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Originally posted by smallpeeps
Aha, but only one of us believes in Satan.
Supporting? The demons and Satan are supporting the premise of rebirth? As a further question, do you believe that non-christians are destined for hell?
I say demons are behind the church and the misrepresentation of Christ. Would Christ be happy with the behavior of the US Christian Right? What kind of bomb would he prefer, conventional or nuclear? And how about the Catholic Church?
The Abrahamists want to make you believe this life is all there is, which is precisely the technique used by Satan in tempting Jesus himself in your bible. Did he try to convince Jesus about the nature of his soul? Did Satan try to advance the premise of rebirth, ever? Does the bible discuss rebirth at all? NO because the Abrahamists will never speak of it.
I asked you to describe how demons work and you cannot.
Yearning for the "goal" of heavenly rest with God sounds similar to the Jihadist who is so convinced that he'll blow himself up.
Are there demons in his head confusing him also?
Are all Abrahamists going to somehow hold hands in Heaven? If so, then why are they causing so much crap here on Earth?
Nah, I don't need the bible to be able to recognize evil when I see it.
As I mentioned, the original Christians accepted rebirth as being a Christian truth.
Originally posted by Shane
I'd say again, your very observant. The "Church" fails in teaching God's Word. It teaches the Doctrines of the Sect. Is this a manifestation of Demonic influence? OF COURSE IT IS. What do those TWO churches in Revelation Teach? They taught, "WHO THE CAINITE IS". Those, (in this case), who claim to be Jewish, but are of their Father, SATAN. (Paraphrased)
Do you get this my friend? The direct and specific implication of the early portion of Revelations speaks to this. 2 Churches taught who the CAINITE IS.
No, You maybe confused here. To be absent of THIS BODY, is to be present before the Lord. We return to our prior state, our Spiritual State, and reside in 1 of 2 places. Either in Heaven, or outside of Heaven. Those outside, could be the likes of Hitler, Stalin, and other notable bad guy's. Those inside, would have their names written in the Book of Life. (And this has Nothing to do with Judgement).
So, when this Body we have has expired, we have our Spiritual Body, that departs for the rest of eternity to be spent with God. Life is not all there is, and the only reason, this life takes place, is to give the Eternal Spirit, a chance to utilize, Free Will. It is that choice, that defines our destination.
And I would ask? Have you looked at my Topic, Satan and his decendants? This is how Satan and the Fallen and thier Spawn work Pal.
Shake your head and quit associating it all as evil. There are very Nice Moslems, and there are very nice Jews, and there are very nice Christians. Not all are extremist under Satan's control and spin. Of course some are, but they do not represent these Faiths. ((They Claim to, but I noted about that above already.)
I am sure you are pleased to note this with comfort and security that you are correct, but I can not help but think you are wrong. I am not saying you are, but I think you are. Why? You deny the evil you wish to recognize. To you, Satan is a fabrication. And yes, thats exactly what He WANTS YOU TO CONTINUE TO BELIEVE.
Is this the basis of your confusion? To be Born Again? I am asking, because this may be the conflict that has lead to these questions you raise. Let me know, because, YES, 100%, Christian believe in being reborn, as in Born Again, but this is not reflective in a Rebirth, in the sense you imply. It's a completely different matter, that really is a strange way of identifying they have accept Christ as their personal saviour, and dedicated their life to trying to live as Christ lived his life. None can, but the goal is a good one.
I really enjoy you questions, and remember, Look at my post on Satan.
Originally posted by smallpeeps
No, I don't get it. I've not heard of the term "Cainite". These are Cain's (Satans?) descendants?
Also I don't see John's revelation at Patmos to be any more special than Nostradamus or anything like that. I do not see it as prophecy and it seems derivative from other works which John surely read like the Book of Enoch.
Okay so let me see if I understand: Is that right?
Why is it then, that Satan (a glorious angel who rebelled?) was able to excercise free will in heaven? Why do we need to incarnate to have our "free will test" when Satan didn't need that? This is what you believe?
No, but I'm sure when you explain it to me, it'll all make sense.
Moslems and Jews hate each other because they both claim the abrahamic line. BUT what they really work hardest at (since they both actually do rule the world) is to bury and destroy the idea of rebirth and the wheel of life. They hate hindus and buddhists far more because the idea of god-nature in every human is abhorrent to them. Also I would say that Christ worship is repackaged Judaism anyway since his lineage is what made him the Messiah.... Or was it?
To me, Jesus was divine because the gospel was preserved and his parables are divine. It was Paul who actually took Jesus' words and built Christ worship into what Jesus DID NOT want, namely a church. Paul was the Tony Robbins of his day.
Originally posted by masterp
if you do not believe in Christianity then how come you believe that Satan exists?
Originally posted by MikePhil
Shane: what are your bases for claiming Jesus passage in England ? (just curious)