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Originally posted by TheBorg
And maybe this little argument you two seem to be transferring from thread to thread could be taken to the U2U realm, where such arguments should be kept. Please move back onto topic, and stop bickering.
Originally posted by Muaddib
Well Borg the thing is that this thread is exactly about what people like grover and ceci have been doing in the forums lately. It must stop, at least in these forums.
I am tired of the bickering, insults, demeaning rhetoric and patronizing comments, but being quiet everytime someone from the left wants to resort to such tactics is not going to make it go away.
Originally posted by ceci2006
But I am not arguing, Borg. I am simply stating my case. Believe me, I would like the thread to return back to the subject matter that Semperfortis had proposed. And for my part, I will not mention any more about this situation with Muaddib.
But let's wait and see if Muaddib will even honor this request to keep things civil and stay on course with the subject matter.
Originally posted by grover
I for one consider the quality of an arguement to determine its validity... I can respect a well reasoned arguement even if iI disagree with it but when you start resorting to personal attacks and belittlement well then as far as i am concerned, you are not worth listening to. Kinda like the difference between David Brooks and Ann Coulter.
"Considering the fact that you Republicans had a qualified candidate for president (John McCain) who could have beaten Al Gore hands down, no questions or hanging chads about it, why on earth did you guys run with an unqualified wennie (Bush) for the position?"
Originally posted by semperfortis
My only answer can be that I do not see his policies as detrimental to the country at all. Now I am against the spending the Republicans have been doing lately, but I support the tax cuts, economic decisions, war on terror and mildly the border issues.(very complicated)
"The market is...concerned that the (US) Federal Reserve will raise interest rates further. That would be positive for the dollar and negative for the gold price,"
I just do not see the terrible things that many are saying as being in anyway founded on fact. They are opinions, and like mine can either be wrong or right. I look at jobs, housing and the overall state of the economy and see wonderful growth and low interest rates. I hate that we are in a war, and I think it is un-winnable, yet I appreciate the fact that we are fighting over there and not over here. I do not like the wiretapping, but understand the need for information in regards to possible terrorist activities.
Stocks around the world have fallen sharply Thursday as fears build over U.S. interest rates.
The Australian market lost $25 billion of its value in its biggest fall since the September 11 2001 terrorist attacks, while Tokyo's Nikkei 225 plunged nearly 500 points. European bourses fell an average 3% in their worst day in more than a year.
Behind the falls is a concern the U.S. Federal Reserve will continue raising interest rates in response to heightened concerns over inflation.
Whilst slamming stocks those same fears have seen a steadying in the U.S. dollar which has been sliding for several months.
NEW YORK, June 8 /PRNewswire/ -- The U.S. housing industry - developers, builders, realtors and others - may understandably view National Homeownership Month (June) with mixed feelings. Yes, the housing market has enjoyed a sustained period of high demand and high prices in many parts of the country, but now the tide is turning.
Indeed, new indicators, including the increasing inventory of unsold homes languishing on the market, point to a rapid cooling of the U.S. housing market in many once-hot areas.
TOKYO (Reuters) - The dollar was mired near a one-year low against the euro on Monday after surprisingly soft U.S. employment data last week helped squelch expectations for the Federal Reserve to raise overnight rates again this month.
The 75,000 jobs created in May was far short of forecasts for a 175,000 increase, providing more evidence of slowing economic growth that will likely help cool core inflation now running at the upper end of the comfort zone of some Fed officials.
But expectations of a coming Fed pause, along with worries that Washington wants a weaker currency to help curtail its massive trade deficit, have all helped to undermine the dollar this year.
I personally do not like McCain's back and forth movement on issues. One minute he seems to be right wing then when the wind blows he moves left. I feel that Bush has held the ground even under the withering fire he has gotten lately. His convictions are true and he is standing strong. I admire that.
Originally posted by grover
As for you Muaddib once again you conviently ignore my repeated statements of respect for mainstream conservatives and Republicans (even though I disagree with them) and that it is the neo cons (what an appro word, con) and hard core right wing that I take objection to.
Originally posted by grover
Muaddib does however have a track record of attacking and twisting peoples words around, especially if there is any criticism of either his beloved war or worshiped bush is present.