Who was Hitler?

Does anybody remember the rumor circulating around that Hitler was Jewish? Well let us look deeper into the myth. It is pretty well know that not just any body can rise to a level of power in any industrial country unless said person has a certain bloodline or is hand pick to advance the agendas of the people behind the scene. With that said, Hitler a social misfit, loner, a school drop out and pretty much a peaseant rose to the lever to lead the 2nd strongest country in the world and managed to conquer a good portion of it. How did this happen?

When one does the research he will find that Hitler was backed by certain powerful people who wanted a major war. Hitler was a member of the Thule society, a branch of the Illuminatti which was pretty much the Nazi party long before the Nazi party. So this just proves Nazism was not something invented in the 1920's by Hitler. Hitler received funding through the Bank of England and Kuhn, Loeb, bank; both controled by the Rothchild families.

The most important corporation in Germany was IG Farben, which had an American version controled by Paul Warburg (a founder of the federal reserve) who's brother, Max Warburg was strangely enough Hitler's personal banker. IG Farben was just a part of Rockefellers Standard Oil, which is of course Rothchild funded. On a side note Rothchild controlled factories such as IG Farben and Ford were not hit by bombing raids throughout the war, while just about ever other structure was obliterated.

So we see that Hitler was funded by the Rothchilds either directly or indirectly.

Lets trace Hitler's geneology back a bit. His father was Alois Hitler a illegitimate son of Maria Anna Schicklgruber. Originally it was believed that Alois' father was Johann Georg Hiedler, but some doubt that. Austrian documents prove that Maria Anna (Adolph's grand mom) was a servant employed in the home of none other Baron Rothchild. When it was known that Maria Anna was pregnant Baron sent her home to raise Alois (Adolph's dad).

The information above came from a high level Gestapo officer Hansjurgen Koehler in 1940 in a document "Inside the Gestapo". Which were about the research into Hitler's background done by Austrian Chancellor Dolfuss right before the German invasion of that country.

Koehler wrote that that document "caused such a havoc as no file in the world would ever caused before" In the document Koehler wrote thatthe info found in the document was not hard to prove. Austrian Chancellor Dolfuss, being the Chancellor could have easily looked up the Hitler family background, being that Hitler is from Austria. Such as Maria Anna was a servant girl who worked for rich families one bieng the Rothchilds where she was knocked up. At that time there were a system of compulsory police registration of where people lived and worked. there were big fines for those who did not obey.

Researchers write that Hitler knew of his Rothchild background before taking power. After his mother died in 1907 Hitler seemed to drop out of site for ten months, where was he? He was probably getting to know his secret family and looking for big things to come.

When Alois (Adolph's dad ) was born in 1837 it was stated that Salomon Mayer was the only Rothchild living at the mansion at the time. It is written that by the 1840's Salomon had developed a somewhat reckless enthusiasm for young girls, and his adventures had to be hushed up with the police".

To rap this up Hitler's grandmom was a servant working for Salomon Rothchild who had thing for young girls. Maria Anna got pregnant while working there. And her grandson becomes dictator of Germany who started WWII. And that the Illuminatti are obsesed with bloodlines into power in all sides of conflicts. So was Hitler a Rothchild?

Funny. This is the first time I have heard that Hitler's grandmother worked for the Rothschilds.

www.holocaust-history.org...

I havent heard it from any legitimate sources.

In Fact, the name of the family that Hitler's grandmother worked for was the Frankenbergers. Not the Rothschilds. And Hitler's grandmother was 42 years old when she gave birth to Alois. Hardly a "young girl".

www.law.umkc.edu...

Originally posted by Fighting Kentuctian
and managed to conquer a good portion of it. How did this happen?

He was sent by the government to infiltrate a leftist political group, which turned out the be the nascent nazi party. He rose to power within the party by force of his rhetoric, and the party had the 'right' message at the 'right' time to get themselves into power.

Why refer to mystical bloodlines when there are other, better explanations?

to lead the 2nd strongest country in the world

Germany was a defeated nation that had had its teeth and claws ripped out of it after WWWI. Their economy had collpased, their government was incompetent, and their people were starving in the streets. It was not even a european power, let alone a global one.

Hitler was a member of the Thule society, a branch of the Illuminatti which was pretty much the Nazi party long before the Nazi party.

The illuminati have nothing ot do with THule, a theosophical/ariosophical cultural group, hitler wasn't necessarily a member, and the nazi party was a political party unassociated with Thule. However, Thule did support and back hitler, and Thulers did become involved in the nazi party.

So this just proves Nazism was not something invented in the 1920's by Hitler.

This is incorrect. The party was built upon basic ideas that other groups had been toying with for a long time. Mussolini in Italy also brought some of these ideas that were 'in the air' together. Hitler was also not so much of a creative genius, but rather his talent lay in taking up already extant ideas and pushing them to their full, albeit evil, potential. Hitler did not invent nazism. The predecessor to the nazi party didn't invent anything terribly unusual either.

Hitler received funding through the Bank of England and Kuhn, Loeb, bank; both controled by the Rothchild families.

What do you mean hitler was funded by them? That the legitimate german government had british investors, or itself invested in british bonds and funds? That the british government loaned money to germany?

When it was known that Maria Anna was pregnant Baron sent her home to raise Alois (Adolph's dad).

interesting, but is that unusual? For a person to take maternity leave?

In the document Koehler wrote thatthe info found in the document was not hard to prove.

IOW this hasn't been demonstrated at all?

So was Hitler a Rothchild?

It doesn't look like hte basic connection has been established, that his grandmother worked for the Rothchilds.

The misconception here is that 'being a Rothschild' merely indicates reasons for a conspiracy (bloodline being important to the perpetrators), it does not, per se, amount to a crime, imho of course.

It's true that nazism has a strange history and that they were most likely the creation of people in power and people with money, but investigating hitler's bloodline does nothing to proove that. at the same time, investigating this story seems close to impossible to me, files can be manipulated and while it's harder to hide financial and military support, forging a single person's history is a peice of cake.

The notion that factories originally owned by certain clans were spared bombing, otoh, if you could validate that, you'd have enough material for an interesting thread.

Hitler himself was an anti-Semite and proud of it. But then again, so too were many people in those days. In fact, even Zionists were often very proud anti-Semites and wanted to kick out all the Jews from Germany as well. The solution to the Jewish Question was originally a Zionist question and not a Nazi one. This political belief was not and is not the same form of demagogue that someone like Rothschild would necessarily ascribe to - that is of another explanation too lengthy for this topic of discussion. But to answer your question of "who was Hitler” is not an easy task. Hitler himself was not a Catholic/Jesuit, nor was he a Freemason although he did belong to a Lodge. Hitler may have spoken of Jesus Christ but does that suggest he was Christian? He may have belonged to a lodge but does that suggest he was a Freemason? And when these people speak of *Christ*, just who are they referring to? Once you understand the question and find it's answer, you will grasp the idea of the *false trinity* and thus the pyramid on the dollar bill revealing the eye of Christ/Horus on top will be made more clear.

Just to digress for a moment: The *eye* is neither of Horus or of Christ but represents another Being. They work everything in "Dark Trinity" - always in 3's. This has led many to believe that the conspiracy must be a Christian one but as I have mentioned already, it merely mimics the trinity. Can you see how a scientific minded individual may assume that Hitler was a Catholic since he associated with them and spoke of Jesus Christ?

The Bilderbergers, Trilateral, CFR are but one example of this false trinity. Take a read of the various books published by the British-Israel World Federation and ask yourself this question, "Who is this Christ being that these Elite believe in and write about?" Did you see Rockefeller's book promotion called "Memoirs"? Why does he always use the "eye" for his symbol? Do you think he would say it was the "eye of Horus or Satan”? No, in fact the he would say “CHRIST.

Returning on topic, Hitler was an occultist and one might suggest a black magician. The reversal of the holy symbol that the nazi's proudly displayed upon their flag was not just for show. Hitler played a role in the destruction of the German Republic and the creation of the nation state of Israel. Hitler was an advanced soul but he made a pact with certain dark entities under the cloak of Sorat and fell into committing great evil.

Conspiracy researchers/theorists come close to the entire picture. For example they know how Paul Warberg (a Zionist) and others in the western world and Europe funded Hitler's rise to power. They also understand that the Elites used Hitler to further their goals. Unfortunately, they fail to see the deeper meaning; that a spiritual battle was being waged upon humanity in a 30-40 year war (WW1+WW2) to destroy Christianity and prevent the coming of the Spiritual Christos (spiritual awakening) in all man. They also have a difficult time in linking Hitler to the influences of the left-handed Eastern brotherhoods and their very anti-Christian ideology. It was not *only* the Western Elites who supported Hitler but also certain Eastern Brotherhoods.

Aren't the Rothschilds Jewish? I'll have to check!

If so it would explain why he hated the Jewish people so much? Maybe he found out who he's real dad was

Originally posted by Fighting Kentuctian
It is pretty well know that not just any body can rise to a level of power in any industrial country unless said person has a certain bloodline or is hand pick to advance the agendas of the people behind the scene.

So every political leader ever has been hand picked by some secret society due to their bloodline?

John Major was a Rothschild OMG!!!!!

hitler got into power because the germans were desperate.
they had horrible inflation, it took a wheelbarrow of money to buy a loaf of bread!
germany was shamed and in ruins
hitler found a political party
he became active in it
they all found his oration to be convincing
he attempted a coup
he was arrested
he leraned to be a better orator
he then gained enough support from the PEOPLE to take power
they may not have known about hitler's plans, but they knew he could bring stability.

Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
hitler got into power because the germans were desperate.
they had horrible inflation, it took a wheelbarrow of money to buy a loaf of bread!
germany was shamed and in ruins
hitler found a political party
he became active in it
they all found his oration to be convincing
he attempted a coup
he was arrested
he leraned to be a better orator
he then gained enough support from the PEOPLE to take power
they may not have known about hitler's plans, but they knew he could bring stability.

We musk ask why were conditions so bad that a nobody like Hitler could raise to power.

World war 1 was was fought or at least prolonged as a means to bring about a world gov't. The League of nations of course, which US Senate did not ratify the Versailles peace treaty thereby ommiting the US from the global body. At this time the men who profited from the war and who wanted a world gov't decided that they would have to create another war, though it must be much bigger and scarier that the first one so people would demand world gov't as a means of world peace.

What did they do, impose terrible reparations on Germany they knew would destroy the German economy. When that happened the German people would demand something be done, then the elite brings in their pupet-Hitler. It is a classic problem-reaction-solution example. The elite (people like- Alfred Milner, Edward Mandell House, Benard Baruch, Lionel Walter Rothchild, Loyd George, the Dulles brothers and the Warburg brothers) planted the seeds for the second war within months of the first one.

For these simple reasons I just don't accept the accidental version of history that Hitler pretty much got lucky and his actions led to world war 2. I f there was not an abundance of evidence stating that the people mentioned above wanted a second war for their own benefits, and had they not have the power to stir up trouble than I would agree that there was no conspiracy and the conventional historians are right.

Very interesting post, Cinosamitna. How did you discover all that information?

[edit on 24-8-2006 by Rock Lobster]

Hitler's rise to power was fueled by nothing more than global economic collapse.
Germany suffered greatly, due to the WWI thing and being considered a low priority for aid.

Everyone was looking for assistance in any form (including domination), and many saw war as a viable alternative.

In fact, the war was so ill-planned, you'd be amazed how many casualties are listed as malnutrition.

Originally posted by Fighting Kentuctian

We musk ask why were conditions so bad that a nobody like Hitler could raise to power.

World war 1 was was fought or at least prolonged as a means to bring about a world gov't.

How, exactly? Have you ever studied the war itself, the war aims, the tactics, the overall strategies? Have you any idea how hard both sides were fighting, or what they were fighting for? And have you studied just why Germany collapsed so badly, as the population started to despair and the army was thrown back out of its positions on the Hindenburg Line and started to shatter?

The League of nations of course, which US Senate did not ratify the Versailles peace treaty thereby ommiting the US from the global body. At this time the men who profited from the war and who wanted a world gov't decided that they would have to create another war, though it must be much bigger and scarier that the first one so people would demand world gov't as a means of world peace.

Ermmm... try looking at US domestic politics here. As for the League, that was the entire idea of Woodrow Wilson. Not the other Allies. And the League was ineffective. Not much of a 'world government' at all.

What did they do, impose terrible reparations on Germany they knew would destroy the German economy.

Do you have the faintest idea how badly northern France and central Belgium were scarred by the First World War? The sheer amount of devastation that was caused by the Schlieffen Plan and the subsequent fighting? France wanted a lot more than it got - Britain got them to tone it down a bit. Versailles could have been a lot worse than it was.

When that happened the German people would demand something be done, then the elite brings in their pupet-Hitler. It is a classic problem-reaction-solution example. The elite (people like- Alfred Milner, Edward Mandell House, Benard Baruch, Lionel Walter Rothchild, Loyd George, the Dulles brothers and the Warburg brothers) planted the seeds for the second war within months of the first one.

I recommend 1918, by Gregor Dallas. A very good read. Should set you right about a few things. Lloyd George an elite member of a word order that was trying to bring about a new world war??? Eeerrrmmmm..... no. Look at his entire career. Try and read his war memoirs too. Oh and by the way he was a fan of appeasement.

For these simple reasons I just don't accept the accidental version of history that Hitler pretty much got lucky and his actions led to world war 2. I f there was not an abundance of evidence stating that the people mentioned above wanted a second war for their own benefits, and had they not have the power to stir up trouble than I would agree that there was no conspiracy and the conventional historians are right.

What possible benefit would it have been to these people to have Europe smashed to pieces, from Caen to Moscow and from Trondheim to Salerno, its economy trashed and large chunks of the rest of the world left badly charred?
Hitler was a unique force on the stage of world history. He was a born demagogue whose oratory and hate combined to create a poisonous ideology that was a child of its time and that has been mercilessly and justly crushed underfoot. He was able to use the fear, resentment, hate and despair of the Germans to rise to prominence in German politics and to then force his way into power, taking advantage of a group of idiots who thought that they could manipulate him. Please note that Nazism only did well when Germany's economy was misfiring. It shrivelled to nothing in the good times of the mid-20's.
Hitler was a monster who thought that he was a) lucky and b) able to manipulate his way around the world. When his luck ran out and the West stood up to him, he fell (eventually) flat on his face.

When you over-throw a one thousand year old Government, it tends to leave a power vaccum.

Hitler filled that vaccum.

There was no special bloodline or anything else about it.

German nobility is very ancient and proud and was the least supportive of Hitler, the majority of Germans trying to kill Hitler were noble born.

I by no mean support his methods but I must admit his intentions,at least at first, seemed to be patriotic..

He was a man with some serious emotional disorders that somehow managed to engage an entire population with his rhetoric..

arrest and imprisonment in todays world would be the nail in the coffin for any political leader.So the question we must ask is why he managed to overcome his political disability and effectively rule most of the eastern hemisphere.

That will maybe teach us how to avoid the same mistakes the german people made

Darkmind. Is your sentence about Europe being smashed to peices a reference to a Fabianist quote from a poem that reads something like

Love Love, but to have the world and to smash it to peices and rebuild it to our hearts desire?

If so could you please correct my quoting of the qoute?

Originally posted by Darkmind
As for the League, that was the entire idea of Woodrow Wilson. Not the other Allies. And the League was ineffective.

The League of Nations was not Wilson's idea. The idea came from his superiors. The powerful men that got him the Presidency. Many of US Presidents are selected.

You need to watch this interview of Norman Dodds. Here he talks about the networks of foundations, Carnegie, Rockefeller, and Morgan, that conspired to control the education system, particularly (initially) in the subject of history. You got to start brainwashing 'em young.

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Not much of a 'world government' at all.

Don't be shocked when you wake up one day and see UN troops marching on the streets of Los Angeles.

This is a great book here:

WALL STREET AND
THE RISE OF HITLER

By
Antony C. Sutton

And the chapter on who financed Hitler.

www.reformed-theology.org...

Originally posted by Fighting Kentuctian

Lets trace Hitler's geneology back a bit. His father was Alois Hitler a illegitimate son of Maria Anna Schicklgruber. Originally it was believed that Alois' father was Johann Georg Hiedler, but some doubt that. Austrian documents prove that Maria Anna (Adolph's grand mom) was a servant employed in the home of none other Baron Rothchild. When it was known that Maria Anna was pregnant Baron sent her home to raise Alois (Adolph's dad).

Maria Anna was not employed by the Rothchilds.

From the book "Adolf Hitler", by John Toland.

"There is the slight possibility that Hitler's grandfather was a wealthy Jew named Frankenberger or Frankenreither; that Maria Anna had been a domestic in this Jewish household at Graz and the young son had got her pregnant." ( pg. 3)

In any event the biological father of Alois is certainly not Johann Georg, and remains a mystery to this day. Johann Georg Hiedler was his stepfather, but the man who raised Alois was Johann Nepomuk Heidler, Georg's brother. It was Johann Nepomuk who had the birth register altered to reflect his brother as the father. And it was the elderly parish priest who mispelled the name to Hitler.

[edit on 20-9-2006 by TheComte]

Was Hitler Jewish?

The idea of Hitler, being Jewish comes back from the 1920's. When he was beginning his earlier political career when they found out his father had changed their surname to Hitler from Schicklgruber. He of course claimed this was just a lie and his family although born in Austria were German.

Then in 1942 Heinrich Himmler had the Gestapo check into these rumours. Nothing was ever proven either way.

However, once the end of the war came Hans Frank confessed to a priest, Hitler's grandmother became pregnant when she was in the survice of Leopold Frankenberger. Hans Frank was set by Hitler to investigate his ancestory but never came back with anything - either for his own safety [either to say Hitler was not Jewish then face a concentration camp] or because he could not find anything.

The reason the rumour still exists is because nobody knows who Aloys Schicklgruber's real father is.

The idea that he is Jewish, does have some weight behind it. His grandmother was linked with working for this Jewish group by a fair few sources. However, it is near impossible to know for sure if he was or wasn't.

Originally posted by Long Lance
The misconception here is that 'being a Rothschild' merely indicates reasons for a conspiracy (bloodline being important to the perpetrators), it does not, per se, amount to a crime, imho of course.

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