at that period. He wrote page after page about how "after Fern," he had been too afraid to go to a doctor with the clap. Fern was the girl in Miami who he claims gave gonorrhea to him. So he dosed himself with sulfur, and then he says the sulfur depressed his libido, and his solution to that was the testosterone and stilbestrol. "It so depressed my libido," he said, that he needed someone like Sara to stimulate him. (Sara was Sarah Northrup who later became Hubbard's mistress and wife.)"


Their organization was meant to create another cult with a hierarchy structure not unlike the Nazis:

"One of Hubbard's goals was to produce a Nazi-like fanaticism within his members. To this end he created paramilitary branches within Scientology like the Sea Organization, OSA, GO or the Commodore's Messengers the latter which were similar in may ways to the Hitler youth. The following is from one of the books exposing Scientology, referring to the Commodore's Messengers:"

"They had devised the uniform themselves, with the Commodore's approval, and it gave them maximum opportunity to flaunt their pubescent assets to advantage. While male members of the crew competed avidly to deflower the messengers, Hubbard himself never once exhibited any sexual interest in them."

i dont think it's anything except a good way for L Ron Hubbard to get money, and a good way for him to be fawned over

a cult

Here's a site with a lot of very interesting information on Scientology, Hollywood and Satanism:

www.xs4all.nl...

Funny how Hubbard claims that religions are a "mental implant", but he creates another religion that brainwashes people into thinking that it will remove this "implant."

Downtown Clearwater here is Scientology central...

Read the first few chapters of Dianetics...there, you're done, as the rest of the book simply repeats it to drum it into your brain....

It's on the theory that the things holding you back are "engrams". Things that happened to you during an unconscious moment, and hold you back from succeeding. In order to clear yourself of these engrams, only dianetic techniques and training can do this, and thus make you a "clear".

Basically, it's a hodge-podge of self-taught psychology, occult philosophy, and new age thinking....combined with the methodology of cults (such as cutting off of family members, absorbtion of material possessions, sleep deprivation, repetition mind control, etc.).

While I'm not a fan of Scientology, I have both read the book and seen the movie of Battlefield Earth. (the movie is only like a third of the book, hehe...) In any case, there is no propaganda for Scientology in it... The movie blows by the way, but the book was excellent...

There are various sects of Scientology as well, and this is where it gets confusing... Some sects accept LRH's fiction as fact and doctrine, and these are the more "out there" ones...while others simply stick to the self-help psychology aspect.... Both are loony, but eh...to each his own....

I actually tried reading Dianetics once out of curiosity and stopped 30 pages through it. All I have to say is "DUH!". It was the most obvious self-help book I had ever read. Positive outlook, be good, blah, blah, blah. All those famous people that think this book is the best thing since sliced bread must be morons that can't even begin to think for themselves.

Oh ya...and Battlefield Earth sucked!

Isnt Scientology constantly being accused of brainwashing people and stealing their money? I have not read their book, but Im sure there are probaly some good teachings as well as a whloe bunch of bs. From what I have observed I think Scientology is just another, though highly successful, cult.

I don’t know a whole lot about scientology. But the first time I saw their buildings I knew something was screwy. I somehow just knew it was a cult.

$cientology was the first, and is ( by far ) the most successful mind-control cult. They get the most ferocious grip on the mind with the least effort. Made Ron about $200 million before he went to meet his maker, then his master.

What happened after he died was a real soap opera. Do a search for "Sherman Lenske".

Scientology..

Dianetics...

two different things.

The book dianetics is not about mindcontrol. Dianetics is about decontroll your mind. let the engramms out of the subconsious. when you want to control a mind you place an engram in a mind.

Scientology

I have visited the church out of curiosity (after reading the book)and found that the people where actually wierd and looked like deprived of sleep, played the secret card and felt not good to me at all.

dianetics can be used as a tool to put suggestions in a mind i believe. when performed dianetics you are not under a hypnotic spell and fully consious. you can walk around the room. relly the book dianetics tell you to ask yourself coordinated questions to remember the things forgotten (wich can become engrams..)

Hubbart didnt make the scientolegy church before but after the book was made.
I have seen some fine results now with dianetics without the church .

I belive that dianetics (the first and only honest book written by Hubbart) is capable of making you remember your past, seeing it for what it is, get the bad programming out (for instance,.. your fat, ugly dumb, cant see you walk funny, your a tramp, i am skinny etc..) that can affect your daily life without you knowing. I have seen some personall evidence to what these messages can do to you even cripple you.

I believe Hubbart sold his soul in a way and was not the only founder of this church. It is the best way to debunk a good way of healing phychosomatic desease.

why do i think that?

Hubbart describes many times in his enthousiastic book that you need not have to take any courses, need no teachers need only to practise..

The scientology church sells courses of dianetics. They go over the four "normal states' of mental being and are conducting some weird science... i have met the people and i will tell you those people are into world we dont want to be without a good guide.

Hubbart had a good idea that could heal thousants of people... what about pharmaceuticals?

Spot

Scientology Church is seen by many worldwide Intel Agencies as a US Intel Network.

nans,

have actually seen battlefield earth three times, I liked it. The critics slashed it to bits, because it portrays in an awkward way certain truths that the controllers wish to be hidden. If you want I can detail those but not now.

heliosform,

excellent work of which I am aware of.

consider that Hubbard was into pop psychology and sociology as his books parallel several theories.

consider the gnostic side of Hubbard also.

consider the basis idea for dianetics in the 'dialectical.'

consider satanism in the precepts of Hubbards goals, the worship of the moon and secret rites.

good stuff.

not sure the interaction of Hubbard and lower level people but there is higher level access for sure.

The church of Scientology is now run and controlled and partially owned by a mysterious jewish lawyer in California.

aka-the Vatican for Scientologists.....

it is one very messed-up belief system.

And, they are rabid about self-defense. They used to sit at the top of the Ft. Harrison Hotel (their Headquarters) with automatic weapons. I kid you not.....

There is a tie-in between Scientology & the OTO. Crowley & Hubbard knew each other. In addition, if you ever read about The Way International Church, aka The Family, there was also a connection between Charles Manson & The Church of Scientology in California.

I will find the link & post it.

Me? I avoid them. I mean-I am a Pagan & I think THEIR weird, you know?

A few years back...before I became addicted to AboveTopSecret...I was addicted to the notion that Scientology was at the root of all evil and secrecy. I did a lot of research on it. I got the notion that if some people wanted to leave, they couldn't...and that perhaps they embedded part of their messages to the world in their movies. (See Tom Cruise...did you ever look at Minority Report's Website. Scientology actually has such a society.)

Two fascinating Scientology debunk site is: www.clambake.org/
www.factnet.org
www.whyaretheydead.net
www.lermanet.com

I also read a fascinating legal deposition from a guy that claimed he helped build one of their bases. I can't seem to find it now.

Some other court docs & exposures:
www.xenu.net...
www.antisectes.net...
www.offlines.org...
www.lermanet.com...

I previously mentioned the movie Minority Report which starred Scientology Tom Cruise. The movie was based on the notion of "pre-cime". I have found the Scientology site of a similar notion. You can find it here:

www.criminon.org...

I have a little knowledge of Scientology......

I used to receive someone else's "snail" mail, a Scientologist's. I kept sending it back, but kept receiving it. Curious, I opened them and they where catalogues and newsletters. Books, courses and dianetic mind "clearing" machines could all be purchased. The costs where astronomical. Courses for £15,000, based in Surrey, England, where also on offer. However they stated that "vips" could become members for free!
I have also heared that John Travolta and Tom Cruise are Scientogolists. The late L Ron Hubbard was the founder and also a convicted criminal.

Scientology has, at its core very charletan beginings. Those of you who are familiar with Robert Hienlien, he wrote a story about a made up religion in his book Stranger in a Strange Land... L. Ron Hubbard confided in Hienlian that making up a religion would really make quite a bit of money... Hubbard retired to the bahamas to the beach for a few years and then Bam! he had written most of scientology.. clumping together many unproven self-help ideas of the time... Its just a money machine...and has turned into a cult...

I had the EXACT same epiphony reading O'Reilly's Who's Looking Out for You. I read about half of Dianetics a decade ago, and NOT EVEN that much O'Reilly.

Who's Looking Out for Me? Ha. The "spin" of "no spin" complete with Door Mats, Books, Coffee Mugs... I mean, no doubt Bill's a money whore, but his groupies are almost a cult. Screaming "no one takes advantage of me and I just bought the $19.99 NO SPIN doormat to prove it!!!"

"The ACLU is the most dangerous organization in America." Uh huh. His outrageous claims make Hubbard look like a damn kitten.

Besides, Hubbards been dead a while. It's mostly a publishing thing now for money.

Doesn't he still 'publish' dead even?

I want to know what's in their mystic book that Hubbard carry around everywhere he go, he even have a safe on his yatch to keep the book there.

I'm not sure if it's about this book or another weird book, but I read somewhere that the few ones who have had the chance to read it turned crazy and finished in an asylum.