Well, I had a quick read and it's interesting...though I didn't read everything...have other things to do...so please excuse me if I've completely
I have a "gut feel" that TM, BR, RD and "whoever" are all in it together to discredit serpo and TM is the "project manager" - he seems the smart
one and even knows Latin! They're just "making wars" between themselves to divert the attention and introduce more smoke and mirrors.
It's a classic play, I must say - very smart.
The following is based on my "gut feel" as stated two paragraphs ago:
Interesting hypothesis, jumpspace. What do you think about Rick Doty's role in this? Assuming the information posted by "Tacitus Monroe"
here is factual, I'm curious how your hypothesis plays out in that scenario?
Now, *assuming* TM, RD and BR are all in it together, the following makes sense:
Extracted from that link you gave, here's the four points:
>1. The vast majority of emails and packages purporting to be from
Request Anonymous can be traced back to Richard C Doty.
Well, considering TM knows that RD was put in place, why wouldn't he say this - he probably helped RD create the emails. It's also interesting that
TM "implies" that he's not sure 100% though...it keeps an option open for him to work other angles..."just in case".
2. Information contained in the header of these emails can be traced back to computers used by Richard C Doty.
Well he just said this in point 1 so he's obviously repeating it to gain "form" in the minds of the readers.
3. All "Anonymous" material sent to Bill Ryan is dispatched by Richard C Doty with Bill Ryan's full knowledge.
Well it would be - BR and RD are of the same "club".
4. Victor Martinez and Bill Ryan have kept this information hidden from the public.
Well, I'd like to see what he has to say on this and what factual evidence he has as to how VM and BR were in cahoots. It's also interesting that
this last sentence has a double meaning...once again, very smart. This last statement is the give away- make a few statements that you know are
factual and then throw one in at the last moment with the name of your mark (VM) linked to your link who is now discredited (BR). Mission
I believe BR was put in place to continue to "distribute info" but, over time, it would become "murky" (holes would develop,
uncredible info would be provided etc) and BR would eventually be discredited.
Could be - but why? Do you have any insight as to the motivation of doing something like this?
Remember that there was a lot of people interested in serpo so one, two or three individuals can't go against this groundswell - it's way too big.
The best thing to do is "take along" those same people with the same trust and then have those same people start questioning the story themselves.
By "taking out" the original anonymous and subsequently sacking VM and handing the reins to BR, they basically handed the "followers" a new
"saviour" - BR...but this "saviour" is tainted. Over time, as the the quality of the information supplied by the tainted saviour diminishes, the
"followers" start asking questions themselves. BR becomes discredited and, subsequently, so does the whole serpo story. Once again, smart play.
If serpo was really true, do you think the PTB would let it out?. Definitely not. It was cause MAJOR distrust in most (if not all)
governments and who knows what would result.
That is indeed the traditional "school of thought". Not sure I agree though.
On a personal level, I agree with you, however most people have so much fear pumped into them today that they don't even know who they are...though I
think ATS people are definitely NOT in that group
I would be very interested in hearing more about the two very clear meanings - especially which one you feel was not laid out.
The one I recall was the email from Victor where I believe he was just explaining "how it went down" from his belief and now from his knowledge...it
was in part one near the beginning.
We are trying hard to present the facts. I know it isn't going to be humanly possible to keep our own feelings about the information from
coming through but I would like to know what your perspective is. We need all the constructive feedback we can get.
Shawnna, glad you have come across this way. Many people would start personal attacks and I was expecting that...I was also expecting my first post to
be my last. You've approached this quite intelligently and I respect you for that...for now
Also forgot to mention:
serpo.info was created on Created On:17-Apr-2006 19:31:58 UTC so I assume it was created by TM (and the club) to bring serpo down. Have you got the
dates of BR, RD and TM's initial involvement?
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