PJ if I were a closet tory I'd make a much better job of 'promoting them' that way.
I grew up with them and I know the truth of what so many of them really are and rarely let show (and Hague's comments are about as cuddly as they can
make them but it still boils down to an incorrigible anti-EU stance that really would prefer to see the EU destroyed so as not to challenge in any way
US interests, for some weird reason).
Originally posted by Prometheus James
Could it work...
- In the very long term probably.
But I think each of us could do with sorting out the more pressing needs of our own more local arrangements.
That and the usual round(s) of rows and spats we seem to have from time to time via the WTO.
I'm not sure there is sufficient obvious common interest just yet to make it credible.
Should it work...
- Given time and a genuine willingness to actually collaborate and cooperate I see no reason why not.
In fact I'd say that in a world of finite resources and enormous environmental and ecological problems it is probably going to have to happen at some
Do you want it to work...
- In the long term (for the reasons mentioned above) yes, of course.
In the short-term I suppose that depends upon the terms.
Much as I think open markets are probably the best overall choice out of what is possible I'm not so blinkered as to imagine everything can (or even
should) operate within the parameters of the 'free market'; particularly if that means at the expense of the 'local market'.
We have to have a degree of 'protectionism' for good strategic reasoning.
Farming is a single obvious and large case in point.
'We' aren't going to be come completely dependant on 'you' (or anyone else) for foodstuffs anymore than you would with us (or anyone else).
'We' aren't enamoured with the current vogue for trying to 'outsource' everything, mainly because 'we' don't believe that either desirable or
I think we have such a long way to go on this concept that this really is just an example of coded trouble-making and simply boils down to tory
anti-EU kite-flying, horribly superficial nonsense that kind of sounds like it might be ok until a few seconds pass and it is looked at with a
critical eye for the practical difficulties and the realities it would face.
The tory party think that they might have a handful of 'allies' in the latest new entrant countries, my bet is that will last right up until the
moment that it dawns on those 'new countries' that they really are dealing with ideologically driven people crazy enough to truely desire to see the
EU diminish and grow ever more powerless, leaving us all open to the full and unaffected strength of US business.
At that point the tory party will assume their usual 'label' - but now one with all in the EU - that they have have nothing to say anyone else in
the EU would give a monkeys about.
If you really imagine the British tory party have any persuasive ability in the EU (with their history) I'd say you're kidding yourself.
[edit on 8-6-2006 by sminkeypinkey]