Originally posted by dr_strangecraft
Humans have co-existed in harmony with animals - the Native Americans being a good example. They ate the Buffalo, but treated them with respect and
Hopefully dr_strangecraft will come back here and enlighten us a bit about his anthropological work doing a review of bison kills on the American
Plains. If not, you can read his comments here.
You also might read the intro story to that thread here.
After studying thousands of animal bones found in a garbage heap on the shores of San Francisco Bay, Broughton concluded that Native Americans
living in an area where the city of Emeryville is now located hunted several species to local extinction from 600 B.C. to A.D. 1300.
I would imagine you’d consider extinction “barbaric” and “inhumane.”
All I’m saying here, is be careful upon which “facts” you base your ideology. You might just find out they are myths.
We now, as humans, live in an age where we can live perfectly happily and healthily without meat.
Next, this statement smacks of white, “westernized”, upper-middle class ethnocentrism. You sure wouldn’t catch a Somali child or a Thai villager
or a Kirabati native or an impoverished, southern, black farmer saying that kind of thing.
, as humans, don’t live in any such world. Only very prosperous nations are at a point where their citizens can seriously discuss
items from their food supply rather than desperately trying to come up with even an adequate
food supply. So, maybe before you
make such statements from your land of plenty (I’m guessing London, or maybe you’re a transplant to the U.S.; either way, land of plenty), you
should consider the situation to which you’d condemn the whole rest of the world.
Remember that removing meat from “westernized” diets necessitates a major increase in the demand for vegetable and grain products. As demand on a
limited item goes up (and yes, given that there is only so much arable land and only so many people willing to work it, vegetable and grain products
are limited goods), supply decreases. As supply decreases, prices go up in two ways. First, prices are arbitrarily raised as people are willing to pay
more for a scarce product. Next, in order to meet the increased demand, suppliers will hire more staff, increase production, research new methods,
etc., all of which will be passed on to the consumer.
Now, how are the already impoverished people of the world going to afford the small amount of foodstuffs they can currently afford after you’ve
artificially inflated the market by removing meat from “westernized” diets?
Are you going to pay for it? Or are you just going to let them starve? And isn’t that awfully “inhumane” and “barbaric”? Isn’t starvation
Your plan sounds awesome!