Jack the Ripper, a Black Magic Occultist?

Originally posted by drunk
But still he deemed them unfit for society, i mean if a husnabd left a woman or a husband was killed there must have been some other way of earning money for them , like leaving London to seek work elsewhere.

I am not quite sure what you are saying here overall. Possibly if we deem you unfit for society and kill you, we are doing some good for mankind? So it would be justified.

Scary the minds of others...

Originally posted by ZeddicusZulZorander

Originally posted by drunk
But still he deemed them unfit for society, i mean if a husnabd left a woman or a husband was killed there must have been some other way of earning money for them , like leaving London to seek work elsewhere.

I am not quite sure what you are saying here overall. Possibly if we deem you unfit for society and kill you, we are doing some good for mankind? So it would be justified.

Scary the minds of others...

Precisely to him they were a disease so he was merely trying to be the cure.

I think its kinda cool that he was never caught or found out.

Was he not a Doctor, they said that the bodies were killed in such a way, that only a skilled doctor could make those cuts.
Deep

Originally posted by drunk
Precisely to him they were a disease so he was merely trying to be the cure.

I think its kinda cool that he was never caught or found out.

Scary, scary people out there (that means YOU drunk).

You think it's "cool" like Manson, Dahmer, and so on? Probably grab yourself a few bottles and rent a good "snuff" flick this weekend?

I think he means that its Amazing that He was never Caught and hes remained a mystery to this day.
Which is amazing if you ask me.

What he did was not, his reasons unknown.
For all we know Drunk might have been on to something, maybe the Rich decided that that the prostitues were a plauge to society and had to be dealt with.

Maybe thier was an actual plauge they feared and had hired the Ripper to Kill these women and investigate, though they were killed and found shorty after.
I could be wrong though,
Deep

Nah i mean its cool that noone kn ew the real identity of Jack thats all.

Jack the Ripper Murders Solved?
By Jennifer Viegas, Discovery News

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Aug. 16 � After nine years of researching everything from maps to a compass, a British author and criminologist claims to have solved the Jack the Ripper murders that terrified late 19th-century Londoners.

Robert Donston Stephenson, aka Roslyn D'Onston, a military surgeon and occult follower, committed the murders of five prostitutes under the alias of Jack the Ripper, according to a book coming out later this month entitled "Jack the Ripper's Black Magic Rituals" by Ivor Edwards.

Edwards obtained several large-scale ordinance survey maps from the Ripper period. Using a surveyor's wheel, a compass and a stopwatch, he charted the five murders, which occurred in the areas of Spitalfields, Aldgate and Whitechapel in London's East End.



He discovered that the distance between each of the murders was between 930-950 yards. Compass readings further indicated geometrical patterns between the murder sites, which Edwards linked to symbols, such as equilateral triangles, that occultists used then.
"The killer must have planned the murders in advance on a map," Edwards told Discovery News. "The chances of the first four victims being placed at the points of the compass are millions to one; so are the odds relating to the distances between victims."

Evidence further pointing to Stephenson, according to Edwards, is the fact that murder victims had body parts removed, which suggests the killer not only had surgical experience, but also a possible interest in the occult.

Jack the Ripper targeted prostitutes. Edward says D'Onston contracted a venereal disease from a prostitute, and was fired from a government job due to his association with women of the night.

"There are hundreds of theories (as to the identity of Jack the Ripper) but only Robert Donston Stephenson had motive, opportunity and the ability to carry out these murders," said Edwards.

D'Onston, in fact, was arrested at least twice for the murders, but was released due to lack of evidence.

Charles Henry, professor of sculpture at Virginia Commonwealth University and an expert in traditional meanings behind geometrical symbols, supports Edwards' theory.

Stewart P. Evans, author of four books on the murders, the latest being the official Public Record Office document pack entitled "Jack the Ripper and the Whitechapel Murders," said, "We will never know for certain who Jack the Ripper was. There was no hard evidence in 1888, and it is too late now for anything positive to be found."

Evans added, "The public is still interested in these crimes that took place 114 years ago because of the name "Jack the Ripper;" the mystery; the appeal of the gas lit, foggy London of 1888; it was the era of the fictional Sherlock Holmes whose first story had appeared in 1887; and the general romance of the age. Also it was the first real case of a serial killer gaining popular international press coverage and interest."...

more here

dsc.discovery.com...

Due to the depression of the 1880's socialists began to agitate for a change of Government policies. On 13 Novembe 1887, a demonstration in Trafalgar square was brutally quelled. The head of the Metropolitan police at the time of Bloody Sunday, Sir Charles Warren, was to become Commissioner at the time of the Ripper Murders. It is also said that certain Royal scandals were coming to light, and that the people were losing their respect for the monarchy. Lord Salisbury, the Prime Minster, was getting concerned, even stating at one point that he was worried that England would go the same way as France, and dispose of the monarchy altogether.

One theory is that the Ripper murders were designed to take the heat from the Crown by giving the people something else to concentrate on.

Jack was an American. An American doctor. He was found to be in possession of having jars full of uteruses, which were missing from Jack's victims.

Do you have any solid proof that Jack was an American? i mean noone ever found out who he was and he you come claiming he was an American.

Originally posted by RedWhiteBlue
Jack was an American. An American doctor. He was found to be in possession of having jars full of uteruses, which were missing from Jack's victims.

I assume you are talking about Francis Tumblety. He was American and did collect anatomical specimens.

I have seen some interest here in the Jack The Ripper Case and would like to contribute a couple of things here..... I am of the opinion,based on the findings of my personal friend,Ivor Edwards,the author of JACK THE RIPPER...BLACK MAGIC RITUALS (Blake Publisheing 2002 ), that Robert (Roslyn D'onston ) Stephenson WAS Jack The Ripper. Basing my opinion on the fact that of ALL the suspects,RDS was the ONLY one who had motive,opportunity,and ability to have successfully "pulled it off"where none of the other suspects ( James Maybrick and Walter Sickert most notably as of late ), were even KNOWN to be in London,much less Whitechapel,during the August 31st-November 9th bloodbath of 5 eviscerated women......I am a member of JTR Forums,which is one of the world's leading Ripperologist sites ( many of our members are no-nonsense researchers and authors ( Edwards,Martin Fido,R.A.Patterson,and W.T.Mosley,to name a few....).

I'd like to throw this question out to all of you folks.........

Is anyone aware of Stephenson's BURIAL site being found on January 31st,2004,by Ivor Edwards,at islington Cemetery,in London ? Thanks for your time and I seriously hope to contribute to a really good thread here........

Some of my misdeeds may be found at my home site at
www.jtrforums.com/forums

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originally posted by: Howard Brown
I have seen some interest here in the Jack The Ripper Case and would like to contribute a couple of things here..... I am of the opinion,based on the findings of my personal friend,Ivor Edwards,the author of JACK THE RIPPER...BLACK MAGIC RITUALS (Blake Publisheing 2002 ), that Robert (Roslyn D'onston ) Stephenson WAS Jack The Ripper. Basing my opinion on the fact that of ALL the suspects,RDS was the ONLY one who had motive,opportunity,and ability to have successfully "pulled it off"where none of the other suspects ( James Maybrick and Walter Sickert most notably as of late ), were even KNOWN to be in London,much less Whitechapel,during the August 31st-November 9th bloodbath of 5 eviscerated women......I am a member of JTR Forums,which is one of the world's leading Ripperologist sites ( many of our members are no-nonsense researchers and authors ( Edwards,Martin Fido,R.A.Patterson,and W.T.Mosley,to name a few....).

I'd like to throw this question out to all of you folks.........

Is anyone aware of Stephenson's BURIAL site being found on January 31st,2004,by Ivor Edwards,at islington Cemetery,in London ? Thanks for your time and I seriously hope to contribute to a really good thread here........

Some of my misdeeds may be found at my home site at
www.jtrforums.com/forums

[Edited on 10-4-2004 by Howard Brown]

[Edited on 11-4-2004 by Howard Brown]

[Edited on 11-4-2004 by Howard Brown]

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Apparently Mister Howard Brown and Apparently by your own admission and Apparently by your own website JTR FORUM etc etc etc...
Mister Stephenson could not possibly have been Jack.

Apparently he himself was within a secure unit come padded cell upon some of the times of the Murders.

Best Wishes mister DONSTON/HOWARD :-)

JACKDAW 1888

Long time amateur ripperologist here.

Love the D'Onston theory, but it's not really likely.
The lines on the map only relate if you count Tabram, and anyway, anything that's proved by lines on a map has clearly gone a bit Dan Brown.

I've got a far better candidate, if anyone is interested.


Wow. Just saw how old the thread was! Sorry for the necromancy.