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Unnoticed Flying Objects During Shuttle Launch *new*

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ISJ

posted on Jun, 12 2006 @ 02:09 PM
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Tripod!!!

Tripod!!

Just take a look at the video again, especially the first few seconds of the clip, if that camera securly mounted on a tripod then, the person who bought that tripod should send it back to the manufacturers - its rubbish!!




posted on Jun, 12 2006 @ 02:14 PM
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12m8keall2c they changed the launch count down many times before the launch because of scattered clouds, and a slight chance of rain, even thought it was sprinkling a bit. Surrounding areas were raining that day. The heat from the shuttle wouldn't last long at all..


Originally posted by ISJ
Tripod!!!


The tripod doesn't have much to do with the subject at all, i was simply giving someone the answer as to why the focus of the camera was not on the shuttle after a certain period of time.

[edit on 12-6-2006 by LAES YVAN]



posted on Jun, 12 2006 @ 02:15 PM
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Ive read this entire thread and ive decided its birds, birds, birds! Also, weve yet to see any edited footage from nasa after 11 pages for conparison.



posted on Jun, 12 2006 @ 02:17 PM
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Originally posted by LAES YVAN

The heat from the shuttle wouldn't last long at all..


That's totally besides the point. The Birds would have already been riding thermals before the Shuttle launched.

Also humid air holds heat much longer than dry air not the opposite way around.

If it was raining or threatening to rain that would mean warm air was rising.



posted on Jun, 12 2006 @ 02:18 PM
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Originally posted by joecool280
Ive read this entire thread and ive decided its birds, birds, birds! Also, weve yet to see any edited footage from nasa after 11 pages for conparison.


I never claimed NASA changed anything. But the reports on the news channel that same day showed edited clips of the launch. They would NEVER show anything remotely close to the view from the video I posted. They all pretty much looked like this...

video.google.com...

They cut to different views when the action happens.



posted on Jun, 12 2006 @ 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by lost_shaman


That's totally besides the point. The Birds would have already been riding thermals before the Shuttle launched.

Also humid air holds heat much longer than dry air not the opposite way around.

If it was raining or threatening to rain that would mean warm air was rising.



Once again.. Thermal bubbles rise because the hot bubble is lighter than the cold air around it. But if the cold air around it is humid, and has lots of moisture, the hot bubble wouldn't rise as much if at all, because the air around it is heavier because of the vaporized water. Plus like I said, the shuttle launch pad is near water, thermals dont tend to rise near water.

[edit on 12-6-2006 by LAES YVAN]


ISJ

posted on Jun, 12 2006 @ 02:21 PM
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Originally posted by LAES YVAN

They cut to different views when the action happens.


So why do you think that was?

Because they could clearly see (like 95% of members responding to this thread)
that they are birds and birds aren't ratings winners (unless they get hit by the shuttle.)

I'll give you one credit my friend, you don't give up easily, but then again you fail to see reason.



posted on Jun, 12 2006 @ 02:26 PM
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LAES YVAN,

Just because the Pad is near the water has absolutely nothing to do with the heating and the thermals that are generated on land and Kennedy Space Center is not going to be an exception to that solar heating because of its proximity to the water.



posted on Jun, 12 2006 @ 02:30 PM
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Nice video, we habitually only have black&white fuzzy videos of the earth from NASA.. kind of weird.

[edit on 12-6-2006 by D1ssient]


Xo0

posted on Jun, 12 2006 @ 02:36 PM
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I'm not an expert on this, but I do claim I'm pretty open minded..
However, like probably someone else already stated (when i refreshed after 2 hours it went from 4 pages till 11), due to pixels you could have a false interpretation of the size..

Can't be 100% sure to say it are definatelly birds but I think there's much better evidence out there. But I do understand you want to defend the fact that you might have catched something where one can only dream of
I respect that, I don't see why this thread should be closed..



posted on Jun, 12 2006 @ 02:40 PM
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Originally posted by LAES YVAN
Apollo 1 Launch Date: January 27, 1967, 8:31 AM EST

The Apollo mission craft were not shuttles, they were modules.

NN



posted on Jun, 12 2006 @ 02:49 PM
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[Mod Edit: removed unnecessary quote of Entire preceeding post]

We were talking about how the vultures would probably be used to the "rocket launches", and "loud noise", in that immediate area, to the point where they wouldn't be afraid since the first launches in 1969 and probably before that. Compared to how Pigeons are tamed to humans since our existence. I NEVER stated anything about "shuttles only". Thanks for trying to be Mr. smarty, but its not working.


Originally posted by lost_shaman
LAES YVAN,

Just because the Pad is near the water has absolutely nothing to do with the heating and the thermals that are generated on land and Kennedy Space Center is not going to be an exception to that solar heating because of its proximity to the water.


The air near oceans seems to be horrible spots for thermals on land.

atoc.colorado.edu...



[edit on 12-6-2006 by LAES YVAN]

[edit on 6/12/2006 by 12m8keall2c]



posted on Jun, 12 2006 @ 02:51 PM
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Originally posted by LAES YVAN
Once again.. Thermal bubbles rise because the hot bubble is lighter than the cold air around it.[edit on 12-6-2006 by LAES YVAN]


I would say the air around the hot bubbles was cooler.



Plus like I said, the shuttle launch pad is near water, thermals dont tend to rise near water.



We are talking about the effect from the shuttle nothing else.



[edit on 12-6-2006 by Denied]

[edit on 12-6-2006 by Denied]



posted on Jun, 12 2006 @ 02:54 PM
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Since all of you are going for the "thermal" theory of why the "BIRDS" are so high up.. then how high do you think the birds are???

[edit on 12-6-2006 by LAES YVAN]



posted on Jun, 12 2006 @ 02:54 PM
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Look , right on the video you've shown , those are Cumulus Clouds.

Cumulus clouds are formed by thermals.

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Jun, 12 2006 @ 02:55 PM
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Originally posted by LAES YVAN
Since all of you are going for the "thermal" theory of why the "BIRDS" are so high up.. then how high do you think the birds are???

[edit on 12-6-2006 by LAES YVAN]


You have to understand that if the perspective is wrong then your assumption that they are 11,000 feet up would be wrong, thus canceling that theory.



posted on Jun, 12 2006 @ 02:55 PM
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Originally posted by LAES YVAN
I NEVER stated anything about "shuttles only".

Um, ya, you did .............


Originally posted by LAES YVAN
Also... Shuttle launches have only been around since about 1969.




Thanks for trying to be Mr. smarty, but its not working.

Grow up.

NN



posted on Jun, 12 2006 @ 02:58 PM
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Originally posted by lost_shaman
Look , right on the video you've shown , those are Cumulus Clouds.

Cumulus clouds are formed by thermals.

en.wikipedia.org...



yes I am aware that cumulus clouds can be formed by thermals. However, I was watching the shuttle launch all night and day because they kept changing the launch date, because the clouds were moving in from inland. They were waiting for the clouds to PASS before they launched, but instead they just found a "window", because they were told the clouds would keep coming.

Those clouds were not formed there.. they moved there.



posted on Jun, 12 2006 @ 03:02 PM
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Originally posted by NoNik
Um, ya, you did .............


I used the word shuttle as a noun for a vehicle that transports from one place to another. dictionary.reference.com...

If you were paying attention to the conversation before i stated that, you would know that I was talking about "rocket launches" in general. Not just vehicles named "Shuttles" compared to "Modules".

[edit on 12-6-2006 by LAES YVAN]



posted on Jun, 12 2006 @ 03:03 PM
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Originally posted by LAES YVAN


Those clouds were not formed there.. they moved there.


Thermals are invisible until the begin producing clouds , what this tells us is that there was warm air rising and the Turkey Vultures were making good use of that rising air.

You also have to consider the KSC with all its parking lots and launch Pad is going to be a giant Heat Island and likely produces its very own thermals.




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