Iraqi students massacred

In the latest incident of sectarian violence, 12 Iraqi students were among 21 people pulled off a bus and shot to death yesterday in Diyala province, northeast of Baghdad. The dead included 19 Shiite Turkomen and 2 Kurds. Sunni students on the bus were spared execution.



Students on their way to take exams. That should strike a chord with our younger members. The fact that Sunni students on the bus had their lives spared indicates sectarian targets.

After an incident such as this, I cannot understand how anyone can still say that these terrorists are "freedom fighters". Couple this incident with the eight heads found this past week and we see what these terrorists really are.

[edit on 4-6-2006 by jsobecky]

[edit on 4-6-2006 by jsobecky]

In every war there are attrocities and acts of violence on both sides. What we keep seeing here in Iraq, are attrocities and acts of violence perpetrated by and on their own citizens. This must an attempt to further alienate the anti-war faction in the U.S. What other possible reason can be attributed to these actions?

It worked in Vietnam, it is working here. If they commit enough acts of violence against innocent civilians, the end result will of course be interpreted as a root cause of the war and more and more activism against our presence there. A very subtle and effective means for the radical Muslim to obtain complete control of the area, their obvious ultimate goal.

The thing that bothers me the most is the vast number of Americans that have never and will never make the connection. The connection that their feelings are being manipulated and people are dying because they are so completely malleable in their convictions. The complete and overall support the average American had for our Government doing anything and everything to combat the Radical Muslim sect that appears to be aligned against us, has so eroded with a sense of relaxation and the "it wont happen again" syndrome that again we are in danger of closing the barn door after the horse is out.

So another instance where the American People will blame the U.S. because some fundamental nuts killed some of their own people. Looks like another day in Iraq.

these people are in no way freedom fighters. They never were though. Your grouping them with the same terrorists that were attacking us before we went to iraq. They are not the same people though. These are acts of violence which has been bottled up in the area long before we were ever there. The terrorists that were attacking us, are not the same terrorists attacking these people. This is violence from religious views in the area, and would be going on regardless of our involvement. To think though that these people would be attacking us if we weren't in iraq though would be incorrect.

groups like Al Qaeda are not to be interchangable with the sunni shia conflict. Al Qaeda is not responsible for alot of the iraq attacks. Its a conflict which we are merely a part of now, because we put ourselves there. We went after al qaeda and now we are caught up in a battle between shia and sunni which has lasted ages.

Originally posted by semperfortis
In every war there are attrocities and acts of violence on both sides. What we keep seeing here in Iraq, are attrocities and acts of violence perpetrated by and on their own citizens. This must an attempt to further alienate the anti-war faction in the U.S. What other possible reason can be attributed to these actions?

Well, to me it looks like civil war between various religious sects and has absolutely nothing to do with the opinion of Americans or any other country for that matter.
The sad part is, that our young men and women in the military are caught in the middle of a civil war, in a country that is incapable of forming any type of stable government. What we have here is a war that was poorly planned, poorly executed with no exit strategy. Just what the chicken hawks and war profiteers wanted in the first place.

It's a brave new world, welcome to the monkey house!

How the heck do they even know who's Sunni and who's a Shiite?

I agree semper that it would be stupid to blame it on the US. at the same time its stupid to have involved ourselves there. We should have known first off that once we invaded and threw out saddam that the violence would erupt in a mass amount because the majority group (shia) would now be in control. The sunni ruled the country and are the minority. We took out saddam and now the entire thing is going to change. Couldnt we have seen that coming from the start? this religious war has been going on for ages, saddam supressed it. what made us think that it wouldnt just spark right back up with us caught right in the middle?

also to think that they are doing this to make an anti war crowd is not really the case. They are doing this because its what they have been doing since ages ago. Its a religious war, they are going to kill innocent people because they want to kill off the opposing side. They just want us out because we support "democracy" and in a democracy the majority is going to rule the country (shia).

Although it is no secret that I support the administration. HAHAHAHA

I have to agree grim, that to even imagine that we will be able to effect much less change, the radical religious views of the people in that area, is ludicrous to the extreme. Too much history, too much indoctrination and far too much indoctrination.

Like most people, I have far too many questions and too few answers.

thats why it was a war knowing full well it would have no end in sight. I saw it since day one and there wasnt a thing I could do to stop it from happening. Now we are stuck there, go figure.

Interesting.
And very sad

A page right out of Saddam's Glory days. Shoot the Shiites, Kill the Kurds.
Maybe the murderers don't realize that this could serve as a reminder:
Life under the thumb of Hussein.

The sectarian violence going on in Iraq is tragic and sad. To think that some people in the world still think that such conduct is permissible and desirable is horiffying.