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We are ready to hit American bases in Iraq:Manouchehr Mottaki

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posted on May, 26 2006 @ 02:28 PM
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This is speculation if Irans atomic sites were hit, ballistic missiles and cruise missiles will be used to hit american supply lines and bases than we will order shia majority Iraq to step up attacks, advanced MANPADS, IEDS and fire arms will be supplyed to the people of Iraq while at the same time the straight of hormuz will be closed and we will target US carriers/navy ships with anti ship missiles.



Iran would hit back against any US attack, Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki said during a visit to Baghdad on Friday.

"In the event that Americans attack Iran anywhere, Iran will respond with an attack in that place," he told a joint news conference with Iraq's speaker of parliament, Mahmoud al-Mashhadani.

Mr Mottaki's remarks were translated into Arabic.

But he suggested he did not believe the United States would attack Iran, saying: "We don't see that America is in a position where it would create a new crisis for the American tax payer."

The United States and Iran are fiercely at odds over Western accusations that Iran's nuclear power program is a cover for making weapons.

Iran denies the accusations and says it has a right to a peaceful nuclear program.

www.abc.net.au...



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posted on May, 26 2006 @ 02:40 PM
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Though the Iranian response to a pre-emptive strike on their nuclear facilities is about as easy to predict as Saturday coming after Friday, it seems dumb to me that they would completely tip their hand with respect to their war strategy. I say war strategy because striking out at nearby forces, attacking US Naval vessels, and attempting to close the Strait of Hormuz are acts of war. Don't get me wrong, a pre-emptive strike is also an act of war, but the US, or any other power in the world doesn't give a play-by-play accounting of their military strategy to anyone. Either it ain't gonna happen the way Iran is threatening or the plans they have foretold are not exactly those going into play.

If you want to lose a war, tell your opponent of your plans and he will plan to ruin them. If you want to win a war, fool your opponent about your plans and punish him for attempting to counter them.



posted on May, 26 2006 @ 02:42 PM
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Originally posted by chaosrain
Though the Iranian response to a pre-emptive strike on their nuclear facilities is about as easy to predict as Saturday coming after Friday, it seems dumb to me that they would completely tip their hand with respect to their war strategy. I say war strategy because striking out at nearby forces, attacking US Naval vessels, and attempting to close the Strait of Hormuz are acts of war. Don't get me wrong, a pre-emptive strike is also an act of war, but the US, or any other power in the world doesn't give a play-by-play accounting of their military strategy to anyone. Either it ain't gonna happen the way Iran is threatening or the plans they have foretold are not exactly those going into play.

If you want to lose a war, tell your opponent of your plans and he will plan to ruin them. If you want to win a war, fool your opponent about your plans and punish him for attempting to counter them.


thats what I don't get, US has the right to do whatever it wants even nuking a country and going to war with them for no reason but a country like Iran which hasn't started any wars for the past 500 years is not even allowed to strike back?, give me a break man.



posted on May, 26 2006 @ 02:45 PM
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Apparently, your cognitive abilities are flawed. At no point did I say that the US was within their rights to make a pre-emptive strike. In fact, I made a point of identifying the fact that it would, indeed, be an act of WAR.

My post was about the fact that it is assinine to tell your enemy any specifics regarding a planned response to an act of war.

I should have known better than to add my two cents to a Mehran post. If you're not flaming, you're not happy.



posted on May, 26 2006 @ 02:47 PM
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Thanx Mehran, I'm sure when the shootin' starts we'll hear it here first. Perhaps from you. Any new pics dude? Anyway thanx,

Victor K.



posted on May, 26 2006 @ 02:54 PM
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Originally posted by V Kaminski
Thanx Mehran, I'm sure when the shootin' starts we'll hear it here first. Perhaps from you. Any new pics dude? Anyway thanx,

Victor K.


lol trust me I don't even want their to be any shooting between our two countries. By the way Iran produces the second largest inventory of RGP's and MANPADS in the world. We will give the iraqi people advanced firearms to use. Remember all this is just a small portion expect them to get new landmines and ATGM's












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posted on May, 26 2006 @ 11:41 PM
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Have you ever seen such evil?

The Iranians say if we attack them, they'll fight back. How DARE they! They'll fight back if we attack them, the nerve! We DEFINITELY have to take action now!




posted on May, 27 2006 @ 01:14 AM
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I think Irans military capabilities are being underestimated..whats a manpad?
and don't say its a male maxipad



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posted on May, 27 2006 @ 01:18 AM
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The media /news etc lies about who is winning the war in iraq.

The real truth is the iraqis resistance are powningthe u.s. military they u.s. are loosing and are getting burned.

I saw a footage on the interent of a b-52 plane blowing up in flames with 10 iraqi stingers fired liek a giant fireball.

The u.s. are loosing and getting pwned very hard.And lots of casuialties.



posted on May, 27 2006 @ 01:28 AM
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Where do you get these pictures mehran? they are rather good.....

I really dont want to see another war either and I think attacking any other countries in the area is just going to further alienate an area of the world we need to try to convince we can be friends on some kind of terms.

Im almost afraid of an unauthorised skirmish might kick off a war. two well armed militaries so close together is never a good idea.



posted on May, 27 2006 @ 01:30 AM
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Originally posted by Hawaii_boy
The media /news etc lies about who is winning the war in iraq.

The real truth is the iraqis resistance are powningthe u.s. military they u.s. are loosing and are getting burned.

I saw a footage on the interent of a b-52 plane blowing up in flames with 10 iraqi stingers fired liek a giant fireball.

The u.s. are loosing and getting pwned very hard.And lots of casuialties.


Im not aware of B-52's operating in Iraq, and if they are I havent heard of losing any, the USAF doesnt send those birds in unless they are confident they wont be hit....they arent cheap lol.

and as for the casualties....there were single battles in vietnam with more american casulaties then the entire iraqi war.

I think your the one being fed lies.

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posted on May, 27 2006 @ 11:32 AM
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Umm, XPhiles...

That just makes Vietnam look worse. After all, it was ADMITTEDLY fought behind BS (Gulf of Tonkin NEVER happened). And now, the controversy surrounding Iraq...boy, history sure does repeat itself.:shk:



posted on May, 27 2006 @ 12:09 PM
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Originally posted by truthseeka
Umm, XPhiles...

That just makes Vietnam look worse. After all, it was ADMITTEDLY fought behind BS (Gulf of Tonkin NEVER happened). And now, the controversy surrounding Iraq...boy, history sure does repeat itself.:shk:


Well, vietnam was very bad...Iknow friends who are diabled for the rest of their lives because of grenades, etc.



posted on May, 27 2006 @ 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by XphilesPhan

Originally posted by truthseeka
Umm, XPhiles...

That just makes Vietnam look worse. After all, it was ADMITTEDLY fought behind BS (Gulf of Tonkin NEVER happened). And now, the controversy surrounding Iraq...boy, history sure does repeat itself.:shk:


Well, vietnam was very bad...Iknow friends who are diabled for the rest of their lives because of grenades, etc.


Yeah.

I have a friend whose dad was a Vietnam vet. He got sprayed with Agent Orange. Doesn't matter now, though...his ex-girlfriend killed him.



posted on May, 27 2006 @ 04:44 PM
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Originally posted by Hawaii_boy
The media /news etc lies about who is winning the war in iraq.

The real truth is the iraqis resistance are powningthe u.s. military they u.s. are loosing and are getting burned.

I saw a footage on the interent of a b-52 plane blowing up in flames with 10 iraqi stingers fired liek a giant fireball.

The u.s. are loosing and getting pwned very hard.And lots of casuialties.


Were is the link to the B-52. I don't even think they are using them there.
O r is this B52 story just another phony one. Do you think that America would be having this problem if they didn't care about the civilians.

Iran dosen't stand a chance against America.

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posted on May, 27 2006 @ 07:45 PM
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Stinger can't reach the B-52's operating altitude. And I doubt B-52's have been used since the initial combat phase, they're not exactly well-suited to CAS missions.

I agree however that Iran will be a whole different kettle of fish than Iraq, and I have little doubt that if we attempt an airstrike campaign against Iran, they will retaliate against US forces in Iraq.



posted on May, 28 2006 @ 02:52 AM
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Specifically what 'battle' in Vietnam are you refering to? Iraq is about 2600 when you include the contractors, + 230 other coalition nationalities..

In what single Vietnam battle did America lose 2600? The tet offensive was a total of about 1200, or 1200 killed in the 2 or so weeks of tet offensive..which includes the ones killed at Khe Sahn during that period, the NVA seige of Khe Sahn lasted 77 days; I don't know of any single battle in vietnam which involved losses of 2500+ Americans..at anyrate America lost that war so what difference does it make.

>and as for the casualties....there were single battles in vietnam with more >american casulaties then the entire iraqi war.



posted on May, 28 2006 @ 03:01 AM
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And 2600 is the GOVERNMENT numbers. Do you really believe them?? As a conspiracy forum, I don't think a lot of people do believe those numbers. Many wounded die from their injuries and their are not counted as deads. And all the mercenaries that die are not counted. When will we know the real numbers?? If we would really know, the government would fall, so that's why we don't know the real numbers.

I suspect it's above 5000. Some iraquis were talking about 25 000 but I think it's too much. Maybe the worst number I would give would be around 10 000 but not 25 000.

How many soldiers + mercenaries do you think we have lost in Iraq??

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posted on May, 28 2006 @ 03:30 AM
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IMO Iran need's new war strategists, to think the US (if it committed itself to an attack) would leave Iran's retaliatory options and weaponry untouched, among other things, is simply absurd and hilarious. But don't let me try to spread disinformation, continue with a most informing thread.



posted on May, 28 2006 @ 11:21 AM
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I think the idea that the US is somehow simultaneously going to take out all of those retaliatory options, without going nuclear, speaks to gross overconfidence. Saddam kept launching SCUDs well into the first Gulf War, and Iran in 2006 is much better equipped than Iraq in 1991.

While I have no doubts that the US military is more than a match for Iran's, on the other hand I think the Iranians are easily capable enough to make it a very expensive "victory" for us.

[edit on 5/28/06 by xmotex]



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