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Project Serpo blown wide open - exclusive expose

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posted on Oct, 3 2006 @ 09:12 AM
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So...has anyone yet identified the original "original" anonymous of the Serpo story?

Cheers

JS




posted on Oct, 3 2006 @ 09:58 AM
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So I found out about project serpo a while ago and was told on here that it is a dissinformation campain.
So my question is : What do these e-mails prove, did project serpo happen or is it just a load of crap for finding leaks in the agencies involved.
How are all you guys seeing it???



posted on Oct, 3 2006 @ 10:37 AM
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project serpo happened. it happened in the sense that Doty et al decided to hoax the community to help sell a book. Did a bunch of americans board a ship and fly to a distant planet?

yup. at the end of close encounters of the third kind and in many other sci fi books and movies and even tv shows but most likely never in the real world, where the rest of us live.



posted on Oct, 3 2006 @ 02:31 PM
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Crakeur:

So who was the original "original" anonymous then?

As far as I know, no-one seems to know.

Cheers

JS



posted on Oct, 28 2006 @ 01:33 AM
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Originally posted by jumpspace
Crakeur:

So who was the original "original" anonymous then?

As far as I know, no-one seems to know.

Cheers

JS


That is not true.

The original Anon emails were traced back to Doty. As was the Paul McGovern email in support of the serpo story.

It's all been laid out quite clearly - including emails with headers - here



posted on Oct, 29 2006 @ 10:40 PM
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Shawnna,

Not true? We will see.

The link you provided me does not provide any headers for the original anonymous, only the anonymous that was "inserted" into the whole serpo story.

...and we know that THAT anynoymous was inserted to lead the story astray...and look where we are now


The earliest email headers I could find, based on your provided link, are from 16th Feb 2006.

Like I said, has anyone found out who the ORIGINAL anonymous was?

Cheers

JS



posted on Oct, 30 2006 @ 06:57 AM
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the headers are on the site, read the whole thing, it explains the situation to the utmost detail.

well, we know doty, is the one bringing out this information, the man is an admited liar if I'm not mistaken, a practical skeptic would assume that anything out of his mouth would be pure unadulterated garbage. The connection to doty is all to controversial to just assume "o hi thar be teh aileens"

again, slurpo is a pure example, how every "situation" turns out. big claim,big hype, big let down. the repetition is a pure signal of truth.

did anyone buy a t-shirt yet?

[edit on 30-10-2006 by waffleprime]



posted on Nov, 7 2006 @ 09:57 AM
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waffleprime:

>the headers are on the site, read the whole thing, it explains the situation to the utmost detail.

If no-one can produce headers before 16th Feb 2006 then I'm afraid the original anonymous has not been identified.

I'm sure doty is a hoaxer, but who is the REAL original.

No-one has been able to answer this yet.

Cheers

JS



posted on Nov, 7 2006 @ 10:22 AM
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Originally posted by jumpspace

If no-one can produce headers before 16th Feb 2006 then I'm afraid the original anonymous has not been identified.


No-one has been able to answer this yet.

JS


The email headers on the site are from emails that were sent November, 2005.


Springer...



posted on Nov, 7 2006 @ 10:39 AM
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Thanks for that Springer


I had a look at the site and I can only find emails with the earliest headers being 16th Feb 2006.

I did read an email that Victor sent mentioning IP addresses/Bomb Shell but he also states that these IP address checks were made AFTER the original anonymous disappeared...and in that case they would have pointed back to Doty etc.

I'm still wondering who the original anonymous was, before he was conveniently "put to the side".

If you can find the original email header/s, can you please point me to them as I'm obviously clicking on the wrong links.

Cheers

JS



posted on Nov, 7 2006 @ 03:22 PM
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the original anonymous was usurped as of release 10 - everything after that was bogus. kit green gave the usurper the software to show how the headers can be forged from anywhere - victors web tv account was breached - this is all true 100% true - serpo was genuine up until release 10 - before it appeared on ATS - the ATS main serpo thread initiator (name forgotten) was the 'anonymous' usurper/ imitator - he pretended to be the original and victor believed him - resulted security compromised from DIA6/anonymous - ending the disclosure. this is 100% true - read this and copy before it gets removed - google 'serpo' and look for open minds forum for proof - see 'main serpo thread' there - read this and copy before it gets removed -

[edit on 7-11-2006 by openminds]

[edit on 7-11-2006 by openminds]



posted on Nov, 7 2006 @ 10:30 PM
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openminds:

I'm 99.999% (recurring) sure that the original anonymous was also taken out. The reason I believe this is that I have other third party information that collaborates the original story.

I do take my hat off to the PTB to do what they have done with serpo though - even though I predicted the final outcome before it even happened


Oh well.

Cheers

JS



posted on Nov, 8 2006 @ 06:25 AM
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Doty is starting to piss me off. It's about time that idiot was prosecuted for wasting everyone's time.


[edit on 8-11-2006 by Mogget]



posted on Nov, 8 2006 @ 08:04 AM
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Originally posted by jumpspace
waffleprime:

>the headers are on the site, read the whole thing, it explains the situation to the utmost detail.

If no-one can produce headers before 16th Feb 2006 then I'm afraid the original anonymous has not been identified.

I'm sure doty is a hoaxer, but who is the REAL original.

No-one has been able to answer this yet.

Cheers

JS



Please go back and review all of the information. The original Anon email was traced back to Doty - no question about it.

There is no "REAL" original Anon - it all stemmed from Doty.

I do believe a more accurate question would be..............

So who was Doty working with on this particular episode of his disinformation/deception/hoaxing career? That question may very well be answered............

Sooner rather than later..........

Always,
Shawnna

[edit on 8-11-2006 by Shawnna]



posted on Nov, 8 2006 @ 10:00 AM
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Shawnna:

>There is no "REAL" original Anon - it all stemmed from Doty.

The Serpo story had cred. up until Victor was "sacked", hey - even information about Serpo on ATS went missing...now why would that happen? Remember the list of the missing air force personnel that so "happened" to correspond with the numbers in the Serpo team? Funny how all that info went missing eh? (not sure if it was ATS or the poster that pulled this info though, but it DID get pulled from the Serpo thread)

Victor was "sacked" by the second Anon (an infiltrator put in place to discredit the Serpo story). The first (original/REAL) Anon was either dead or locked up someplace at this point in time.

Let me ask you a simple question:

Do you have any headers from any Anon emails BEFORE Victor was sacked?

Cheers

JS



posted on Nov, 8 2006 @ 11:17 AM
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This may not be the right thread, but I want to restate something that gets lost in all the nonsense:

The concept of an exchange is plausible, if you buy into the theory that we have been visited for centuries and our government is hiding the truth. That does not mean Serpo is true. But the concept is plausible. So, based on the nonsense that has come out of serpo, the entire concept is discounted. Isn't that the basic definition of misinformation and swerving the public?

I do agree there is no way I would buy into anything to do with Doty, but there may be madness behind his method.



posted on Nov, 8 2006 @ 11:49 AM
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I can't believe people still question any validity to this nonsense but let's take a different approach for those that think there might be a shred of reality in this giant steaming pile of slurp.

when RU began releasing their report, the accused didn't even attempt to refute the mounting evidence, nor did they try and counter any of the accusations. Rather, they took to threats and other nefarious schemes (viruses etc).

If this had even one iota of truth to it, the accused would be better served by arguing in favor of the story, not name calling and threats. Rather than look like noble men fighting for what they believe in, they all appear as cornered rats, violently attacking.

if the actual evidence doesn't convince everyone, the childish retaliatory response should.



posted on Nov, 8 2006 @ 01:19 PM
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Crakeur:

>I can't believe people still question any validity to this nonsense

I can't believe why you question my mentality, rather than answering the simple question I have asked on NUMEROUS occasions


Can ANYONE produce email headers from Anon BEFORE Victor was "sacked"?

It's funny how a "select few" who support the "Project Serpo blown wide open" web-site are avoiding this simple question.

I wonder why?

For your information, I'll quote from an ORIGINAL transcript I have that was transmitted over Ham Radio on the 11th April 1989 (the author of this transmission is now dead - surprise, surprise). This relates DIRECTLY to Serpo:

"CONTINGENCY PLAN TO CONTAIN OR DELAY RELEASE OF INFORMATION"
This plan called for the use of MAJESTIC TWELVE as a disinformation ploy to delay and confuse the release of information should anyone get close to the truth. It was selected because of the similarity of spelling and the similarity to MJ-12. It was designed to confuse memory and to result in a fruitless search for material which did not exist.

Quite scary really, isn't it


Cheers

JS



posted on Nov, 8 2006 @ 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by jumpspaceI can't believe why you question my mentality, rather than answering the simple question I have asked on NUMEROUS occasions


I wasn't commenting on your mentality. Rather, I was pointing out that if the evidence doesn't convince, the ridiculous behavior of the accused should. Not a statement directed at anyone in particular.

I dig the radio quote. Got any references to it or are you quoting it from your memory of the event?



posted on Nov, 8 2006 @ 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by Crakeur
I can't believe people still question any validity to this nonsense but let's take a different approach for those that think there might be a shred of reality in this giant steaming pile of slurp.


Again, I do not believe there is one shred of proof that SERPO existed. However, I do believe the concept of exchange is plausible. Why would it not be if you believe we have been visited since the beginning? If you believe the government conspires to withhold information from the masses, why is it not plausible that Serpo was a giant disinformation platform to swerve those to discount an exchange because of the tom foolery and blatant lies of a group of disinformation specialists? Think about it, do you really think someone would release logs and photos of an exchange program ???? Geez, we cannot even get the government to admit aliens and UFOs exist. The entire release of information was a purposeful attempt to discredit the idea of an exchange and make some money doing it.

We are shooting the messengers, which is exactly what we are supposed to do!



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