posted by Justin Oldham
Let me address an issue Don asked about. We have seen short periods in our past when welfare recipients were looked down upon more than today. I
think we're going to see some of that again in the next decade (2011-2020). I know people at local Social Security office . . they've shown me a few
memos that seem to back up their 'prejudices.' Social dollars are going t to be harder to come by as the boomers wring the life out of Social
Security, which will (they say) drive much of the prejudicial opinions forward. [Edited by Don W]
The 2 of the last 4 presidents were anti-welfare - anti-poor - and I mean first that GOP icon, Ronnie Reagan. He loved the welfare Cadillac story even
though he admitted it was made up. But it was Reagan at his best. Bush41 didn’t give a dam. Clinton had to accept “welfare reform” or not be
president. Like the Germans in the 1930s, sometimes good people do bad things. Bush43 is the bludgeon on the Reagan stick. If welfare types didn’t
do their menial chores, they’d as soon see’em dead.
The $2.75 T Federal budget has less than $1 T discretionary funds. Welfare as opposed to Social Security is discretionary. The GOP has already shifted
the grater part of the old LBJ Great Society programs to the states, often as mandates but sans money. There is more money lost or stolen in the $455
B DoD on-budget money, not to mention the $100 B ‘off-budget’ war monies, than all the welfare cheats could steal in a lifetime. So why this
“hard-on” for the poor?
The 2006 SSI payment is $576 I found out today. This money has nothing to do with Social Security (OASI) and Medicare tax, together the FICA. The
only 2 budgetary items in the black in the Federal picture. (Medicaid is not connected to Mdeicare.)
I know this very second, of three cases in which individuals are receiving SSI and SSD monies without just cause. I'm sure that most of the posters
here can name ablest one fraud case that they know of. In time, it will be easier to report these cheaters, and we may even see rewards for doing so.
The president ordered the internal auditors to “cease and desist” when they found evidence billions with a B was missing in the Halliburton case.
Hundreds of millions in MREs that never were delivered. The list is long. How much do we pay for an MRE? Q. Why do conservative people worry so much
over a guy getting $576 a month when they care not a whit that Halliburton over charges, under delivers and plainly steals billions? Explain that
Once the MSM latches on to the story of millions stealing billions from honest taxpayers . . you'll see some ugly stuff about welfare recipients.
[Edited by Don W]
“Honest taxpayers?” Are you aware that if your income comes from work, your top tax bracket is 34%, but if your income is derived from investments
- owning things - your top bracket is 15%? Are you also aware that corporations which make their profits overseas are taxed only 5%? So what is the
difference between being “honest” and being a “sucker?”
How many companies now own the “main stream media?” Like Time-Warner? The NYTimes was once the leading newspaper in the Western Hemisphere. It was
known as the “paper of record” for the United States. I think it is still family owned, but it has had some hard knocks recently. Not encouraging.
It shows cracks that are not welcome to people who value relevance and objectivity.
The WPost may also be family owned. It was once. But alas, the old timers die off and the MBAs take over. That kills any institution when a MBA is in
charge. The MBAs have done more to destroy the America I once knew and liked more than any single group in the world, including the Commies and Sam
Walton. I'd make the MBA a felony.
But enough of invective. SSI - Security Supplemental Income - is payable to anyone over 65 years of age who is not eligible for Social Security or who
gets a Social Security benefit less than the SSI benefit. In that case, SSI makes up the shortfall. The current SSI rate is $576 a month. IF you had
earned the maximum covered wage since age 22, and retired at age 65, then your monthly benefit would be $1,961.
If you delayed retirement to age 70 then your benefit would be $2,420 per month. If you had retired early at age 62, your monthly benefit was $1,530.
The actual amount is calculated on a month by month basis, so the minimum is $1,530 and the maximum is $2,420. There is no minimum. SSI is the floor
or minimum amount payable at age 65 which this year is $576. www.ssa.gov...
People under 65 and not covered by Social Security - lack 40 quarters of covered employment - and who are physically or mentally unable to work, are
eligible for SSI as long as the disability continues. This is a medical determination, not a bureaucrats decision. This same medical requirement is
found in the case of disabled workers under the OASI - Social Security - program of 1935. The disability must have lasted 6 months. That is, there is
a 6 months waiting period or deductible. It must not be self-inflicted in the case of Social Security, but not in the case if SSI. A person is
eligible if he or she has a malady that is incurable and will prove fatal. There are other requirements but these are the significant ones.
so can we get off the backs of poor people who may or may not get a break from time to time, and get after those who are robbing us blind? The high
and mighty. The R&Fs. The country club types. The glad-handers. The man in the gray flannel suit, 2006 version.
Let us be smart for a change. Let us investigate cases where the outcome will be big bucks, not this nickle and dime crapola that so appeals to the
[edit on 10/18/2006 by donwhite]