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reply posted on 4-6-2006 @ 03:51 PM by LeftBehind
Operation Northwoods did have a few plans that killed people, however no where in the plan do they plan on killing American Citizens.

The first quote posted comes right after a detailed plan on faking the sinking of a surface ship.

BTW, please provide a source with the external source tags.

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We could blow up a drone (unmanned) vessel anywhere in the Cuban waters. We could arrange to cause such incident in the vicinity of Havana or Santiago as a spectacular result of Cuban attack from the air or sea, or both. The presence of Cuban planes or ships merely investigating the intent of the vessel could be fairly compelling evidence that the ship was taken under attack. The nearness to Havana or Santiago would add credibility especially to those people that might have heard the blast or have seen the fire. The US could follow up with an air/sea rescue operation covered by US fighters to "evacuate" remaining members of the non-existent crew. Casualty lists in US newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation.

emphasis mine


The second quote sure seems convincing when taken out of context. However the full plan clearly states that no Americans were to die. The college students would really be Government Agents evacuated before the plane blew up.

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8. It is possible to create an incident which will demonstrate convincingly that a Cuban aircraft has attacked and shot down a chartered civil airliner enroute from the United States to Jamaica, Guatemala, Panama or Venezuela. The destination would be chosen only to cause the flight plan route to cross Cuba. The passengers could be a group of college students off on a holiday or any grouping of persons with a common interest to support chartering a non-scheduled flight.

a. An aircraft at Eglin AFB would be painted and numbered as an exact duplicate for a civil registered aircraft belonging to a CIA proprietary organization in the Miami area. At a designated time the duplicate would be substituted for the actual civil aircraft and would be loaded with the selected passengers, all boarded under carefully prepared aliases. The actual registered aircraft would be converted to a drone.

b. Take off times of the drone aircraft and the actual aircraft will be scheduled to allow a rendezvous south of Florida. From the rendezvous point the passenger-carrying aircraft will descend to minimum altitude and go directly into an auxiliary field at Eglin AFB where arrangements will have been made to evacuate the passengers and return the aircraft to its original status. The drone aircraft meanwhile will continue to fly the filed flight plan. When over Cuba the drone will being transmitting on the international distress frequency a "MAY DAY" message stating he is under attack by Cuban MIG aircraft. The transmission will be interrupted by destruction of the aircraft which will be triggered by radio signal. This will allow ICAO radio



Still not sure why this has anything to do with 9-11. There are no plans in ON to kill american citizens.

Derdy, care to show us how 9-11 myths misleads people.

It often helps to get opposing viewpoints when you want to find the truth. I watched all of Loose Change, and all of 9-11 Eyewitness. My convinctions didn't change because of it and all I lost was a few hours of my time.

Perhaps you should watch the whole of Screw Loose Change, it might not convince you but it might give you a broader perspective. You'll never learn anything only looking at what agrees with your opinion.


reply posted on 4-6-2006 @ 04:09 PM by mrwupy
Just to clarify, Here are the Northwoods documents:

Operation Northwoods (PDF)

I would say that by waging a terror campeign against the Cuban community in Florida they would certainly run the risk of killing citizens. Especially Cuban citizens.

wupy


reply posted on 4-6-2006 @ 04:27 PM by derdy
Originally posted by LeftBehind
Still not sure why this has anything to do with 9-11. There are no plans in ON to kill american citizens.

Derdy, care to show us how 9-11 myths misleads people.

It often helps to get opposing viewpoints when you want to find the truth. I watched all of Loose Change, and all of 9-11 Eyewitness. My convinctions didn't change because of it and all I lost was a few hours of my time.

Perhaps you should watch the whole of Screw Loose Change, it might not convince you but it might give you a broader perspective. You'll never learn anything only looking at what agrees with your opinion.


I'm actually working on a piece to present my argument. I hope to have it done soon. If you care to take the time, go
here. It's pretty easy to see if you do any amount of research. It's pure obfuscation and is clearly misleading people. I would accept an excuse of a mistake, but the author of the site clearly states that he does research. That being said, the author knows that the argument presented there is to make something very malignant into something rather benign. (If you can even understand the argument! I found my head spinning from the obfuscation!)

I'll post my piece when I'm finished.

As for seeking the truth and getting different viewpoints; been there, done that. Our government is complicit in this just as they were complicit in a number of terror campaigns in foreign countries to promote their policitical and economic interests.

As for the Operation Northwoods, it did call for violent acts in American cities.
read here page 8, point 4 of the document. (bottom of page 11 in pdf)
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