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reply posted on 15-6-2006 @ 02:15 PM by marko1970



Originally posted by ed 209
The only real 666 co-incidences I heard of were - the Babylonian magic square for the Sun has a total of 666, which is probably where it comes from originally (all the associations we have with it, esp. since the Bible book Revelations may have had transcribed the one mention of it wrong),

and the one from the original Omen movie, when the man that did the special effects had a car accident on the way to a place called Ommen in Holland, and it was 66.6 km from there when it happened, and there was a sign with that number on it right beside where the crash happened.


When you see 3 sixes, or 666 on a receipt, or odometer, or phone number, or WHEREVER... That is NOT the same thing as having an actual word/name/phrase that has a Gemantriac/letter-numeric value of Six Hundred Sixty Six.

These "cooincidences" of 3 sixes popping up randomly are just that.

BUT.. when you look at events & words of meaning, & THOSE have a TRUE 666 value, I think it's deserving of a little thought & research.

I also said that I'm not claiming this is WITHOUT A DOUBT, 100% "THE" smoking gun, or answer to the biggest mystery to man....
It's just VERY INTERESTING that God said to "Count" (calculate) the number, & that the number is six hundred sixty six.. & THESE things equal JUST THAT when you calculate them.

This list is ONLY to get you thinking, & looking at what's happening worldwide.

WAKE UP!!!
LOOK AROUND!!



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reply posted on 15-6-2006 @ 02:50 PM by mecheng



I'm not implying that ANYONE who's name equals 666 is evil.


Yeah, just the names, phrases and words that fit your agenda (for lack of a better term).


So no, your daughter is NOT the spawn of Satan.


You don't need to tell me that. I'm well aware that she is not. But if you believe this stuff, how can you pick and choose? When you come across a name, let's say GEORGE BUSH, how do you decide if he is or isn't?


As far as "A=6 base" calculation goes, that is the ONLY one that stays consistent when you calculate words & phrases pertaining to subject types.


Again, you're picking numbers that fit. I'm sure there are words, phrases and names in the base six system that could be considered 'good' (like my daughter's name) that equal 666 but are just tossed aside. Just like I'm sure there are bases other than six that spit out words and phrases that can be considered good, bad, or indifferent. Unfortunately I don't have time to prove this.


ALSO... To start "flipping" numbers, or saying 36 could be look at as "3 6's" to get an irrelavent 6-6-6 is not going to give you any useful information.


There are a lot of people who do things like that and then try to sell them off as 'proof'. Why is that method any more unreliable as your base six calculations? See Gear's thread above for instance. It seems there is no standard or rules in your base six system for discriminating so why wouldn't any other system be just as 'reliable'?


I recommend actually READING the Book of Revelation..... because the signs are THERE, as well as on this EARTH.


I'm sure there are. Then why do we need this stuff?

By the way, one word that comes up is CALCULATION. Did you ever think that these calculations are evil and you are perpetrating it?



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reply posted on 15-6-2006 @ 03:14 PM by marko1970

You are getting closer to understanding


Originally posted by mecheng

I'm not implying that ANYONE who's name equals 666 is evil.


Yeah, just the names, phrases and words that fit your agenda (for lack of a better term).


So no, your daughter is NOT the spawn of Satan.


You don't need to tell me that. I'm well aware that she is not. But if you believe this stuff, how can you pick and choose? When you come across a name, let's say GEORGE BUSH, how do you decide if he is or isn't?


As far as "A=6 base" calculation goes, that is the ONLY one that stays consistent when you calculate words & phrases pertaining to subject types.


Again, you're picking numbers that fit. I'm sure there are words, phrases and names in the base six system that could be considered 'good' (like my daughter's name) that equal 666 but are just tossed aside. Just like I'm sure there are bases other than six that spit out words and phrases that can be considered good, bad, or indifferent. Unfortunately I don't have time to prove this.


ALSO... To start "flipping" numbers, or saying 36 could be look at as "3 6's" to get an irrelavent 6-6-6 is not going to give you any useful information.


There are a lot of people who do things like that and then try to sell them off as 'proof'. Why is that method any more unreliable as your base six calculations? See Gear's thread above for instance. It seems there is no standard or rules in your base six system for discriminating so why wouldn't any other system be just as 'reliable'?


I recommend actually READING the Book of Revelation..... because the signs are THERE, as well as on this EARTH.


I'm sure there are. Then why do we need this stuff?

By the way, one word that comes up is CALCULATION. Did you ever think that these calculations are evil and you are perpetrating it?



You're starting to "get it", but missing one point.
This "A=6 base system" IS in fact all on the same standard. There's no "using 6 for this word, & 8 for that word, or 3 on this word... etc..."
It's all on 6. & the reason OTHER numbers aren't reliable, is when you count words like Jesus, Messiah, Gospel on them, the values for these don't stay consistent, which pertaining to GOD, they SHOULD.

BUT.. on the 6-base calculator, they DO have the same value...as they should.

And again, NO... not EVERYTHING that comes to 666 is evil.

Yes, I am aware that "Calculation" equals 666- which is why in MY opinion, I think THAT is the one to use. Because the WORD value of the actual thing you're doing (calculating) equals the number of what you are trying to calculate.
Make sense?

However... if you use a different letter/number value system, the word calculation will have a new value, instead of 666.

So to me it's a clue that YES, this is the correct gemantria to use.

We don't "need' this list. I'm not saying that. But we DO need to know what's going on in the world, & pay attention to the signs. Otherwise we'll be caught by surprise.

All my list is intended to do is make people think. Make people aware that things are reaching a boiling point.

But I have to say, I appreciate your thoughts, & input. It shows that you actually DO think!



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reply posted on 15-6-2006 @ 03:42 PM by mecheng




BUT.. on the 6-base calculator, they DO have the same value...as they should.


I'm sorry, but I can't believe there aren't any other systems using bases other than six, that don't produce 'bad' words that add up to 666. Admittedly I can't prove this because I simply don't have the time.


And again, NO... not EVERYTHING that comes to 666 is evil.


But how can you pick and choose? Again, I'm sure there are many 'good' words in your base six system that you've conveniently left out (again, I can't prove this). To me, that's not a reliable system.


We don't "need' this list. I'm not saying that. But we DO need to know what's going on in the world, & pay attention to the signs. Otherwise we'll be caught by surprise.


Agreed!


But I have to say, I appreciate your thoughts, & input. It shows that you actually DO think!


Thanks. I admit although I don't believe in this stuff I do find it interesting and it peaks my curiosity. However, and no offense to you personally, I still think this stuff is a bunch of horse hockey and is something you'd read about in the National Enquirer. However, I do have an open mind and when I have more time I will try to look into the subject more deeply.


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reply posted on 15-6-2006 @ 03:52 PM by marko1970

HA!!! I love it!


Originally posted by mecheng


BUT.. on the 6-base calculator, they DO have the same value...as they should.


I'm sorry, but I can't believe there aren't any other systems using bases other than six, that don't produce 'bad' words that add up to 666. Admittedly I can't prove this because I simply don't have the time.


And again, NO... not EVERYTHING that comes to 666 is evil.


But how can you pick and choose? Again, I'm sure there are many 'good' words in your base six system that you've conveniently left out (again, I can't prove this). To me, that's not a reliable system.


We don't "need' this list. I'm not saying that. But we DO need to know what's going on in the world, & pay attention to the signs. Otherwise we'll be caught by surprise.


Agreed!


But I have to say, I appreciate your thoughts, & input. It shows that you actually DO think!


Thanks. I admit although I don't believe in this stuff I do find it interesting and it peaks my interest. However, and no offense to you personally, I still think this stuff is a bunch of horse hockey and is something you'd read about in the National Enquirer. However, I do have an open mind and when I have more time I will try to look into the subject more deeply.





I LOVE "Horse Hockey!!"

Like I said, I can appreciate your attitude, & opinion.

Yes, there ARE lots of words that equal 666 that are NOT bad, or EVIL.
Not EVERYTHING on my list is actually evil either. Some phrases just have that value & are current events, leading me to wonder if maybe they are "signs" that the Beast is in fact here...?

Here are a few words that equal 666 that are NOT "bad" or "evil" but happen to have that value...

Audiotapes
Bathrooms
buttons
Dollhouse
firetruck
firefighter

So NO, not ALL words that equal 666 are "bad"

But the ones that ARE "bad" that equal 666 should maybe be paid attention to.

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reply posted on 15-6-2006 @ 06:08 PM by Deacon onE


Maybe someone already saw this but using the calculator I just found that "Santa Claus" = 666.



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reply posted on 15-6-2006 @ 07:16 PM by marko1970

Never thought of that!


Originally posted by Deacon onE
Maybe someone already saw this but using the calculator I just found that "Santa Claus" = 666.


Well there's one that never even crossed my mind yet!
BUT... It does kind of make sense.

Think about it. SANTA is a "replacement" for Jesus at Christmas. It is also an anagram for SATAN.

Something else to ponder,..... Remember when The Pope died recently? Did you see the funeral photos? He was dressed in an outfit that looked JUST LIKE A SANTA SUIT! SERIOUSLY! & the main thing about THIS Pope's funeral was his feet were showing. And THAT apparently isn't the usual custom..... so what's the deal there???

www.cbc.ca...


Good find!!!!



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reply posted on 16-6-2006 @ 04:05 AM by ed 209

why is 666 important as a value anyway.

If you change any of the spelling then it's just insanity though. That is obvious. This kind if thing only works for alphabets that actually do have a numerical value - basicly Hebrew and maybe some old ancient ones. Hebrew does have Gematria that goes along with it so you can find the numerical values for words and letters. Unless you copy that over to English in some 1-26 = A-Z way or the other usual one that reduces all the letter values to 1-9 then it's not even numerology.

I didn't realise anyone was changing the spelling of things here and using translations, how can anyone justify changing how a thing is spelled and then adding it up, that's not even funny to pretend you believe that. It sure isn't a co-incidence either



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reply posted on 16-6-2006 @ 05:01 AM by Cug



Originally posted by ed 209
If you change any of the spelling then it's just insanity though. That is obvious. This kind if thing only works for alphabets that actually do have a numerical value - basicly Hebrew and maybe some old ancient ones. Hebrew does have Gematria that goes along with it so you can find the numerical values for words and letters.



Greek also.

Now for some 666 weirdness, if you translate the name Jesus into Hebrew you get שמיהשוה (ShM IHShVH) and using Hebrew gematria you get 666.



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reply posted on 16-6-2006 @ 05:25 AM by ed 209


Isn't Jesus in Hebrew either Joshua or Yeheshua? ('Jesus' being a translation already) I still don't see why 666 matters as a value even if lots of things do add up to that total. Greek yes uses the same 1-9 type of gematria, but it derives from how the Hebrew one was laid out.

So in this example, given that Revelations was never a Torah nor Old Testament book and it has in it the only mention of the 666 in the Bible, it wouldn't matter even if Jesus-in-Hebrew added up to 666.

What value system did you use to total that name spelled in Hebrew? There's at least four main systems in use.



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reply posted on 16-6-2006 @ 06:51 AM by Cug


I forgot the quotes in my last post ShM IHShVH ("the name Jesus") = 666. ShM IHShVH is pronounced in English as Shem Yeheshua


Originally posted by ed 209
Isn't Jesus in Hebrew either Joshua or Yeheshua? ('Jesus' being a translation already)


Nope. there are no vowels in the the Hebrew alphabet. We just stick them in there to make them easy to pronounce in English. IHShVH can also be written as YHShVH (and to confuse you even more the Hebrew letter Yod, can be represented by the English letters i,y, or j pretty much at will) and when you add some vowels to that you get Yeheshua but the vowels are pretty much random you can also write it as Yihoshevih and be just a correct.




I still don't see why 666 matters as a value even if lots of things do add up to that total.



In gemetria all words that equal the same number are related some how.



Greek yes uses the same 1-9 type of gematria, but it derives from how the Hebrew one was laid out.


1-9? Greek is 1-10,20,30...100,200,300...900 style just like Hebrew



So in this example, given that Revelations was never a Torah nor Old Testament book and it has in it the only mention of the 666 in the Bible, it wouldn't matter even if Jesus-in-Hebrew added up to 666.


Well if you play around enough you can make it work in Greek as well (the language the NT was written in) That's what all these 666 chasers are doing.



What value system did you use to total that name spelled in Hebrew? There's at least four main systems in use.
4?

I only know the one

greek is on the chart as well



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reply posted on 16-6-2006 @ 09:09 AM by marko1970

The importance of 666 recognition


Originally posted by ed 209
If you change any of the spelling then it's just insanity though. That is obvious. This kind if thing only works for alphabets that actually do have a numerical value - basicly Hebrew and maybe some old ancient ones. Hebrew does have Gematria that goes along with it so you can find the numerical values for words and letters. Unless you copy that over to English in some 1-26 = A-Z way or the other usual one that reduces all the letter values to 1-9 then it's not even numerology.

I didn't realise anyone was changing the spelling of things here and using translations, how can anyone justify changing how a thing is spelled and then adding it up, that's not even funny to pretend you believe that. It sure isn't a co-incidence either


The thing about SANTA / SATAN is, they both have the same numeric word value because they have the same letters, whose values don't change, just the arrangement. (Think of the "value" like this.. It's like if you have 2 dimes & a nickle, that's 25 cents. If you arrange them as a nickle & 2 dimes, it's still 25 cents)

BUT..... the name "SANTA CLAUS" may equal 666, whereas SANTA or SATAN alone do not. I was just making a comment that Santa & Satan both use the same letters, & that SANTA was made up as a replacement for the reason we celebrate Christmas. (Just an interesting thing)

Why is 666 important as a value? THAT just depends on what the situation, subect, word/phrase happens to be. God told us to Count the name/number of the beast. It is the number of a man, & his number IS Six Hundred Sixty Six.
So pertaining to the beast or AntiChrist, whose name has a numeric value of that number the 666 is important.

Everything I have listed on my "666 List" are just things of interest. I admit that they really may not "mean" anything at all. But I DO find them worth paying attention to. (ESPECIALLY the words & phrases concerning the RFID Microchip!!)
THAT particular subject has more potential to be THE mark of the beast than anything else I've seen in our lifetime. And THAT makes me think that all of us are living in those end days which were talked about in Revelation.

But again, that's just my speculative opinion.



All I know is, it's good to have discussions about this stuff so that we might open our eyes & see what's happening. & to hopefully help each other get to the TRUTH of what the world leaders are doing.

Thanks for everyone's input so far!!!!



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reply posted on 16-6-2006 @ 09:36 AM by Byrd


It's darn amazing how all that happens to pertain to MODERN ENGLISH words; a language that wouldn't be developed for 1900 years... instead of to the language that John of Patmos was speaking.

We can also find a lot of other phrases that add up to 666

BARES SEE HIT (nudists will survive)
IT'S HERE ABES (everyone named Abraham)
HI ABETS SEER (Hiram's going to help Nostradamus)
A CHEMISE TOM (Tom Cruise? A crossdresser? My gosh! Sign of the end of the world!)
OM HATES MICE
A DUNCE OF ODIN

If you'd like to play along, just toss those phrases into an anagram server:
www.wordsmith.org...

You can find anagrams that add up to 666 that relate to ANY point in history, if you try hard enough. I think we could conclusinvely prove from the above that Tom Cruise is going to destroy the world and when he does it, he'll be wearing nightgown.

Hey, it fits the scenario!



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reply posted on 16-6-2006 @ 10:05 AM by marko1970

That's true, But also.....


Originally posted by Byrd
It's darn amazing how all that happens to pertain to MODERN ENGLISH words; a language that wouldn't be developed for 1900 years... instead of to the language that John of Patmos was speaking.

We can also find a lot of other phrases that add up to 666

BARES SEE HIT (nudists will survive)
IT'S HERE ABES (everyone named Abraham)
HI ABETS SEER (Hiram's going to help Nostradamus)
A CHEMISE TOM (Tom Cruise? A crossdresser? My gosh! Sign of the end of the world!)
OM HATES MICE
A DUNCE OF ODIN

If you'd like to play along, just toss those phrases into an anagram server:
www.wordsmith.org...

You can find anagrams that add up to 666 that relate to ANY point in history, if you try hard enough. I think we could conclusinvely prove from the above that Tom Cruise is going to destroy the world and when he does it, he'll be wearing nightgown.

Hey, it fits the scenario!



I'm not just talking about anagrams that equal 666. I'm talking about words/names/phrases that actually pertain to events that are going on, or have happened, or that are yet to happen.

I also understand that silly words & phrases will undoubtedly have that value as well. But we SHOULD be smart enough to recognize the difference between silly, irrelevent stuff, & things of potential importance. Think about what the MEANING behind the phrase or words.....

Ther main reason "SANTA CLAUS" was interesting to me as a 666 value was the fact that SANTA CLAUS is an alternate to Christ at Christmas....

I agree that Something has happened to Tom Cruise! He's a freakin' WACK now!!

The one thing I think most people misunderstand about the AntiChrist/Mark of the Beast is, many assume he'll show up as an "Evil" person, & that the "Mark" will be a literal tattoo, or marking of some sort, with 3 sixes on it. Which is NOT the case. If he comes as a blatantly evil man, there'd be no way of deceiving people into thinking HE is the messiah.
And certainly everyone will be looking for the obvious "666" stamp, tattoo or whatever, because they would THEN know, "oh yeah, this is the mark of the beast so I better refuse it". Which is why the MARK ITSELF won't BE 666, but will represent the beast, whose name/number is 666. The actual mark will be a much more deceptive one, making it easier to get people to accept it.



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reply posted on 16-6-2006 @ 12:34 PM by mecheng


Hi Marko,
The point about the anagrams is related to the points I've been trying to make to you. You're selectively choosing phrases to make your point while there are many phrases that you either ignore or purposely disregard because they would 'discredit' your theory.

For instance, in your list of phrases, you list "BEAST IS HERE" as a phrase that when using the base six system equals 666. And which I agree sounds pretty 'bad'.

However, one of the "BEAST IS HERE" anagrams (which also then equals 666), is...

"A BEER SETS HI"

which now sounds pretty 'good', eh? CHEERS!



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reply posted on 16-6-2006 @ 01:25 PM by marko1970

Did we say BEER??? LOL!


Originally posted by mecheng
Hi Marko,
The point about the anagrams is related to the points I've been trying to make to you. You're selectively choosing phrases to make your point while there are many phrases that you either ignore or purposely disregard because they would 'discredit' your theory.

For instance, in your list of phrases, you list "BEAST IS HERE" as a phrase that when using the base six system equals 666. And which I agree sounds pretty 'bad'.

However, one of the "BEAST IS HERE" anagrams (which also then equals 666), is...

"A BEER SETS HI"

which now sounds pretty 'good', eh? CHEERS!



HA!!!
Now THAT is a great topic for Friday!!! LOL

Anyway, I DO understand what you're saying here. But I'm not really talking about anagrams.... (and besides, "A Beer Sets Hi" doesn't REALLY make sense.... but it DOES have BEER in it! )

I'm actually talking about specific words or phrases that equal 666, & what the meaning of them are. Yes, SANTA IS an anagram of SATAN, but more importantly, SANTA or SANTA CLAUS himself was created to be a replacement figure of Christ at Christmas, which is to celebrate the birth of Jesus...

Yes there are LOADS of words & phrases that will equal 666 on ANY calculation/gematria system. But which ones actualy pertain to The AntiChrist or Beast? (which is what I was looking for) And yes, I HAVE seen MANY, MANY words & phrases that also equal 666 but have nothing to do with the mark of the beast. But the ones I was interested in are the ones that DO.

THAT is what makes this list "weird" or "creepy" or "chilling".

I'll admit once I started finding more & more of these I decided I needed to share it with people, because I wanted to stir up some discussion, & at least get people to think about the signs going on in the world. Then maybe some of them would do their own research, & get a better understanding of how things are actually run.

There's a messageboard forum at the 666 calculator site that actually lists ALL the 666 matches from a 55,000 word dictionary. (No, there's not 55,000 matches, but there ARE a couple hundred or so out of the 55,000)

Check that out sometime when you get a chance.

I got the idea for MY "UPDATED" list, by trying phrases that weren't on the "BIG" list at that site.

Anyway Mech, You have the right mindset at least, by asking intelligent questions!!!



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reply posted on 16-6-2006 @ 01:51 PM by marko1970

Hey Mech...

I can see why people are skeptical about this. I TOTALLY get that.

I am generally skeptical about stuff I see or read for the 1st time, which leads me to investigate it further, before I decide if I "buy it" or not.

I don't expect people to herald this list as some wondrous discovery... LOL!

I just wanted to put this out there so others can see the (bizarre) potential connections or signs. & the "wierdness" of the words & phrases that have the numeric word value of 666. (at least on the A=6 base calculator)

I suggest people try using other numeric values for this as well, & then it might make sense as to why THIS one seems to be the one that should be used.

*hint* there ARE other gematria calculators on the web....

But the thing is, the words that SHOULD be connected to the AntiChrist & his arrival / mark, don't equal 666 with other letter/number bases.
& if we were told to calculate the name & number of the beast, the main things associated with him SHOULD equal Six Hundred Sixty Six. Otherwise, God would have said to calculate a different number.

AND, as we concluded earlier, the word CALCULATION equals 666 with the method I used..... so is that to tell us we have the correct method/match for calculating?

And oh yeah, About that BEER!!!!!




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reply posted on 16-6-2006 @ 02:01 PM by mecheng



Originally posted by marko1970
I suggest people try using other numeric values for this as well, & then it might make sense as to why THIS one seems to be the one that should be used.



This is what I need to investigate a little further... Perhaps over a cold one. Have yourself a great weekend



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reply posted on 16-6-2006 @ 02:05 PM by DalairTheGreat


to me its just a site by someone with alot of time on there hands, I dont see any value in them, so what a couple names make the letters 666



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reply posted on 16-6-2006 @ 02:27 PM by marko1970

That's cool too...


Originally posted by DalairTheGreat
to me its just a site by someone with alot of time on there hands, I dont see any value in them, so what a couple names make the letters 666


yeah, I occasionally have time on my hands. (Thankfully)

But the reason I started looking more into this in the first place was, I saw news stories about "Veri-Chip / Digital Angel", Which is an Implantable RFID Microchip.
It's already being used in places around the world for making purchases, as well as a form of ID.

To ME, this sounded too much like the predicted "Mark of the Beast" being gradually introduced as a "voluntary" thing, before eventually becoming MANDATORY. (mandatory equals 666 by the way)

So I wanted to see if perhaps I could connect this RFID Microchip with 666....... Could I CALCULATE 666 by using words associated with it?

The BIG answer is YES.

That led me to look into other subjects that could potentially be somehow connected as well.

Remember, the emergence of the AntiChrist is a plan that's been in action for over 2000 years already. It would also require the involvement of all the world leaders, & secret organizations. (The U.N. - The Illuminati - The Bilderberg Group - The E.U. - The Royal Family........)

Could I find a 666 connection to Major Historic Events?

Again, YES.....

That's all I'm trying to say.

You don't HAVE TO believe it.

But I HAVE TO share what I found.



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