This is a lie. Esau is not father to the Arab people. Esau is father ot the white people. Esau came out red and hairy and white people are the only one race of people that I know look like that. It certainly ain't the Arabs.

Ishmael is the father of the Arabs.

I really dont like Sharon. He should be assasinated. With all the violence against Palestine, I doubt the 2 countries will not be able to live in peace, even with new treaties, because of all the negative that comes from violence. I wish the slaughter of Palestineans by the the Jewa was more publicized in the American media. I support Arafrat and pray that things will work out for him and his country.

Originally posted by KrazyIvan



and the plaistinians are violateing # too by strapping bombs to their chest and blowing up buses of isrealie children!

what would you do if that was happining to people taht you know?

[Edited on 10-24-2003 by KrazyIvan]

What else are they to do with no hi-tech weapons, being forceable removed from their homes, being treated as third class citizens, forced to live in slums, etc.

What would I do? I wouldn't invade people's homes so it wouldn't happen to me.

the isreals and palistiniens should just kill each other off.......'cause that is the only way that this situation will be resolved....niether side will ever stop retaliation killing.....how can they ever stop when they each blame each other for stuff the grandaddy did.....sort sounds familar....

More propaganda.

Stick to the historical facts and you'll see through the anti-Israeli propaganda.

Where is the help from the Arab "brothers"? You know, the ones that are more than ready to give them money and logistics with which to blow up innocent people.

Im not siding with Palestine, but it's not like the Isreali's are angles. The fact is that both "nations" should stop fighting. But how this can be done, I don't know.

Where do you get this racist “Jews aren’t really Jews” bull?

In Israel today about 20% of the population or 1.2 million is Arabic/Muslim. These Arab-Israeli citizens enjoy all the same rights, representations and privileges as are enjoyed by Israel’s Jewish and Christian population, which is to say the best education, highest per-capita income, and the most civil rights of any Arabic population in any Arabic nation.

These are the descendents of the regions Arabic populations who did not flee in the Israeli war of independence where the armies of 5 different Arabic nations attacked with the intent of “driving the Jews into the sea” otherwise called genocide.

The Palestinian-Arabs have a homeland. It’s called Jordan. It’s the country directly to the East of Israel on the other side of the Jordan River. In the days of the British Mandate when Palestine was ruled by the British after the fall of the Ottoman Empire, they set aside that land to be Arab only, which means that the Jews who lived there had to move. Jordan is five times the size of Israel, the Gaza Strip and the West Bank combined and contained by far the best farmland and natural resources of the region.

The Palestinian-Arabs have been offered statehood on the West side of the Jordan River many times since, starting with the U.N. Partition Plan in 1947 and most recently with the Camp David summit in 2000. They don’t have a state today because they have consistently for almost 60 years shown that they prefer war to self-determination.

Originally posted by Colonel
What annoys me about the Israelis (besides claiming to be the original Jews and they are not) is that they are hypocrites. They were without a homeland and were given one and the expense of the Palestienans. Now, the Palestineans want a homeland too but they refuse to share a portion of their land at all.

The world condemns them for their military actions which, if done by any other country would also be condemned, and they ignore the world or call the world "anti-semite."

Its a lot of BS.

Originally posted by Colonel
This is a lie. Esau is not father to the Arab people. Esau is father ot the white people. Esau came out red and hairy and white people are the only one race of people that I know look like that. It certainly ain't the Arabs.

Ishmael is the father of the Arabs.

colonel. Read the Bible ok.

Jacob tricked Esau out of his inheritence from Isaac, God then eventually blessed Jacob and showed His face to Jacob later on. God renamed Jacob Israel- you can't be Israel and Arab at the same time. I know about Ishmael also. His descendants were said to live by the sword and that each would use that against their brother- sound familiar to the constant war and unrest in the middle east?? Why is the middle east the fulcrum of the world?

It is not a white/Black issue.

I agree with the fact that we have to let them fight it out and resolve their own problems. We should not be involved.

In Kosovo I might have agreed with you there. In Iraq, there was no viable fighting/resistance force to oust the tyraant.......
Believ me, I wish none of this happened. I wish people would just mind their own problems in life without killing someone over them instead.

This is our world my friend unfortunately....someone must stand up to the challenge and indeed, must take the heat and fire of speculation that comes with such actions.

Damned if you do..........

Samfashow....TARFU ALSO...........

[Edited on 27-10-2003 by Tyriffic]

I agree that we need to quit giving money and weapons to Israel so they can persecute their neighbors. If they did not have all the weapons, they would have to actually sit down and talk to the palestinians to work out a peace accord.