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I was never a big fan of the Geneva Convention. A country that plays by the rules is put at a disadvantage going against countries or organizations that don't.
Can someone tell me when Al-Queda signed the Geneva Convention?
Originally posted by sardion2000
I was never a big fan of the Geneva Convention. A country that plays by the rules is put at a disadvantage going against countries or organizations that don't.
Can someone tell me when Al-Queda signed the Geneva Convention?
That's a nice strawman. Since they don't play by the rules neither shall we! Can you please tell me why the entire world hates and resents your country again? I cannot come up with an answer....
Originally posted by semperfortis
Grover,
Don't you think that much has to do with the fact that we are #1. We are the biggest target to direct their frustrations at. we know just from our own society, that it is easier to blame someone for our short-comings, than to blame ourselves. It is also very easy to hate that which we do not understand or can not compete with.
Originally posted by grover
@#$%^&*!!!! I am so bloody sick and tired of the damned idiotic "blame America first" excuse for NOT looking at how our policies affect how the rest of the world sees us...it is so simplistic it makes me sick. Of course the fact that we are the world's superpower affects how we are viewed but so does our reteroic and our conduct, and when the two are in such glaring conflict as they are, what the bloody hell do you expect. Get your damned heads out of the sand and take a look around, you might be surprised at what you see.
Originally posted by zappafan1
Originally posted by grover
@#$%^&*!!!! I am so bloody sick and tired of the damned idiotic "blame America first" excuse for NOT looking at how our policies affect how the rest of the world sees us...it is so simplistic it makes me sick. Of course the fact that we are the world's superpower affects how we are viewed but so does our reteroic and our conduct, and when the two are in such glaring conflict as they are, what the bloody hell do you expect. Get your damned heads out of the sand and take a look around, you might be surprised at what you see.
REPLY: I know.... it must hurt terribly to know that in Iraq and Iran our policies liberated some 70 million people, and two generations ago our ideals helped the liberation of hundreds of millions in Europe from Communism and Fascism.
Where the hell do you get off laying that stupid trip on me? I know good and well we have done plenty of good in the world and it does not hurt me terribly thank you very much but I also know we have shot ourselves in the foot plenty of times too and it does no good to ignore our failures...we can only learn from them.
Originally posted by grover
@#$%^&*!!!! I am so bloody sick and tired of the damned idiotic "blame America first" excuse for NOT looking at how our policies affect how the rest of the world sees us...
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Washington Post
Twenty-seven religious leaders, including megachurch pastor Rick Warren, Nobel laureate Elie Wiesel and Cardinal Theodore E. McCarrick of Washington, have signed a statement urging the United States to "abolish torture now - without exceptions."
The statement, being published in newspaper advertisements starting today, is the opening salvo of a new organization called the National Religious Campaign Against Torture, which has formed in response to allegations of human rights abuse at U.S. detention centers in Iraq, Afghanistan and Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
Titled "Torture is a Moral Issue," the statement says that torture "violates the basic dignity of the human person" and "contradicts our nation's most cherished values." "Nothing less is at stake in the torture abuse crisis than the soul of our nation. What does it signify if torture is condemned in word but allowed in deed?" it asks.
The signers come from a broad range of denominations and include notable religious conservatives, such as the Rev. Ted Haggard, president of the National Association of Evangelicals; Archbishop Demetrios, primate of the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America; and the Rev. William J. Byron, former president of Catholic University.
By suggesting that recent abuse of prisoners may not be just an aberration but a reflection of U.S. policy, the statement contains an implicit challenge to the Bush administration, according to some signers.
"I'm not persuaded that this issue has been put to bed yet by the Bush administration," said David P. Gushee, a philosophy professor at Union University in Tennessee who wrote an influential article against torture this year in Christianity Today, an evangelical magazine. "I'm worried that we still don't truly know what is going on in all our detention centers around the world."
Originally posted by Strangerous
So all those troops from elsewhere looking after 1/3rd of Iraq are ficticious?
The 15,000 NATO troops in Afghanistan are ficticious?
Aid flown-in after Katrina didn't happen either?
IIRC they're from the 'other countries' you're so quick to dismiss
You're very quick to forget when people come to your aid aren't you?