Wow. Amazing incident. Either its by an inventive story teller or it really happened.

So in very little time, they had men and equipment in a half abandoned train yard ready to repair and disassemble a wrecked train.

Then in little or no time they had everything gone.

I happen to work with a guy who used to work on the engines (the locomotive). They are diesel that turn generators which feed electricity to the motors on each wheel of the train. (just the main engine car, not each car thereafter). The diesel engines at the time of when he left the company were running around 6000 hp. (just to let you know)


They had time to set up a tent big enough to cover rail cars then tear it all down without any evidence. Then to carry away the wreckage with no one seeing anything.
Give me a break.

I again raise the bs flag.

One thing I've noticed on this site are the vague articles, no pictures, poor pictures, or people not wanting to give information. Almost everything I've read on here concerning ufo's could be easily typed in a word processor then copied and pasted

Show me a scan of the newspaper containing the article. Surely out of the 1000's printed, someone can provide that.

One more thing: All the evidence is gone except for a PUBLIC story from the men on the train. They couldn't make any phone calls but they can publish a story.
Even if they showed the train wreckage, I doubt less or more people would believe it. But at least there would be a picture. Seems like a lot of effort to cover it up then let them print a story in a newspaper.

B.S.



[edit on 1-6-2006 by mirager]

The report does state that the witness's silence was appreciated. I take that to mean not mandatory.

This alleged event happened over four years ago now. I imagine if this did happen the witness who made this report finally had the event bug him enough to discuss it regardless of any alleged national security issues.

UFO events that happen to non-believers who get some kind of alleged official response usually at first believe it. Some do begin to investigate the subject and come to conclusions other than what was told to them originally. So they speak out. This is what might have happened here.


A conspiracy so vast as to keep the entire population of the earth ignorant of continued extraterrestrial visitation would require an enormous cover-up mechanism to be in operation at all times in order to remove and confiscate as much evidence as possible as quickly as possible. Secret contingency groups would have to be on alert like fire fighters to jump on these cases with proper equipment.

This would all be perfectly plausible if extraterrestrial visitation was happening. IMO, this is exactly what is going on.

[edit on 1-6-2006 by heelstone]

It is sad that there are no picture's to co-oberate this story, but a whole heck of alot more believable than most of the ET/UFO stuff that you find on here as of lately.
As for them assembling tents and a detainment of the crew scenario, I will side with heelstone...
Great find!!!!
Thanx.....

Allred

Originally posted by mirager
So in very little time, they had men and equipment in a half abandoned train yard ready to repair and disassemble a wrecked train.

Then in little or no time they had everything gone.
........

They had time to set up a tent big enough to cover rail cars then tear it all down without any evidence. Then to carry away the wreckage with no one seeing anything.
Give me a break.
........

Show me a scan of the newspaper containing the article. Surely out of the 1000's printed, someone can provide that.

One more thing: All the evidence is gone except for a PUBLIC story from the men on the train. They couldn't make any phone calls but they can publish a story.
Even if they showed the train wreckage, I doubt less or more people would believe it. But at least there would be a picture. Seems like a lot of effort to cover it up then let them print a story in a newspaper.

Mirager, skepticism is healthy but it seems like you made a lot of assumptions without reading the report carefully.

Firstly, it's not a newspaper article but a report logged in a UFO research database. It doesn't seem like there is any intention to "publish" a story.

Secondly, the report doesn't state that the rail cars were repaired, dissasembled, or carried away - only that the witness assumed the damaged cars had been moved to another track and covered (a "tent" could be as simple as a bunch of tarps hung over the cars).

I'm not saying I believe the report, but I don't see any impossibilities in the actions or timeline.

Cool...

I grew up near Russell, its in Greenup County, right next to Boyd County where I lived. Been to Russell a lot in my time, small town, big rail yard there.

I've also been to Paintsville, another small town.

I'm going to look for some other reports of this from local news papers in those towns...

As soon as the writer switched to a first-person account, instead of a third-person account, the story lost a lot of confidence with me.

And I agree, something THAT large (16000 tons) doesn't just get disassembled and removed so quickly. Nor does the incident NOT find its way to the media is some form.

Overall, I think the guy who submitted the story to the UFO reporting center decided to send in a fake report. There's just too little supporting his claims to make it, in my mind, a valid story.

I didn't see the "switch" you claim. It reads first person the entire way. It also looks believable, no extra fluff like describing the night air or it struck us with the impact of a thunderbolt kinda stuff.

Either this event happened or this guy writes a good story. They could have struck a man made craft, who knows? One thing I notice is that even though it would seem like a far fetched story, it's not written that way. It's kinda no nonsense, hence my first para.

Originally posted by mirager
So in very little time, they had men and equipment in a half abandoned train yard ready to repair and disassemble a wrecked train.

Then in little or no time they had everything gone.

I happen to work with a guy who used to work on the engines (the locomotive). They are diesel that turn generators which feed electricity to the motors on each wheel of the train. (just the main engine car, not each car thereafter). The diesel engines at the time of when he left the company were running around 6000 hp. (just to let you know)


They had time to set up a tent big enough to cover rail cars then tear it all down without any evidence. Then to carry away the wreckage with no one seeing anything.
Give me a break.

I again raise the bs flag.

One thing I've noticed on this site are the vague articles, no pictures, poor pictures, or people not wanting to give information. Almost everything I've read on here concerning ufo's could be easily typed in a word processor then copied and pasted

Show me a scan of the newspaper containing the article. Surely out of the 1000's printed, someone can provide that.

One more thing: All the evidence is gone except for a PUBLIC story from the men on the train. They couldn't make any phone calls but they can publish a story.
Even if they showed the train wreckage, I doubt less or more people would believe it. But at least there would be a picture. Seems like a lot of effort to cover it up then let them print a story in a newspaper.

B.S.



[edit on 1-6-2006 by mirager]

I wonder if you ever read the entire post guys. What picture? Is a sighting report in National UFO Database Center for Christ sake. This poor guy took the liberty after 4 years to report what happend. Why bashing everybody and trying to kill every story without having the slightest idea of what happend? Gee, why do you even bother reading...

Nahhh RR's report about accidents doesn't mean anything. If it happend as this guy said then they have more then one reason to cover it up. The best thing to do is to have somebody who lives close to that place and could go and ask the people of the area if something happend in January the 14th, 2002.

This scenario is not impossible anyway you look at it.

Take Roswell. The story was broadcast for one single day, then covered up and forgotten. Since UFOs have been around a long time, our military cover-up machine has become more efficient. It is not out of the realm of possibility that since then, teams of military personnel specially trained for crash site retrievals/recoveries have been formed that can make a crashed ufo and the evidence disappear within hours. Its not totally impossible.

Nor is the lack of a report.

(Unless, of course, every one of the civilian employees of those civil agencies are in on a top-secret military conspiracy.)

They dont have to be. In the case of Roswell, civilian radio station staff and reporters were told to shut up or lose their liscences and jobs, those who were local. So local NTSB personnel could have been told to ignore it, or told to shut up. Its not totally impossible, especially in a small population area such as this.

Im not saying that I believe this story. I niether believe it nor disbelieve it. It is one single report, and until further information comes forth to either cooberate or disprove this story, I shall leave it in the realm of "who knows, but for now its not that important".

Originally posted by Telos
Nahhh RR's report about accidents doesn't mean anything. If it happend as this guy said then they have more then one reason to cover it up. The best thing to do is to have somebody who lives close to that place and could go and ask the people of the area if something happend in January the 14th, 2002.

If I were hiding a real event, I'd think it would make more sense if there were a report, placing the blame for the accident on falling rocks and/ or an obstruction over the tracks; then it becomes a case of "yeah, it happened, but it happened so fast the engineers didn't really know what they hit."

They had two and a half hours to get people to Paintsville from the time of the occurence until the train "limped" into the rail yard. Easily time to round up the troops so to take care of a possible situation. Likely the damaged rail cars and such were moved to other tracks and then taken to another facility by that same rail later that morning. Who knows where they were taken. Someone likely noticed something unusual with rail cars being covered or something as they passed through their towns. But with the story not reaching the news media, wouldn't we all just pass it off as probably nothing and forget about it entirely?

There is nothing in the statement about the cars being disassembled. They stated that they were 4 rails over under a huge tent like structure. "No disassembly required" they simply hauled them down the railroad track like every other train does. They didn't go back through Paintsville for at least 8 hours, so why would the wreckage from a possible UFO encounter still be sitting there, it wouldn't?

Whether this was a UFO incident or a made up story, the report to me doesn't leave an holes that would make it impossible to be true.

I cant believe an advanced alien ship capable of interstellar space gets hit by a locomotive..I mean COME ON! Thats something I'd expect from a hick in a truck to get hit on the tracks..not an alien..utter hogwash

I read about this maybe 2 years ago. There was a picture of a locomotive with a huge dent in the front up high. Im not sure why there isn't any mention of the photo. As far as its validity goes... WHO KNOWS! If it could be proved it would never get out.

AS-

Ok, since i live in Paintsville Ky and i really don't remenber the story about a UFO /train wreck but i do remeber but i don't remember when we had a train hit a bunch of rock and it tore up a train car but it wasn't a big story because around here there are a lot of rock falls so unless it actually crushes someone it doesn't get a vcery big story as for the train disappearing we always have banged up or distroyed train cars and engines at the rail yard so no one pays any attention so it wouldn't be a cover up if no one made a fuss about it at the time not if they had mentioned what had hit it then there would have been thousands of amatuer ufo and news hounds sniffing around especially sine back in the 70's we had weird lights in the sky over old baldy in Van Lear so we really like our weird stories and yes i really did see the lights and too this day i don't know what they were