Army Officer Refuses To Go To War, page 2
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reply posted on 8-6-2006 @ 03:45 AM by WithoutEqual
Originally posted by SilverSurfer
I think that you should have a mind of your own, and be allowed to think.
Yes even withing the military

If someone tells you to kill for ex. women and children you should have a right to refuse orders. If you know your superior officer is giving you orders that break one or more laws of course you should have a right to refuse.. or to take that man out of charge..


Yeah, we go over there and just grease the crap out of them. Come on. You've got to be kidding me. I'm not saying civilians don't get killed, but you're acting like we target them. 1 TOUR in Afganistan, 2 TOURS in Iraq, and in all that time, not once was I ever ordered to target civilians. Do you see that, do you grasp that? You taking several incidents and damning the military's actions and conduct as a whole is no different than me saying ALL AMERICANS are bigots cause they TARGETED arabs after 9-11 and attacked them. So how's it feel bigot? Can't lump me in that group, wanna know why? I'M ARAB, so why in the holy hell would I kill people from the land I came from, if they we're innocent? Explain that to me buddy. Had I been told such an order, the man giving it would have been shot. If you wanna know the root causes behind Haditha then keep your eyes for a topic I'll post about it. And trust me, it'll be worth it, and it'll suprise you. By no means is it pro Bush, pro military, or pro leftist, if you can grasp that too.

You wanna blame someone for the so called "illegal war" in Iraq, then blame your godamned Presidents, senators, ect and yourselves, cause no matter how much you whine, and protest, you still suck up all the oil people die, and are enslaved for. Sleep at night on that one friend, cause it's the truth, oh what, this isn't what CNN tells you? Not what inforwars tells you? Too bad, cause while you think your doing something about the war, all you're really doing is, whining on the internet, and continuing the problem. Why is that? Cause the countries in the mideast should have one of the highest standards of living due to the oil riches, but why do the people suffer? Cause the Clintions, Bushes, Regans, Kerrys, Kennedys, Delays, all help prop up middle eastern leaders that steal from the people, FOR YOU. AND YOU LOVE IT. Wars are fought for many reasons, the number one, of all time, being money, call it land, oil, or whatever, in the end it's all about the money.


reply posted on 8-6-2006 @ 04:12 AM by MRGERBIK
Originally posted by XphilesPhan
You have voted notbuynit for the Way Above Top Secret award. You have two more votes this month.

nice post.... it's funny whenever there is a war like this under an unpopular administration the SOLDIERS pay for it by being protested etc.

I remember the stories of my friends whose fathers came home after being a POW in vietnam.

They had their finger nails pulled out, beaten with rattan canes, bamboo shoots shoved where their fingernails HAD been. and many starved to death or died from the beatings.

an infamous american personally got 6 POWs killed by her treason, hanoi jane.

she turned the slips of paper the men had slipped her with their social security numbers on them over to the guards

yet when those men who suffered those things came home, they met at the airport by people, now these people are the HEROS mind you, they have a conscience

they spit on these men, called them "baby killers", and beat these men in the streets.

This man should be drummed out of the military in disgrace, no benefits nothing...

I agree completely COWARD!....



What a line of crap. You know this is the biggest myth of ALL TIME in Viet Nam lore? You weren't there,X Philes. It's a nice try. One golf clap for you. You can't even draw one picture of this act occurring. Jesus, I can't believe you can fall for such urban legend. It kind of proves to me you are lacking in the research department. Stripping credibility away is so fun. This schtick is old. get a new one.



Let's see where it came from shall we?

www.vvaw.org...





"Many of the current stories are accompanied by stories of spat-upon Vietnam veterans. The recent story of spitting in Asheville, for example, was traced to a local businessman who says he is a veteran who was also spat upon and called a "baby killer" when he returned from Vietnam. An Associated Press story of April 9 reported stories of spat-upon Vietnam veterans surfacing in several cities including Spicer, Minnesota whose mayor said he was spat upon in the San Francisco airport while coming home from Vietnam in 1971."





Lembecke has a tad more cred than you I am afraid or your "Friend of a friend" "You remember the stories" Well, I guess that finalizes it.
How naive can you be? Do some research next time before you spout urban legend. There is NO proof of this airport incident whatsoever. Because it was fabricated to get you in a jingoistic mood and tapdance in the G.O.P. Minstrel show. Think of yourself as Scott Jolson. "MAAAAMI" That is you and you don't even know it. It was a psy op tactic to get you outraged. So Gullible.



And one more nail into your coffin for the most possible lamest rumor of all time. It doesn't even make sense AND yet you bought it. But next time R-E-S-E-A-R-C-H

www.towardfreedom.com...



BTW just so we are on the level you take any particular story and Urbanize it just for leverage to get people in a rage. Did the spitting occur? Maybe but not in these numbers you are talking about.

And you know what's funny? Why is it so many express this theatrical dinner theater anger like it's valid? Because you heard a story? Where's your proof? We can find a irregular incident in any political agenda. And yet here it is this jingoistic schtick outrage about incidents. Stop trying to polarize every little thing. You are shucking n jiving because that's all you can do. You want to react emotionally to something you were never a part of.

And btw alot Vietnam Veterans were protesting over Vietnam alot of important issues such as Agent Orange. Things that you would rather scrub over and forget about. That's what being a patriot is about. Speaking truth to power. Anyone can soapbox outrage and make angry emoticons on this board all day and blame it on "political agenda"













[edit on 8-6-2006 by MRGERBIK]


reply posted on 8-6-2006 @ 04:38 AM by MRGERBIK
Originally posted by MRGERBIK
Originally posted by XphilesPhan
You have voted notbuynit for the Way Above Top Secret award. You have two more votes this month..

I agree completely COWARD!....



What a line of crap. You know this is the biggest myth of ALL TIME in Viet Nam lore? You weren't there,X Philes. It's a nice try. One golf clap for you. You can't even draw one photo of this act occurring. Jesus, I can't believe you can fall for such urban legend. It kind of proves to me you are lacking in the research department. Stripping credibility away is so fun. This schtick is old.



Let's see where it came from shall we?

www.vvaw.org...





"Many of the current stories are accompanied by stories of spat-upon Vietnam veterans. The recent story of spitting in Asheville, for example, was traced to a local businessman who says he is a veteran who was also spat upon and called a "baby killer" when he returned from Vietnam. An Associated Press story of April 9 reported stories of spat-upon Vietnam veterans surfacing in several cities including Spicer, Minnesota whose mayor said he was spat upon in the San Francisco airport while coming home from Vietnam in 1971."





Lembecke has a tad more cred than you I am afraid or your "Friend of a friend" "You remember the stories" Well, I guess that finalizes it.

How naive can you be? Do some research next time before you spout urban legend. There is NO proof of this airport incident whatsoever. Because it was fabricated to get you in a jingoistic mood and tapdance in the G.O.P. Minstrel show. Think of yourself as Scott Jolson. "MAAAAMI" That is you and you don't even know it. It was a psy op tactic to get you outraged. So Gullible.



And one more nail into your coffin for the most possible lamest rumor of all time. It doesn't even make sense AND yet you bought it.

www.towardfreedom.com...



BTW just so we are on the level you take any particular story and Urbanize it just for leverage to get people in a rage. Did the spitting occur? Maybe but not in these numbers you are talking about.

And you know what's funny? Why is it so many express this theatrical dinner theater anger like it's valid? Because you heard a story? Where's your proof? We can find a irregular incident in any political agenda. And yet here it is this jingoistic schtick outrage about incidents. Stop trying to polarize every little thing. You are shucking n jiving because that's all you can do. You want to react emotionally to something you were never a part of.

And btw alot Vietnam Veterans were protesting over Vietnam alot of important issues such as Agent Orange. Things that you would rather scrub over and forget about. That's what being a patriot is about. Speaking truth to power. Anyone can soapbox outrage and make angry emoticons on this board all day and blame it on "political agenda"

I challenge you show me one photo of this airport incident. A word of adviceon't beat a dead horse. This has been debunked so many times. Unless you want to show me a airbrushed photo of John Kerry and Jane Fonda. Which Jerome Corsi admitted to photoshopping.

This is such bad theatric schtick and for shame those who applaud and make thumbs up icons to it. Let the Armchair Warrior reign cease.
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