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Originally posted by Fiverz
Wow that was alot of reading since my last post. I agree with TKheinsa on most of her statements regarding freezone vs. the church. There are some very intriguing ideas and tech but the church just turned it into a pyramid money-making machine period.
Since you never DID respond to my question to you Mike, I'll just tell you what these "OT"s said.
I asked them if I'd hold all your idologies and beliefs, except that I do not participate in the church or donate ANY money, I would achieve the same enlightenment and/or be accepted. I also asked them if I read from the Bible regularly if that would conflict at all with the church. These so-called "OT's" instantly changed their tone and hastened their conversation with me. As soon as I had no interest in giving them money, they did not want me. 1 of the 3 told me to leave that the church was not for me and accused me of being an SP. But see THAT'S not what turned me off.
I can never follow a church that does not at least respect those that do not follow. I was raised Catholic and although my ideals and beliefs are FAR from that church now, the priests and clergy always respected those that do not believe. They would try to get people to convert and even recruit actively ... but no Catholic priest I've ever known would ask, say, a Baptist or a Protestant or a Scientologist to leave the physical grounds of the church. How can you respect yourself when you can't respect others? So much for that world full of peace you say you are trying to achieve ...
*Again this is just my own personal experience. Maybe I just found the 3 donkey-holes of Scn. And maybe the 15 or so Catholic clergy members I've known were all saints (in the figurative sense). YMMV.