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Iraq doesn't buy US explanation!

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posted on Jun, 4 2006 @ 03:50 AM
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This article clearly shows how quickly things are unraveling in Iraq. With Top Iraqi officials questioning the up until now unchecked power of US Troops in and around Iraq. With the massacre at Heditha and the allegations of other civilian related fatalities across Iraq American authority and legitimacy in Iraq are being seriously questioned.
 



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BAGHDAD - Iraq vowed on Saturday to press on with its own probe into the deaths of civilians in a U.S. raid on the town of Ishaqi, rejecting the U.S. military's exoneration of its forces.

Adnan al-Kazimi, an aide to Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, said the government would also demand an apology from the United States and compensation for the victims in several cases, including the alleged massacre in the town of Haditha last year.

"We have from more than one source that the Ishaqi killings were carried out under questionable circumstances. More than one child was killed. This report was not fair for the Iraqi people and the children who were killed," he told Reuters.




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This doesn't' come a shock to me. I have been expecting some kind of reaction similar to this since the construction on the largest Embassy in the world, complete with its own swimming pool, was being built in a country that we were going to "stand down" in when they "stood up".

This will most defin tally complicate things between the fledging democracy in Iraq and the super-power that has become the United States. With US authority questioned I am not sure exactly how things will get better, not only in the middle east but here in the states as well.

With tempers flaring on both sides about this issue, with one side calling the other fearful traitors to the other side calling the previous a War monger. The name calling in Washington is what has brought us to this situation, and it seems as if it is about to blow up in our proverbial faces.

tensions on the rise how long before someone does something "stupid".

Mod Edit: spelling



[edit on 4-6-2006 by DontTreadOnMe]




posted on Jun, 4 2006 @ 12:28 PM
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The Iraqi gov't has every right to conduct their own investigation. Our military has investigated and cleared the troops involved.

Don't say that the military can't investigate itself. All indications are that there will be serious consequences handed down over Haditha.

I'm more concerned with the attitude that the troops are automatically assumed guilty by one of our own citizens.

And what does the size of our new embassy have to do with anything?

If you want horror and shock, look no further than the students that were shot to death yesterday. That is the kind of atrocity that should concern you. But people don't look at that, or consider what our troops face every day over there. All they want to do is condemn the US.

And then they have the gall to say "I support the troops, but I don't support the war". No they don't support the troops.

In Ishaqi, the troops got their man, a bomb maker. Unfortunately, they also got some civilians. But that will continue to happen as long as civilians harbor terrorists.



posted on Jun, 4 2006 @ 07:43 PM
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We are illegally in that country....what our soldiers are facing is horrible and terrifying. However, that does not excuse the institution as whole from the acts of atrocity purpotrayed by the individual. If this were an isolated incident I would not have posted my topic with such an inflamatory tone however given the Abu Grhaib scandal the extrodenary rendition scandal the secret prison scandal and what now are appearing to be NUMEROUS cases of civilians being killed. Collateral damage is a callous and inhuman term. They are deaths caused by an Illegal War, started on False Pretenses.

What does the size of our embassy have to do with anything? HUH...its HUGE....its PERMANENT...and more importantly our government said we were there TEMPORARILY if they are building 10+ embassies in a country smaller than Texas what does that tell you....that its not permanent and that it was about control over the middle east.

Im sorry but I do support our troops....I come from a military family I can't help but support them but i do not agree with the way that they are being used nor do i agree with the callousness displayed by Washington Politicians in thier rhetoric, be it left or right, when discussing the iraq war the war on terror or the troops in general.



posted on Jun, 4 2006 @ 09:15 PM
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The fact of the matter is that the civil war that the U.S. State department claims to know nothing about is entering a new phase in its "development."

Insurgency eventually leads to civil war in most nations. Iraq is no different. The knot-heads in Washington seem to think that if they SAY there is no civil war...that...there is no civil war.

These student kills are just another step in what will turn out to be a long blood ymarch for the Iraqis. America can't stop that civil war. The most that can be hoped for is to back the new government, and hope it doesn't fall.



posted on Jun, 4 2006 @ 10:03 PM
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I would like to visit that embassy and do a few laps in that new, probably olympic sized pool on a nice hot summer Baghdad day. Nothing like feeling comfortable and safe while the land just outside is breaking down in gun battles and explosion in a country which you have just siezed control . Gotta love it


I'll see you in America-Iraq everyone. Ill be on that new roller coaster ride they build in the green zone


The Iraq probe will unfortunatly accomplish nothing.



posted on Jun, 4 2006 @ 11:39 PM
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As the Iraqi civil war gains momentum, you may get your wish.



posted on Jun, 5 2006 @ 12:09 AM
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You'll love this, then....




Marine's wife: US troops were out of control in Haditha

The wife of a Marine staff sergeant from the same battalion accused of killing civilians in Haditha, Iraq told Newsweek that "a total breakdown" in disclipine including drug and alcohol abuse may have been partly to blame.

"There were problems in Kilo Company with drugs, alcohol, hazing, you name it," said the woman unidentified by Newsweek. "I think it's more than possible that these guys were totally tweaked out on speed or something when they shot those civilians in Haditha."

On the other hand, in a Time Magazine cover story about the Haditha killings (Registration required link), a freelance photoghapher who spent five months in Iraq traveling with Kilo company called it the "most human" unit he embedded with.

More...



Oh, brother.... :shk:


[edit on 5-6-2006 by loam]



posted on Jun, 5 2006 @ 01:48 AM
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I don't "love" any of this. I'm just acknowleding that the situation is out of U.S. control, and it will have to run it's course before things get any better. Eventually...some day...the Iraqis will get tired of killing each other. Then, and only then, will they be "open" to making things better in their own country.



posted on Jun, 9 2006 @ 03:27 PM
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It now appears that I was right. The Iranians are said to be thinking about the proposal made by the Western powers. Naturally, this consideration will take a few weeks. Can't possibly imagine what the Iranians might be doing during that time. Wouldn't possibly have anything to do with the pursuit of their own nuclear program. The must be knitting.



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