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posted on Jun, 11 2006 @ 04:49 PM
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A rod is an insect caught in the act of flying by a video camera. Some hoaxers or very imaginative people have been maintaining that rods are actually some sort of unknown life form of alien origin. But, according to Doug Yanega of the Entomology Department at the University of California at Riverside and a member of the Straight Dope Science Advisory Board, rods are

a videographic artifact based on the frame capture rate of the videocam versus the wingbeat frequency of the insects. Essentially what you see is several wingbeat cycles of the insect on each frame of the video, creating the illusion of a "rod" with bulges along its length. The blurred body of the insect as it moves forward forms the "rod," and the oscillation of the wings up and down form the bulges. Anyone with a video camera can duplicate the effect, if you shoot enough footage of flying insects from the right distance.*
Source.


I'm very skeptical about "Rods", and the above explanation seems a good one to me. However, I keep an open mind about the other more traditional instances of UFOs.

[edit on 11/6/06 by Implosion]




posted on Jun, 11 2006 @ 04:53 PM
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Great find...again i repeat people start video taping in ultraV.



posted on Jun, 11 2006 @ 04:55 PM
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I'm very skeptical about "Rods", and the above explanation seems a good one to me. However, I keep an open mind about the other more traditional instances of UFOs.


I have always thought rods were insects, I'm not interested in that, theres a lot of "evidence" on them video's as it is.



posted on Jun, 11 2006 @ 05:01 PM
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Originally posted by heelstone
but I do not see why ETs would bother waiting for humanity to destroy itself rather than doing it very quickly by themselves and with minimal damage to the planet.



Imagine the outrage if you went into the forests and destroyed every last one of the great apes. If you made a species extinct. The whole world would charge you with a crime against nature and you'd never live in peace again.

Now imagine the outrage among differant alien races if one alien race came in and wiped out mankind. Made us extinct. The outrage would be universal.

Hence, they poison us slowly. Same effect, just takes a bit more time.

Just my thoughts,

wupy

[edit on 11-6-2006 by mrwupy]



posted on Jun, 11 2006 @ 05:05 PM
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BTW, Winamp will not work as the processor--the video is distorted. Windows Media works or Quicktime.



posted on Jun, 11 2006 @ 05:54 PM
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I have to admit thats some impressive stuff! A lot of stuff that I've not seen before at all, so I look forward to seeing the full thing.

Wayne...



posted on Jun, 11 2006 @ 06:32 PM
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Wow that movie almost makes yout think UFOs have to be real. I loved it, thanks for the link.



posted on Jun, 11 2006 @ 06:36 PM
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I agree, that was a good link. I can't wait for the actual movie to come out.

The more people are able to share knowledge the more likely we are to expose the cover-ups and lies that we have been fed.

This was a good thread


wupy



posted on Jun, 11 2006 @ 06:37 PM
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Thanks for the link people. That was very interesting. I didn't know there was actually video footage to the LA incident. I thought it very interesting the claim that some ufo's were actually alive. Very believable noting some of the footage. Also, I have heard from some sights that some UFO's are actually created in space. How that is, I'm not sure. But that is very interesting, indeed. Great footage. Can't wait to see the film they are talking about producing. We need to keep an eye out for that. Any idea when?



posted on Jun, 11 2006 @ 06:38 PM
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There wasn't that much in that trailer that I hadn't seen or heard before. As for there claim to be making it available to the public for the very first time, it's bollocks. Go to any decent UFO site and see the exact same stuff.

If they are gonna be promoting dust particles and insects as UFO's it's no wonder people think UFO believers are nutcases. If this film actually reaches fruition, it will do more harm than good to a subject that already is a bit iffy, thanks to a half century of hoaxers and charlatans.



posted on Jun, 11 2006 @ 06:54 PM
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I am sorry that you thought posting something that is PERFECT ATS material might get you "banned". Hopefully you know better now.


One question, what, specifically caused you to think this? I hope you are just a good "title marketer" and truly didn't think this would get you the boot.


NICE FIND by the way.


NOTE about "Battle of LA" video: The video is NOT presented as actual footage of the event. This looks like "stock" search light/anti aircraft footage. ONLY the audio is presented as actually from the era.
Thus, there is still NO VIDEO of the "Battle of LA".

Springer...

[edit on 6-11-2006 by Springer]



posted on Jun, 11 2006 @ 07:21 PM
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Originally posted by Springer

NICE FIND by the way.


NOTE about "Battle of LA" video: The video is NOT presented as actual footage of the event. This looks like "stock" search light/anti aircraft footage. ONLY the audio is presented as actually from the era.
Thus, there is still NO VIDEO of the "Battle of LA".

Springer...

[edit on 6-11-2006 by Springer]


Thanks for answering a question in my mind.

I was getting ready to ask if the footage of the battle of L.A. was real, as I was totally unaware any such live footage of the incident existed.

If it is just other footage that was played for effect while the actual radio broadcast was playing, then it makes sense.

This is a pretty damn good video from what I am seeing. I am interested in the angle that there are alot of invisible UFOs. It certainly might help clarify a couple UFO cases.

Its a good video and Im gonna save it to share with my husband.



posted on Jun, 11 2006 @ 07:31 PM
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LET me ask everyone about this possibility

could this be accurate

UFO's were first used in germany during world war II by hitler they were called foo fighters and obviously being new know one knew what the heck they were

A similiar craft crashed in Roswell newmexico and the gov't deciding to hide the evidence does 2 things. 1. it can hide the truth and get people to jump on the alien bandwagon and it can be use at a possible false conformation (from general samantics) in people's mind cause a craft was definitely found and the gov't was covering it up there for there beleif in aliens was solidified. 2. the high technology used in this craft was built without the need for gasoline and use energy sources not within public knowledge (possibly hyperdimensional) and besides letting people know we had mastered this technogoly, yet still are using oil for money and power would be in know one's interest, plus they may be open to " using this spacecraft in a future "attack" knowing people beleive they are aliens) and then popping up with there own craft to fight them and beat them in a staged war, then the new world could unite, and we would all forget about our diffences and do what the gov't want us to in the beleif that they would be protecting us while in fact they were carrying out there agenda.

peace out



posted on Jun, 11 2006 @ 07:32 PM
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Springer, about the Battle of Los Angeles. For many years I have had one single still shot of that event. I actually wondered if it was a Hollywood prank.

The Escamilla production shows not only several different shots, but also the newspaper articles and audio associated with the event. And I guess I got a little over-enthusiastic.

But for the mainstream media to completely forget about the validity of this event is also surprising. It is part of our history that an ET showed up in Los Angeles in the middle of the night on February 25, 1942, and the Army Air Corp shot at it for two hours and didn't harm it; so whatever--or Whoever--it was just wandered off.

I wonder how the news media can forget about such an incident and lose that part of our collective consciousness. I wonder how they write article after article about "maybe someday whether we'll know whether UFOs are real." Are newspaper editors stupid? It's quite apparent, they think we're stupid.

Further, it is probable that Ronald Reagan, since he was making movies in the 40s in Hollywood--knew about that event. Maybe that's why he was so interested in establishing a "Star Wars" program, because he was afraid. Maybe someday someone will ask Nancy if she remembers that.



posted on Jun, 11 2006 @ 07:57 PM
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Originally posted by cpdaman
LET me ask everyone about this possibility

could this be accurate

UFO's were first used in germany during world war II by hitler they were called foo fighters and obviously being new know one knew what the heck they were


peace out


This is not correct. Foo fighters have never been successfully identified or explained. They were not used bgy Hitler. They had nothing to do with him.

In fact, after we defeated Germany and Japan, we had discovered that the Luftwaffe and Japanese air forces were both being harrassed by foo fighters, and they thought them to be secret ally weapons, much as we thought foo fighters were nazi weapons.

Basically, both sides of the war were experiencing the foo fighters, yet niether side had any clue what they were or from where they came from.



posted on Jun, 11 2006 @ 08:32 PM
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It's infra red, not UV guys. Sometimes otherwise known as night shot.

Steve



posted on Jun, 11 2006 @ 08:33 PM
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Perhaps David Sereda and Steven Greer are on to something, perhaps they know alot more truth than you think? or perhaps they are clever hoaxsters.

Please don't dismiss a claim because it doesn't fit in your view of what UFO's and Aliens are but unfortunatly some people unconsiously put the UFO/Alien subject automatically in the list of hostile forces rather than possible benign civilizations.

Stay open minded since some people might be closer to the truth than we might realise and simply dismissing their claims might steer us farther away from the truth.

Remember when everyone thought Bob Lazar was fake? I believe alot of people changed his mind about him recently...



posted on Jun, 11 2006 @ 08:46 PM
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I for one would like to be able to do that. However, the evidence is on the table.

Since 1942 (the Battle of Los Angeles event), this nation has adopted war-profiteering as its major industry; has elevated the military-industrial complex into a terrorist machine.

Here. Here's a video in which Bill Moyers talks about what America has done since 1947. We have not become more benign, nor more peaceable, nor more tolerant.

video.google.com...

The EFFECT of our contact with Aliens has been nothing short of catastrophic, for the whole planet, as you will see.



posted on Jun, 11 2006 @ 09:00 PM
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Most of the threads including this one in this aliens and UFOs forum are simply based on pure opinion and speculation and until concrete and tangible proof is provided they remain just stories and fantasy

and don't you think if aliens wanted us all dead they would've succeeded a long time ago? Its not like we are recognising or providing a resistance against violence nor are we making an effort to prevent hate and jealousy infiltrating our society, out actions and way of thinking...aliens would have a a harder job trying to save us then to destroy us...

[edit on 11-6-2006 by armageddonbeliever]



posted on Jun, 11 2006 @ 09:26 PM
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Im rather new here but love the site! anyway, i just watched the ufo movie trailer from the link that was posted, it mentions what the man calls or dubs "critters". Although i dont remember where i saw it, there is a video of a dark shape like these passing through or by one of the towers right as the explosion happens. I gotta get some rest but will try to find were i saw this at tomorrow. It is just very odd how the dark shadow-like object passes on the footage. Anyone who can find this it would be very interesting to compare footage to the ufo one! thanks!!



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