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posted on Oct, 21 2003 @ 02:59 PM
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Originally posted by Colonel
Quick steal off the interenet.



Originally posted by Colonel
I'm here backing you like a moron and you're doing a copy-n-paste? One thing you cannot do is adopt the tactics of the repugnant, like stealing. You need to denote where you got the article from after you post it. I fogive you because I know you didn't mean to do wrong.






posted on Oct, 21 2003 @ 03:05 PM
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Now, you know that's not fair. I had no time to do it myself and I admitted that I took it off the net.



posted on Oct, 21 2003 @ 03:07 PM
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(lighten up, Colonel)



posted on Oct, 21 2003 @ 03:11 PM
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I'M LIGHT, DAMMIT!





posted on Oct, 21 2003 @ 03:16 PM
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ok, just checkin'



posted on Oct, 21 2003 @ 03:36 PM
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Originally posted by Bob88
colonel, tell them about how we eat babies!


I fully expect them to be on the menu at every suburban eatery, as soon as there's a tax cut incentive applied to it!


Now Bob knows better y'all, but if you is a newbie, look up my old posts on the economics of what Uncle Bill did to grow the economy & pay off the debt, why taxes had to be put back in place to stop the Byotch at the Mall credit spending frenzy of the previous 12 years, and what SlingBlade W. Bush, Poppy Satan, and the Alzheimers Kid collectively have done to bring that thatr OLGARCHY cum FASCIST STATE to the American experiment.

"Sudan wanted to hand over Bin Laden" - type this into the search boys & girls.....Republicans try the repeat-until-it's-taken-as-truth every chance they get, even when it's been thoroughly proven to be false!



posted on Oct, 21 2003 @ 03:44 PM
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Originally posted by Bout Time

Originally posted by Bob88
colonel, tell them about how we eat babies!


I fully expect them to be on the menu at every suburban eatery, as soon as there's a tax cut incentive applied to it!


Now Bob knows better y'all, but if you is a newbie, look up my old posts on the economics of what Uncle Bill did to grow the economy & pay off the debt, why taxes had to be put back in place to stop the Byotch at the Mall credit spending frenzy of the previous 12 years, and what SlingBlade W. Bush, Poppy Satan, and the Alzheimers Kid collectively have done to bring that thatr OLGARCHY cum FASCIST STATE to the American experiment.

"Sudan wanted to hand over Bin Laden" - type this into the search boys & girls.....Republicans try the repeat-until-it's-taken-as-truth every chance they get, even when it's been thoroughly proven to be false!


Thanks, G



posted on Oct, 21 2003 @ 03:48 PM
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BT - there's ample evidence that Sudan had wanted to give up Bin Laden. Can you show me the opposite.



posted on Oct, 21 2003 @ 05:38 PM
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...again?
What, are you in IT or something?


The only folks you can say ever "backed out" in relation to Osama, were the Taliban in 1998.
Sudan nor the Clintons were the deal breakers - the Saudis were.



posted on Oct, 21 2003 @ 06:21 PM
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um. who is the superpower here, BT. The US or the Saudis?


am I in IT, that was good,



posted on Oct, 22 2003 @ 07:13 AM
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...Mr.Clintons administration was the last time adults were in charge!

Chronilogical for you so you never pop that yang again:

- 1996 = Sudan and the Saudis brought to table by Clinton to arrest in Muslim Sudan & turn over to home country Saudi Arabia. 4 months of negotiations left to dust upon the repeated refusal of the House of Saud.
Go Figure!!

- 1997 = Clinton sponsored legislation to freeze the financial assets of international organizations suspected of funneling money to bin Laden’s Al Qaeda network -- identical to orders given by SlingBlade Bush after the shiit hit the fan -- but it was killed, on behalf of big banks, by Republican Senator Phil Gramm of Texas.


- 1998 = Now in Afganistan, Clinton gives blank check/green light to CIA for by any means necessary, short of US assasination. 60 man Pakistani commando squad trained by CIA to infiltrate Afgan cells & do the do. But, TADA! Military overthrow of Muslim dictator in Pakistan from secular Muslim gov. puts a kabash on the hit squad.

- 1998 = Clinton also signed a secret agreement with Uzbekistan to begin joint covert operations against Osama bin Laden and Afghanistan’s Taliban regime. U.S. Special Forces have been training there ever since, which is why the Pentagon was immediately able to use Uzbekistan as a staging area for forays into Afghanistan.

And the rabid Reich Wings favorite fairy tale: Clinton’s most public response, the cruise missile attacks of 1998, directed against Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan and the Sudan, following the terrorist bombings of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania.
Operating on limited intelligence -- at that time, Pakistan, Uzbekistan and Tazikistan refused to share information on the terrorists whereabouts inside Afghanistan -- U. S. strikes missed bin Laden by only a couple of hours.
Even so, Clinton was accused of only firing missiles in order to divert media attention from the Lewinsky hearings. A longer campaign would have stirred up even more criticism.

Was it the right thing? Of Course. Did it offer collateral benefit of trying to refocus Cock-Sniffer General Starr's rapid decent of the American family nightly news into literal blow-by-blow accounting of what every other president has done - just never having Fascists in control of the media & opposition party before? Not as much as he would have liked, but he was much less of a media-mind-fuk-leader than this dress up in cowboy-pilot-common-man-at-the-BBQ-polls-make-me-woody Son O' the Debil.

Now...Betta Req-Co-Nize!

Definitions:

1.Pop that yang - to talk out of ones arse.

2.SlingBlade Bush - semi retarded ner-do-well unable to control embarrassing facial expressions in public.

3. GOP Sen.Phil Gramm - Criminal married to a criminal and the embodiment of Mussolini's Fascist model practioner of centralized banking controlling all.

4. Betta Req-Co-Nize - Move forward operating with clarity because there's been clear definition absent all ambiguity.



posted on Oct, 22 2003 @ 07:26 AM
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Originally posted by Koka
Bob88, are you what they call a redneck in the states??



AAAAAHAHAHAHAH!!!! LMFAO!!!!


*wipes tears from eyes*

Thats the funniest thing Ive heard all week!



posted on Oct, 22 2003 @ 07:35 AM
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Originally posted by Bout Time
...Mr.Clintons administration was the last time adults were in charge!

Chronilogical for you so you never pop that yang again:

- 1996 = Sudan and the Saudis brought to table by Clinton to arrest in Muslim Sudan & turn over to home country Saudi Arabia. 4 months of negotiations left to dust upon the repeated refusal of the House of Saud.
Go Figure!!

- 1997 = Clinton sponsored legislation to freeze the financial assets of international organizations suspected of funneling money to bin Laden’s Al Qaeda network -- identical to orders given by SlingBlade Bush after the shiit hit the fan -- but it was killed, on behalf of big banks, by Republican Senator Phil Gramm of Texas.


- 1998 = Now in Afganistan, Clinton gives blank check/green light to CIA for by any means necessary, short of US assasination. 60 man Pakistani commando squad trained by CIA to infiltrate Afgan cells & do the do. But, TADA! Military overthrow of Muslim dictator in Pakistan from secular Muslim gov. puts a kabash on the hit squad.

- 1998 = Clinton also signed a secret agreement with Uzbekistan to begin joint covert operations against Osama bin Laden and Afghanistan’s Taliban regime. U.S. Special Forces have been training there ever since, which is why the Pentagon was immediately able to use Uzbekistan as a staging area for forays into Afghanistan.

And the rabid Reich Wings favorite fairy tale: Clinton’s most public response, the cruise missile attacks of 1998, directed against Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan and the Sudan, following the terrorist bombings of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania.
Operating on limited intelligence -- at that time, Pakistan, Uzbekistan and Tazikistan refused to share information on the terrorists whereabouts inside Afghanistan -- U. S. strikes missed bin Laden by only a couple of hours.
Even so, Clinton was accused of only firing missiles in order to divert media attention from the Lewinsky hearings. A longer campaign would have stirred up even more criticism.

Was it the right thing? Of Course. Did it offer collateral benefit of trying to refocus Cock-Sniffer General Starr's rapid decent of the American family nightly news into literal blow-by-blow accounting of what every other president has done - just never having Fascists in control of the media & opposition party before? Not as much as he would have liked, but he was much less of a media-mind-fuk-leader than this dress up in cowboy-pilot-common-man-at-the-BBQ-polls-make-me-woody Son O' the Debil.

Now...Betta Req-Co-Nize!

Definitions:

1.Pop that yang - to talk out of ones arse.

2.SlingBlade Bush - semi retarded ner-do-well unable to control embarrassing facial expressions in public.

3. GOP Sen.Phil Gramm - Criminal married to a criminal and the embodiment of Mussolini's Fascist model practioner of centralized banking controlling all.

4. Betta Req-Co-Nize - Move forward operating with clarity because there's been clear definition absent all ambiguity.



Now ladies and gentlemen what you see above is a perfect example of one member laying a complete and total a$$ wupping to another member in this argument. Great post BT!



posted on Oct, 22 2003 @ 08:43 AM
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BT, are in IT pimping, or something?


Again - what do the Sauds have to do w/ it ? It's a poor excuse for not taking Sudan up on their what, 4th ubl offer? And lobbing a few cruise missiles into an aspirin factory and in the the middle of Afghanistan, that was some show of force. Which, was never followed up w/ anything. one small strike? please.



posted on Oct, 22 2003 @ 10:11 AM
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IT pimping? That hurt, ...it was funny, but it hurt!


I have been thinking of how to write that up in my newly delivered blog - my 'soul hurts' - over breaking my peers down the way I have to in order to make my bones. It's not the same anymore -we're craftsmen in a Depression-era-soup-line format. I swear I'm ready to become a fishing guide down in the Keys or something.

Aspirin Factory!?! Jackals & Hyenas, from Starr to Gingrich to Burton, all howling over that, and he still missed him by scant hours.
Contrast that with total support, total cooperation, and 100's of thousands troops on the ground - Clinton got just as close to OBL with far less.



posted on Oct, 22 2003 @ 11:34 AM
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didn't mean to hurt your feelings, pimp.


Clinton's shortcomings in regards to fighting terror were proven on 9/11, imho. But I'm mindful prior to that day Bush wasn't on the ball either. (there, happy?
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Fishing guide down in the keys? thanks. my productivity will be shot henceforth today while I now day dream.



posted on Oct, 22 2003 @ 06:00 PM
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Originally posted by Nerdling
"I am a Republican."

I am pro-life, as long as it's in the womb. I could care less about it the second it's out of the womb, which is also why I'm pro-death penalty, and anti-welfare. It doesn't matter to me that women of affluence will still be able to obtain abortions in other countries - whether they believe in it or not. It doesn't matter to me that both child and mother are endangered, the second Roe V. Wade is overturned, by unscrupulous "doctors". I believe in an ideal world, and people shouldn't be having sex. Especially if they can't deal with the consequences.

I support the Second Amendment. I don't care if we have already had a number of well-regulated militias. Guns don't kill people; people kill people. And often they use guns to do this. I don't want the government to tell me what type of weapon I can have. I need armor-piercing rounds in the event that I need to defend myself against some of those pesky armor-wearing law enforcement types. I should be able to buy a Howitzer if I can afford one. I don't want the government to check my background - they might find something that would prevent me from owning a gun.

I believe in the War on Drugs. I think a silly slogan - "Just say no" - goes a long way in preventing kids from using drugs. It doesn't matter to me that the War makes the drugs thousands of times more profitable, and provides that much more incentive to dealers and gangs. I forgot that during the 1920's, during Prohibition, there were Gangs and drive-bys and underground "labs" and corrupt police and officials. Forget rehabilitation; you reap what you sow. As I said before, I am an idealist.

I am pro-welfare. As long as it goes to Corporations that don't need it. If it goes to lazy individuals who got laid off, then I'm against it. There are too many people taking advantage of the system. No, not in the Corporations, I mean the welfare people. I don't care if you are lazy and rich. I only care if you are lazy and poor. I don't care if the crime rate will go up if people do not have options. I have a gun. Until they steal it from me because I so responsibly leave it out for burglars. I am a thoughtful person, at heart.

I believe that freedom of religion is one of the things that make this country great. That is why I believe it should be crammed down everyone's throats all the time. I believe it is my duty to save your soul. Even if this interferes with your religious freedom. While I care so much for your soul - I could care less about any other part of you. I don't want my tax dollars going to help the disadvantaged, but I don’t mind if they are used in public institutions to help "educate" the masses. I don't care if Jesus wanted to help the poor and the meek. I only look at the parts of the Bible that benefit me personally.

I don't care about the environment. I will disregard the scientific evidence, because it is only a "theory." Besides, I will be dead before the consequences affect me. My children are good Republicans, survival of the fittest, you know. Even though I don't believe in evolution, I believe they will adapt. It doesn't matter to me that the only reason not to regulate companies involved in environmental abuse is only a matter of their bottom line.

I believe that tax cuts – especially for the most wealthy - will stimulate the economy. I believe that assisting corporations and wealthy individuals is good for job growth. It doesn't matter that if the profit projections are low, or the shareholders are unhappy, that layoffs will occur. It doesn't bother me that CEO's will cut jobs before they cut their salary. They earned it. Even though the performance wasn't there. It doesn't bother me that you can have your pay reduced, or can be fired if you are not performing, but they can’t. I don't believe that the wealthy typically accumulate wealth through continuous investment, and rarely spend the way the middle class does. This holding of assets creates jobs and is good for the economy, right? The wealth disparity in this country doesn't bother me. We all have the same opportunities, right?

I am tired of immigrants coming to this country and taking our jobs. I know a lot of hard- working American lettuce pickers. It doesn't bother me that our corporations are shipping our jobs to other countries for cheaper labor and to avoid labor regulations. I'm tired of paying taxes, which is why I can sympathize with immigrant workers who must stay undocumented. They don't have to pay taxes! I can also sympathize with corporations who profit in this country but operate assets offshore to avoid paying taxes.

I'm tired of minorities whining. They have the same opportunities as every one else. I don't want more educated minorities to have more opportunities. I don't care if they underwent, or still undergo a variety of racial prejudices and injustices. That was in the past; get over it.

I don't want to hear anymore pinko-socialist garbage. It doesn't matter to me that the military is provided to me by the contributions of all taxpayers, and defends me as it defends all. I don't care if the Interstate Highway System was built in this manner as well. Or law enforcement. Or any other number of public institutions. I could care less about Social Security, even if I neglect to realize that it will be there for me whether I need it or not. Hopefully.

I believe in a strong military. I believe in our right to pre-emptively defend ourselves, even if that is an oxymoron. Except when the country proves to be a real threat, like North Korea. I believe that this military should be composed exclusively of volunteer minorities and rural poor whites. I believe dying for oil is a noble cause for our brave minority and poor soldiers. I don’t care if our leaders were able to obtain deferments in past wars, and children of affluence will be able to do the same for the next war. Clinton was a draft- dodger and wagged the dog in Iraq. President Bush served in the Air National Guard heroically protecting the bars of Abilene, Texas. Nor can it be proved that he went AWOL, even though he wasn't there his last year. And he is not wagging the dog in regards to the Iraq situation for political or financial profit for his associates in the energy industry. Or the defense industry. Speaking of which, I do not care if a missile shield has proven unreliable. We need it to defend ourselves against terrorists, whether it works or not.

I believe that our moral decay, and almost all of today's problems, can be traced back to one man - Bill Clinton. It doesn't matter to me that he was elected: twice. It doesn't matter to me that 50% of our nation's marriages end up in divorce, a high percentage due to infidelity. It doesn't matter that almost all politicians lie to various degrees. They shouldn't be lying about their personal lives. Keep the lying in the realm of policy and issues, thank you very much. I will credit the Republican Congress and former Republican Presidents for various achievements when it is convenient. The Democrats hold the blame for everything. Especially Clinton.

I am a Republican, and have forgotten what it means to be an American.








Have a nice day!



posted on Oct, 22 2003 @ 07:16 PM
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Originally posted by Bob88
How so? What steps did Clinton take? What policies did he enact? Why do you say that Colonel? Are you giving him credit because he was simply in office during that time? I want to know WHAT Clinton did?


Funny how you skip over what Bush has done. You ignore the fact that the Shrub(sorry MidnightDStroyer I had to use this) has done next to nothing for the US, besides ban partial-birth abortion and increase the FBI's DNA databank. And please don't tell me that Iraq was a threat, and that airport security is the best it has ever been, because this is what, in the old country, we called BULL #.

Now, for more general statements...

Excellent topic, Nerdling. You may have copy/pasted it, but it brought out the ideals of the democratic party. We do fight for those who cannot fend for themselves. As long as they're in this country.


Other than that... you people are fools.

Arguing over Bush and Clinton... ay carumba. HAS IT EVER OCCURED TO ANY OF YOU THAT NEITHER IS A SHINING EXAMPLE OF THEIR PARTIES' IDEALS? Clinton was a friggen infidel and Bush is a moron. HELLO, DO YOU REALLY WANT TO DEFEND THESE PEOPLE JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE IN YOUR POLITICAL PARTY? Oi.

Quite frankly, you need to go back quite far in American history to see people who really represent what the republican and democratic parties represent. Let use... Lincoln and FDR.

Lincoln was faced with people who wanted to break away from his country. HIS country. There probably were many in the north who opposed military action on the Confederate bastards. And what did Lincoln do? He was not afraid to use military action against rebels whose hearts were in the wrong place. He defeated them, and he died in the name of the American Dream.

FDR lived in a time of civil unrest. A depression much worse than that which Bush has gotten use into. He used many things that republicans were skeptical would work. He created the New Deal and provided millions of jobs. He got America back on its feet. Then, he fought the Nazis and Italy and japan. He avenged those lost at Pearl Harbor with victory after victory in both Europe and the Pacific. Because of him, the real example of a repugnant, Hitler, was defeated. Because of him, Imperial Japan suffered its first loss against another country in many years.

Wouldn't you rather have these two men as the representatives of your party? Or do you still want to be snivelling fools who argue over two of the worse-off Presidents in history.

Its up to you. If you choose Bush and not Lincoln, you are a fool who should not be a republican. If you choose Clinton and not FDR, you are a fool not worthy of the title "democrat."

It's all up to you.

Signing off,
HLW

[Edited on 10/22/03 by High_Lord_Warrior]



posted on Oct, 23 2003 @ 03:46 AM
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Originally posted by Colonel
Clinton gave thsis country the longest period of prosperity this country has ever seen. What has Bush done?


clinton also show you the best sex and how to lie to God and your people. didnt he?



posted on Oct, 23 2003 @ 06:42 AM
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I've never placed Clinton as "a Shining Example of the Democratic Party"

Why would I? I'm not a Democrat. I am anti-Republican, as of the last year or so, however.

My point has always been to never let the DWARF appear taller by cutting the legs from under Clinton. If there was ever anything of Merit to be said for Bush, it would have been done stark; standing alone on it's own merit without a smack back towards Clinton, as if he's worse in comparison.

Other than that, screw'em all, let God sort'em out.





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