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Originally posted by grover
I took the test and guess what? I AM A LIBERAL!!! and here is how it describes liberal:
LIBERALS usually embrace freedom of choice in personal
matters, but tend to support significant government control of the
economy. They generally support a government-funded "safety net"
to help the disadvantaged, and advocate strict regulation
of business. Liberals tend to favor environmental regulations,
defend civil liberties and free expression, support government action
to promote equality, and tolerate diverse lifestyles.
so tell me what is so terribly bad about all that?
Originally posted by grover
as I like to say, the only difference between the republicans and the democrats is at least the democrats try and kiss ya before they tell ya to bend over and with the republicans it more akin to date rape.
Originally posted by ceci2006
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Muaddib spent his time attacking the nature of what I asked and refused to write an Op/Ed piece in rebuttal. Even to this day, he has not.
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Originally posted by ceci2006
Unfortunately, for myself and Muaddib, we got into a spirited debate in which he hurled insults at me for what I posted.
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Originally posted by ceci2006
Semperfortis, whom I respect very highly, did. He had the courage to write about his feelings regarding the country and the POTUS. After he did, I stopped my dissent and answered his post.
Originally posted by ceci2006
And in this op/ed, Semper has more bravery and candor than Muaddib did on the same issue. And despite the fact we see things differently, he has shown that he will engage in a debate in a forthright manner especially when discussing his views. So, unlike what Muaddib says, I do not see all conservatives in the same way.
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Originally posted by ceci2006
So, these posts in grover's thread were not an attempt to deride the "true conservative spirit" that needs to take back the Republicans. Instead, I was curious--as grover was--about the extremists of the party who attempt to sabotage our basic Constitutional rights in order to continue their stranglehold over the nation. I tried to do it without attacks or derision.
Originally posted by ceci2006
Instead, I looked for academic evidence and investigation to broaden my understanding of this subject matter.
Originally posted by thermopolis
Parinoid? as earlier stated..........ATS is parinoid.................just saying many conservatives get beat down by members and mods all too often.
But grover is right as is Souljah............Demoncrat or Republicate are all the same in "dubya's" warped world. Good hard Conservative or true "liberal" is OK. Take a freakin stand on issues.
Originally posted by TheBandit795
Lately???
You mean like since at least 1913 government was intertwined with business.. When businessmen began to print federal notes.
Originally posted by jsobecky
grover
Re: definition of a liberal:
Some of those same definitions apply to conservatives also, such as freedom of choice in personal matters, defend civil liberties and free expression, and tolerate diverse lifestyles. At least they apply to me, and I consider myself conservative. Or maybe moderate.
Originally posted by grimreaper797
actually astronomer it was before that. It was the eisenhower administration.
Originally posted by grimreaper797
actually astronomer it was before that. It was the eisenhower administration.
Originally posted by ceci2006
All I can say, Muaddib is that you protest too much.
Originally posted by ceci2006
I asked you first and you did not honor my request. But you, have done nothing but degrade not only me, but other people who do not agree with you. That is all you do. You don't offer anything more that is of intellectual worth for us to learn about conservativism. And sadly, you didn't on grover's thread.
Originally posted by ceci2006
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So, all I can say is speak for yourself. I will be honestly amazed if you do write something that sheds light on the conservative view instead of attacking the opinions of other people, including mine.