i got the pendulem to have 29 score

just lissen to music and just hope this ant a trick


seriecly now,

when i was a kid i used to alot of wierd things.

Most often, it is *you* stopping yourself or it's the person watching you that stops you...

Yep, and one success is enough to break you out of that perception of "I can't".

Can't remember who's question now, but:

"No, I don't think it would increase exponentially with more free time. I think it would get better, but not exponentially... Progress has been slow and it requires patience I never even knew I had...." If I ever feel the need to "prove" anything to friends, etc. it's far easier to go turn off/on a few streetlights, than it is to expect them to sit and wait for an hour while a turn a toothpick 45 degrees..... I exercise it more because I believe that it's simply the next step in our evolution. Just as we developed the "sense" of intelligence, I believe this is simply a "sense" that we are on the verge of being able to utilize, but that will require time, and evolution. Kind of a "use it or lose it" mentality, and hopes for future generations having the ability but stronger...

Just remember, matter is inert unless acted on by a force. Thought may simply be another force, and if so, then there is no reason to think that it too cannot act upon matter...after all, the ability to move your arm begins as a thought to do so....

the thing that wonders me is "WHY"

can some people tell whats going to happen before it happens......

its like we are conneted to the univerce or somthing?

or is everything preplaned out? I understand how you could move stuff "seeming" with the "mind"

along time ago the KGP did test and found it to be gravity/magnetec minploation

and i can understand reading peoples minds. there is a VERY fant radeo waves that the mind can recive/respond too


but seeing/geussing/knowing the futer is what i dont understand and its the most commen phcic thing to happen to me....

reading peoples minds dosnt seam a big talent for me...
when i was young i could do almosy anything phcic but being teased and tormented made me stop for years

mOjOm
Nice find.

I'm off to practice.



[Edited on 23-10-2003 by AZLS1]

I hope you all realise now that anything and everything is possible.

When i'm older and i eventually have a kid (if) i will teach that kid as mucha si possibly can that anything and everything is possible no matter what anyone else thinks or says about it. Anything is possible. 'll teach my kid the power of the mind, lots of learning techniques, mind control techniques, everything i possibly can to let my kid's mind be ultimately free from restrictions and the laws of physics (there are no laws of physics when you consider that anything is possible).

If anything is possible, then nothing can restrict you.

The funny thing is...it's not about breaking the laws of physics... Quantum physicists are starting to figure it out.... Figure out what many ancient people have known for ages...that there is more to existence than just our five senses can tell us....

If anything is possible, then why have all the men who have attempted over the years to find physical immortality falied? Or take my desire to conjure up money and power through thought. I haven't done it yet though its constantly on my mind.

I guess you can say anything is possible... within reason.

Originally posted by heelstone
If anything is possible, then why have all the men who have attempted over the years to find physical immortality falied? Or take my desire to conjure up money and power through thought. I haven't done it yet though its constantly on my mind.

I guess you can say anything is possible... within reason.

Becuase they grew up in an environment full of doubt of their own abilities, people who mock others, others who have disbelief and dont believe anything is possible, people that only believe in the material and what they see, smell, touch, taste and hear. They can grow up and believe they can make money out of thin air, but truely deep down they dont believe it becaus it's gone into their sub-conscious mind that they can due to other poeple around them. If you can truelly TRUELLY believe in something without ANY doubt AT ALL, then ANYTHING is POSSIBLE.

One religious man...he prayed and prayed and meditated, Meditated so much that he had an awakening and he truelly believed he coukld od something. He truely believed he could die at any moment he wanted to, at will, just by wishing it to be, no poisens, no knives, guns, gases, etc.

He said to others i am going to die now.

He sat down and meditated in the yoga position. He then died, stopped breathing, no pulse, etc. Fully dead.

B4 he died he told them to dig him up like 15 years later.

15 years later they dug him up. He didn't decompose, he was still as he was te day he died except that the cells in his body had dropped down a bit due to gravity, just as windows are fatter at the bottom and thinner at the top after a long time after being made, due to gravity. That is all.

You believe what you want. I'll believe what i want.

"i dont believe it"

"That is why you fail"

That mans body being like that breaks the laws of physics, etc, not decomposing.. Ur laws of physics...Not my laws. to me there are no such laws.

If oyu truelly believe in something, then that something can/will happen/is.

Well, when kids with no concept of death die, it kind of puts a damper on that theory. You can't do everything and some things are impossible regardless of what another person thinks.

Your own example is of a guy that wanted to die through thought. Dying is one of the easiest things to do in this universe. If somebody can think of something hard to do and accomplish it through such a means, like physical immortality, then you've got something.

Originally posted by heelstone
If anything is possible, then why have all the men who have attempted over the years to find physical immortality falied? Or take my desire to conjure up money and power through thought. I haven't done it yet though its constantly on my mind.

I guess you can say anything is possible... within reason.

hmm... maybe it's not our time yet. or maybe we've been going about it all wrong, using the wrong tools, etc.

one thing is for sure though. you can't have whatever you want (for example by asking "i want this" from magical outside force) because there is no one but you who can give it to you. it's the reverse effect of the old HAVE->DO->BE paradigm. some think you HAVE to have money to DO happy things, to BE happy. if you reverse it around, you'll find that you'll have found a greater effect. BE->DO->HAVE: BE happy (choose it for yourself first), DO happy things (for others moslty) and you'll HAVE happiness.

going a little off topic again, but i always found that interesting. kinda picked it up from the who CWG trilogy.

Originally posted by Gazrok
...that there is more to existence than just our five senses can tell us....

What's really been screwed up for a loooong time is that the devices invented to extend our senses were limited to doing *only* that...Extend our own natural senses. For example, binoculars, (electron) microscopes, even IR/UV scopes were only extending the range of our own natural sense of sight...

It's only been relatively recently that experiments have been conducted to make some headway into Quantum theories & the fact that Science is now beginning to "looking for that which cannot be seen". That experiment recently performed that split a beam of light into two different paths & has shown that light can act as a wave AND a particle *at the same time*, for example.

Actually I performed telekinesis twice. One while meditating and I manage to move a little of water on a a very quiet beach (outside my country on an island) and the second after smoking lots of weed and on a very weird night (I manage to swing a candle flame for several minutes for my surprise!)

However I did try already others times without success.
I think our fear of failing and locking of uncounscious powers is what it forbidden us to do it, full extend.

At least on a scientific point of view there is a slit quantic theory already presented on this post.
I also tried the pendulum experience on fourmilab and for some times I had hints of a small degree telekinesis. Only when I was playing more "space-out", not so consciosly forcing it but rather knowing I was uncosnciously doing it!

I will not train it too much in the future. Lots of other things call more my attention. Even paranormal stuff such as OBEs, telephaty or lucid dreaming.
I think performing telekinesis on objects such as pencils requires lots of practice, probably lots of meditation and mind controlling of thought and emotions. And a heightned state of awareness where reality is view truly as it is: an illusion of our minds.
Maybe there is even a physical limit to what a human can do while performing telekinesis. (I would imagine lifting a pen or moving a book, not more than that)

Originally posted by deafence#
Bare with me here...

Step one: Pick up a pen/pencil.

Step two: Move it with your mind.

Why's everybody ranting about the impossibilty of those instructions. READ them again, then ask yourself what you do each time you write something!

I think its impossible by your own means. But with the help from a HigherDimensional source ie. God or demonic, it could be done. . . .maybe

Originally posted by StationsCreation
I think its impossible by your own means. But with the help from a HigherDimensional source ie. God or demonic, it could be done. . . .maybe

That may be the only problem. "Thinking it's impossible" that is. Perhaps if you KNEW it WAS POSSIBLE, it would be.

I have no doubt that it is certainly possible. However the practice or ability of one to use the technique is what I'm interested in figuring out.

Originally posted by SabbyJ

Originally posted by deafence#
Bare with me here...

Step one: Pick up a pen/pencil.

Step two: Move it with your mind.

Why's everybody ranting about the impossibilty of those instructions. READ them again, then ask yourself what you do each time you write something!

ok then, new steps!

Step One: Place a pencil in front of you.

Step Two: Now remotely move it, without touching it physically.

comprende?

i believe i've achieved telekinesis on a few occasions, but like gazrok, i've found it easier to stop an object in motion that to make an object move. One time I managed to roll a pencil about 6 inches across a flat desk, sitting on a level floor, without touching or breathing on it. That is probably the best I've done, telekinetically. As for God or Demon helping me with it, I didn't sense another presence in the room with me, outside of the person who watched me do it.

*edit* P.S.--I wasn't under the influence of any drugs at the time, so it wasn't hallucination either.

Originally posted by Zzub
The fact that it can't be done. 8 billion people on the planet and there's no documented evidence which stands up to testing.

That's what's stopping me.

this is just too funny. maybe in a couple of years you might get a clue.

I agree with some here.

Beliefs are the second most powerful things that exist. The most powerful thing is you. But we let ourselves get overpowered by our beliefs. Especially our core beliefs. Beliefs determine everything that happens around you and everything you do.

Beliefs determine whether you can do telekenesis or not. Whether you are wealthy or not. Everything. If you want to do tk, just change your beliefs.

But beliefs are still nothing more than thoughts you have repeatedly and continuously. Stop the thought permantently and you break the belief. But that's the single most difficult thing to do in the history of mankind (especially in the western world).

Practise is one way of changing a belief.

im trying to do the proposed task, guess what....it's not working(surprised?), i simply dont think there's any possible way to do this unless:
the pencil is acted upon by an outer force
if all the air moved towards four corners in the room at the speed of sound, the pencil would float up in the air