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House Votes to Cut Funding for NPR/PBS

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posted on Jun, 12 2006 @ 10:20 PM
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I bet the same people that are applauding this action are the same ones that are approving all the money being spent on Iraq bringing democracy to a place that will ultimately reject it later. Its better to spend money on a foreign country then for our own kids I guess. Thats just disgusting.




posted on Jun, 12 2006 @ 11:05 PM
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Originally posted by grimreaper797
apparently notbuyinit you have never actually listened to either? They in no way are propoganda. Im less trusting of the private media then the government media by far. It is technically one in the same, but we get to have a much closer eye on government owned. Corporations feeding us our news is nothing bad trouble.


I tried to come up with a witty, insightful comeback, but you're a MORON. What I'm saying is, HUH???? Are you braindead? Did you read what you posted???? MORON.

Ban me please. I can't take this anymore. For the love of God, ban me from these moronic posts, this website! They win. Ignorance is bliss. Persons like this aren't worth my sanity but I can't ignore such stupidity. Let me go on with my life!!!!



posted on Jun, 12 2006 @ 11:17 PM
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Oh The Humanity!


Originally posted by notbuynit
Ban me please. I can't take this anymore. For the love of God, ban me from these moronic posts, this website! They win. Ignorance is bliss. Persons like this aren't worth my sanity but I can't ignore such stupidity. Let me go on with my life!!!!

If you insist, I imagine the admins could be persuaded to do this.

Personally, however, I would prefer to see you realize that it's okay for people to disagree with you, that disagreeing with you does not make someone a moron, and that maybe -- just maybe -- you might be wrong.


Have you ever been wrong before?


If not, then I'm probably wasting my time.

Please, rather than get all bent out of shape about what some people on the Internet think, I suggest calming down and not letting this stuff get to you.

Relax, it's only ATS.



posted on Jun, 12 2006 @ 11:38 PM
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I can sympathize with the need to cut funding because of other budgetary commitments, but I will miss NPR and PBS if they actually go off the air. Besides, out here in West Texas it will be hard to find something other than Country & Western music if they go.



posted on Jun, 12 2006 @ 11:48 PM
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Originally posted by Astronomer70
it will be hard to find something other than Country & Western music if they go.


You are making my point for me that this is really class warfare. Its the dumbing down of uhmerka by making sure you dont get a non commercial viewpoint.

They attack PBS for the same reason they attack funding for the arts

Art has no place in a fascistic society.

No art. Just propoganda.



posted on Jun, 13 2006 @ 12:06 AM
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Some of you posting here amaze me.

NPR allows intelligent discussions with differing views on almost any subject.

They allow their guests and listeners to express opinions without judgement.

I wish they could openly condemn what these criminals have done to our country.
I wish they could openly tell the American people to organize a revolt aginst
Bush, Cheney Rumsfeld and Co.

If you consider free speech something that should be prohibited, then it's you,
the misguided extremist right wing sheep that should pack your bags and find another place to live.

As far as I'm concerned, anyone supporting the Bush administration is a traitor to their own country.



posted on Jun, 13 2006 @ 12:14 AM
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Originally posted by FallenFromTheTree
They allow their guests and listeners to express opinions without judgement.

I wish they could openly condemn what these criminals have done to our country.
I wish they could openly tell the American people to organize a revolt aginst
Bush, Cheney Rumsfeld and Co.

If you consider free speech something that should be prohibited, then it's you,
the misguided extremist right wing sheep that should pack your bags and find another place to live.

As far as I'm concerned, anyone supporting the Bush administration is a traitor to their own country.


But! This is what now comes into play by what you said. Even though you don't agree, you have just accused the stations of being too neutral. Well, there you go! I consider these madmen traitors as well, but they do give both sides. There are times when I would get mad, almost feeling like excuses were being made for those in office. It was always fair though. I want fair. Fair in this respect is feasible. They take left wing nutters, they take right wing nutters, they take middleground nutters.

All those that have said, "it needs to go, it is leftist!" Ok ok, take a moment, breathe.. breathe again. Now say along with me "Fox News must go, because it is rightist"


Never fails to amaze me, o'reilly (lowercase on purpose always), can say whatever he wants, and he is fair, because... he agrees with a right-wing view point. Then we can have a leftist doing the same, and the same thing happens. No one ever wins. Believing in half the bird, it doesn't fly with a single wing.



posted on Jun, 13 2006 @ 12:39 AM
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The Republican controlled House is doing all they can to silence opposing views.

In fact any media coverage that does not swallow their lies and deception.
NPR does not stand for Neocon Propaganda Radio.

This is political war!

In my view, NPR represents the memory of The True Sons Of Liberty.



posted on Jun, 13 2006 @ 05:04 AM
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Originally posted by grimreaper797
This is just completely disturbing. people are happy that this source of media is gone. NPR is one of the better mainstream sources in the media. It isnt great, but at least its not fox or CNN. Its sick how people hate an unbias source so much as to wish it doesn't get heard. I guess its a matter of fear though. They are afriad that if unbias news gets out, people might start to think for themselves. They wouldn't have a prejudged opinion before they even think about the issue. Then, the whole deal would come crashing down on those who fear educated minds.


Mainstream? Unbiased? Come on Grim, You have got to know better than that!!!

If there was ever a leftist propaganda news and entertainment network, it is PBS. The only thing that differs it from the now defunct Air America is the fact that it runs on tax payer money.

All though I did enjoy the prairie home companion, PBS is nothing more than a mouth piece for the Democratic Party. Even the left wing drive by media NBC, CBS, ABC and CNN, pales in comparison.



posted on Jun, 13 2006 @ 05:17 AM
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adios, NPR &PBS...it would be nice if those two orgs

all boarded the last AM-TRAK drain-on-resources

and they all faded into the distant, lost horizon.



posted on Jun, 13 2006 @ 06:20 AM
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I think its pretty hard to debate NPR because it varies locally.

PBS had a good deal of stuff I used for learning. There special on string theory was amazing and I learned a GREAT deal from it. I want hard examples of how PBS is bias because I just cant buy that.



posted on Jun, 13 2006 @ 06:54 AM
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HOws this for left wing propaganda
www.pbs.org...
www.pbs.org...
www.pbs.org...

I'm sure if those 'right wingers' had their way, we'd be watching
www.penfoldbooks.com...

Education always takes a back seat to mass ignorance.



posted on Jun, 13 2006 @ 07:48 AM
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Originally posted by jsobecky

The subcommittee had to decide, he said, on cutting money for public broadcasting or cutting college grants, special education, worker retraining and health care programs. "No one's out to get" public broadcasting, Regula said. "It's not punitive in any way."


Which of those programs would you cut, if you were the decision maker?


What a loaded question. As if that's all the Federal Government spends it's money on. How about we cut Senate and House salaries by 10%... How much money would we have for PBS/NPR then? The fact is those in power right now HATE free speech because it means people can say things they don't like. If it were up to them FOX News would be all we were allowed to watch.

The sad thing is, they've destroyed so much of what makes America great, we'll never reclaim it. Things will never be the way they were when we were kids because we've twice elected an organized crime syndicate to lead our nation.



posted on Jun, 13 2006 @ 07:52 AM
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Wow, just got in from the NPR is dead party with Savage, Rush, hanity, ROVE.....man we partied all night..........big bird has applied for a position with DoD as Rummy's spokesman, but I do not hold out hope.................



posted on Jun, 13 2006 @ 07:58 AM
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Originally posted by semperfortis
Mainstream? Unbiased? Come on Grim, You have got to know better than that!!!

If there was ever a leftist propaganda news and entertainment network, it is PBS.


Evidence? Links? Do you ever listen to NPR or watch Jim Lehrer? Why do you think Lehrer is the only commentator both sides can agree on for moderating a debate? Huh? Because he's too BORING to be biased. If you think PBS is leftist propaganda then you're completely ignorant of the US news landscape.


Originally posted by semperfortis
The only thing that differs it from the now defunct Air America is the fact that it runs on tax payer money.


You obviously have listened to neither. Why don't you express your opinions on Atlantean basket weaving as you probably have as much experience of that as NPR and Air America based on that statement.


Originally posted by semperfortis
All though I did enjoy the prairie home companion, PBS is nothing more than a mouth piece for the Democratic Party.


Again. That is completely and utterly wrong. At best it's an expression of your misguided opinion. Stating it as an assumed fact makes it borderline offensive.



posted on Jun, 13 2006 @ 08:08 AM
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I think this discussion is serving to illustrate an important point.

Partisans are insane.

Proof: www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Jun, 13 2006 @ 08:09 AM
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Originally posted by Jamuhn
NPR is by far one of the least biased sources of news and its listeners have regularly been ranked as some of the most informed. I would even say NPR is a little on the right-wing side. NPR sure isn't left-wing out here in Kansas. I don't know how it is in other places right now though.

Apparently you never heard of Bill Moyers out there in Kansas? He was a total shill for the left on NPR for 33 years. He dedicated his final show to an all out attack on conservatives. Some examples:

Moyers seemed to take the low road once again during his last show:


Moyers dipped into his bucket of liberal slime to cite Hitler's "Mein Kampf" in connection with the Pentagon's "use of deception and disinformation against enemies, real or imagined, abroad," carefully ignoring Winston Churchill's advice that "truth accompanied by a bodyguard of lies" is a needed weapon in warfare.

He described hearing conservative talk radio while on a car trip as "a freak show of political pornography" so horrible that he described it as "malignant."

In a report in which he documented conservative excesses on the "public" airwaves he attacked Sean Hannity, "a bullying buffoon" on the "fair and balanced" Fox News for spending much of his time this year campaigning for George W. Bush, and telling an audience in one city that a vote for Democrat John Kerry would help "Osama get his way."

www.newsmax.com...


I would definitely not call NPR even slightly "rightist".



posted on Jun, 13 2006 @ 08:31 AM
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My father was a staunch Republican and conservative, and all we ever listened to in our house was NPR. It's popular among educated people, moreso than anything else. Their demographics are not heavily imbalanced in either direction, to my knowledge. They've got just as many Republicans listening/watching as Democrats, so doesn't it stand to reason that there's got to be some balance at work?

jsobecky you made a good point (last page sometime I think) about the degree of funding that was cut. It's not all that much, all things considered - no pun intended.

The government should definitely shrink, and if that means PBS/NPR has to spend less on original programming, and executive salaries, and focus more on providing bare-bones news - fine by me. There should be a federally-funded public information service, I believe that. It doesn't have to be a symptom of engorged government.



posted on Jun, 13 2006 @ 08:39 AM
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Originally posted by 2stepsfromtop
You're from what country again? I believe that the last Election Results were intentionally hijacked by many Republican Party Officers and Election Officials.
Fact, not fiction.


If you have facts on this then post them.

In my opinion the funding cut should be 100%. Does anyone have any idea how much NPR, PBS and the rest of them spend in complying with government guidelines because they accept government funding? How many times has Congress threatened to cut this funding unless the stations complied with some political whim? There is no reason that these organizations shouldn't be able to stand on their own two feet. If they have the listeners that they claim they have then there should be no problem in attracting grants and advertising. One last thing does anyone know where the licensing revenue goes for the Sesame Street characters? This show was funded by taxpayer money, but the licensing rights are owned by a private entity.



posted on Jun, 13 2006 @ 09:02 AM
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PBS's budget was what, 400 million dollars a year? and it was cut by 100 million. We're told it's because of 'tight spending limits'.

And yet...

President Bush recently signed into law the Transportation Equity Act $295 billion highway bill that contains 6,400 earmarked pet projects costing $24 billion.

Billions.

Of Government Pork.

This includes:

- $10 million for a new interchange at the request of BMW to aid traffic around one of the facilities

-$1.5 million for Horse Trails in Virginia.

-$1.0 million for an offramp in the district of District of Rep. Filner (D-CA), who is ON the transportation committee.

-$1 million for "citywide pavement rehabilitation in City of North Pole"

- $3.2 million for a pedestrian walkway at Coney Island

And let's not forget the other pork and my favorite, corporate welfare. For instance:

How about the $500 million we're giving Northrop Grummon in a corporate bailout?

$13,500,000 for the International Fund for Ireland (WTF is that?)

$500,000 for the Sparta Teapot Museum in Sparta, N.C

$6,435,000 for wood utilization research (because, I'm sure, we don't know how to use WOOD after all these years)

$21,650,000 for the Hawaii Federal Health Care Network. (They get a federal health care network? Why?) (this btw, was tucked in the DEFENSE budget)

$1,000,000 for the Gaming-Technology Software Initiative (Gambling? Video games?)

How about the $35 BILLION dollars we're giving to the oil industry in subsidies when they're making record profits?




And yet, there's no money for PBS. I call Shinanigans.



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